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Post by axegas on Mar 24, 2021 15:56:06 GMT
DC parted ways after making similar comments, Tisdale left immediately after questioning the ability of his forward line, which was a bit of a dig at the board for failing to secure him a striker. If we go down and Barton gets convicted in court, wouldn’t be surprised at all if the club and Barton mutually part ways. The board don’t like receiving criticism or answering it on BBC Radio Bristol for that matter. I think he will stay if we are relegated which would be ok but if the court case goes against him we will have no choice but to get rid but this is Rovers after all so who knows? I don’t know the rules on whether we could still employ someone who’s been convicted of assault and is doing community service with a tag (I don’t think he’ll go to prison). I just think it will be a mixture of us being relegated, the court case, the fact his kids live the other the end of the country and that the board don’t take well to scathing criticism which will see him gone if it comes to it. Could be wrong though, we’ll have to see.
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Post by Blackbeard on Mar 24, 2021 15:56:15 GMT
surely if he's talking about windows and a period of time he means the cancer is in the playing staff ?
there is no allusion to board or backroom in that tweet which I do appreciate may not be all he said
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Post by henry on Mar 24, 2021 15:58:04 GMT
surely if he's talking about windows and a period of time he means the cancer is in the playing staff ? there is no allusion to board or backroom in that tweet which I do appreciate may not be all he said Apparently he said ‘throughout ‘ the club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 15:59:29 GMT
Is it a cancer running through the club or just on the playing side? That’s a bit contradictory to say the least and he’s getting more desperate with his damning of the club every game, right or wrong. How is he getting away with saying something as crude as that when a diplomatic ‘we have nothing in the box’ is the beginning of the end for Tisdale? It tells me everything about the Rovers and what they have become. Tisdale had chance to rectify it in Jan, does very little transfer business, then moans about it. Barton hasn't had that luxury yet but will probably be a different story if he is saying the same things come Nov/Dec I think the scenario was that he wasn't able to do anything about it and that is why he pointed the finger at Widdrington the night before he was sacked.
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Post by Bourne End Gas on Mar 24, 2021 16:04:24 GMT
Or is that an easy way to deflect the blame from yourself? Just a question,and no I don't know the answer sadly. Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart !
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 24, 2021 16:15:03 GMT
Or is that an easy way to deflect the blame from yourself? Just a question,and no I don't know the answer sadly. Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart ! I agree! Not the calming, inspiring stuff you expect of someone looking to steady the ship! I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him walk, he will know his career will be on hold trying to sort this mess out and he strikes me as someone who thinks he can manage at a much higher level. Keeps insulting and blaming everyone and it may not be too long before he’s back oop north looking for a better challenge!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 24, 2021 16:25:44 GMT
Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart ! I agree! Not the calming, inspiring stuff you expect of someone looking to steady the ship! I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him walk, he will know his career will be on hold trying to sort this mess out and he strikes me as someone who thinks he can manage at a much higher level. Keeps insulting and blaming everyone and it may not be too long before he’s back oop north looking for a better challenge! Was Ben F Garner an inspiring leader? Was Paul Tisdale? Did they get great results with their calm and inspiring ways? What about the last great successful manager we had who inherited a shambles and called it out? Was he calm? Was he inspirational? Did he undo the mess of those that he had inherited from? Did he take us down before he took us up? Was he more similar to JB or Ben F Garner?
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Post by Blackbeard on Mar 24, 2021 16:30:35 GMT
Or is that an easy way to deflect the blame from yourself? Just a question,and no I don't know the answer sadly. Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart ! agree its not tearing up the football world however its more than any of the recent previous managers have on their CV - for League 1
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 24, 2021 16:33:16 GMT
Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart ! I agree! Not the calming, inspiring stuff you expect of someone looking to steady the ship! I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him walk, he will know his career will be on hold trying to sort this mess out and he strikes me as someone who thinks he can manage at a much higher level. Keeps insulting and blaming everyone and it may not be too long before he’s back oop north looking for a better challenge! agree. It all depends on which div we start next season in. If it is in div 2 then would be surprised to find him still here when he may have a choice of a few clubs in the div closer to home.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 24, 2021 16:40:36 GMT
I agree! Not the calming, inspiring stuff you expect of someone looking to steady the ship! I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him walk, he will know his career will be on hold trying to sort this mess out and he strikes me as someone who thinks he can manage at a much higher level. Keeps insulting and blaming everyone and it may not be too long before he’s back oop north looking for a better challenge! agree. It all depends on which div we start next season in. If it is in div 2 then would be surprised to find him still here when he may have a choice of a few clubs in the div closer to home. Or he's already accepted were going down and what he is doing publicly is clearing the path and managing expectations amongst the players and fans for a big clear out. If we go down then I think he will stay he's got a massive ego and turning this around will be huge kudos for him and he would have known the risk when he freely signed a 2.5 year contracto, plus doesn't look good on you CV that you jumped ship at the first opportunity. I hope he stays as he has the balls and personality to do what is required,we have a soft underbelly and if he doesn't stay i fear for our future.
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Post by Bourne End Gas on Mar 24, 2021 16:42:18 GMT
Sounds to me that The Scouse Jolly Boys Outing are looking to get booted ! Barton thinks he is better at managing than he actually is ! Leading Fleetwood ( which he compares us to in every interview ) to a playoff place is hardly tearing up the football world ! The whole situation at Rovers is a mess and ripping the club and fans apart ! agree its not tearing up the football world however its more than any of the recent previous managers have on their CV - for League 1 On the flip side Barton has no experience of L2 so does he have what takes to manage in that league ? We keep hearing how difficult it is to get promoted from L2 !
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Post by peterparker on Mar 24, 2021 16:45:31 GMT
Wants to get his buddy Jennings in doesnt he
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 16:48:33 GMT
Wants to get his buddy Jennings in doesnt he Joey's bodyguard? I wonder if he will be the first managers bodyguard the club have ever employed. He is often disguised as Joey's agent, Joey's DOF but he's his minder.
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Post by Bourne End Gas on Mar 24, 2021 17:38:33 GMT
Barton has said there is a cancer running through the club so one obvious target is TW , does it run from the commercial dept , players , coaches the academy all the way down to ground staff ,shop staff ? What do other posters think ?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 24, 2021 17:42:07 GMT
I wish he'd stop all of the 'sinking ships, climbing Everest, Cancer' nonsense.... The need to speak in metaphors in so unnecessary.... Yep, he should lay his cards on the table, or go back to the drawing board.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 24, 2021 17:49:17 GMT
Barton has said there is a cancer running through the club so one obvious target is TW , does it run from the commercial dept , players , coaches the academy all the way down to ground staff ,shop staff ? What do other posters think ? I think the only way we will know is when folk start to leave.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 24, 2021 17:49:23 GMT
agree. It all depends on which div we start next season in. If it is in div 2 then would be surprised to find him still here when he may have a choice of a few clubs in the div closer to home. Or he's already accepted were going down and what he is doing publicly is clearing the path and managing expectations amongst the players and fans for a big clear out. If we go down then I think he will stay he's got a massive ego and turning this around will be huge kudos for him and he would have known the risk when he freely signed a 2.5 year contracto, plus doesn't look good on you CV that you jumped ship at the first opportunity. I hope he stays as he has the balls and personality to do what is required,we have a soft underbelly and if he doesn't stay i fear for our future. Not sure he needs to get the fans onside for a big clear-out. I think we'll be queueing up to drive them back.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Mar 24, 2021 17:49:27 GMT
Is Manse rated as a coach? He was immense at Mansfield when we won there and a player ,Nicky Hunt, kept hacking him off the ball (was sent of) but Manse was a real skipper that day? Snakey scored a late winner and Jermaine Easter was sent off.
NB .Bristolians would say 'Hacking him off OF the ball"
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 24, 2021 17:50:25 GMT
Or he's already accepted were going down and what he is doing publicly is clearing the path and managing expectations amongst the players and fans for a big clear out. If we go down then I think he will stay he's got a massive ego and turning this around will be huge kudos for him and he would have known the risk when he freely signed a 2.5 year contracto, plus doesn't look good on you CV that you jumped ship at the first opportunity. I hope he stays as he has the balls and personality to do what is required,we have a soft underbelly and if he doesn't stay i fear for our future. Not sure he needs to get the fans onside for a big clear-out. I think we'll be queueing up to drive them back. I was trying to be charitable😆😆
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Post by theduke on Mar 24, 2021 17:52:01 GMT
I'm assuming that he's referring to the culture, rather than specific individuals when he says this.
The club does seem to have a culture that just accepts mediocrity, where people can be promoted or rewarded for average or below-par performance, where many are probably just content to remain a league one/league two yo-yo club and not aspire to do better. You can see examples of that all over the place.
Ironically the one area where we are quick to make changes is the first team manager so he'd probably want to consider how far he wants to take this line of thinking within the public environment.
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