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Post by orgasmic on Apr 1, 2021 13:55:21 GMT
Because he came in saying he could fix the foundations but hasn’t. In fact he is currently doing more damage to them. Well he wouldnt have got very far if he said "sorry lads you are as good as down, im gonna try and get rid of most of you in the summer, so do as you please" is he? Truth is the players arent good enough and there is very little that can be done about that other than replace them, which he cant do.. I’m glad we’ve abandoned the analogy!! Basically Barton joined saying the players were good enough. He then proceeded to get the same team that the sh!t BG and PT had to win less points. Currently his performance is dogsh!t and worse than his predecessors. Can’t blame the players when the previous 2 managers got more points from the same bunch. Basically, if BG and PT were sh!t (which they were) then JB is too!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 1, 2021 14:52:27 GMT
Well he wouldnt have got very far if he said "sorry lads you are as good as down, im gonna try and get rid of most of you in the summer, so do as you please" is he? Truth is the players arent good enough and there is very little that can be done about that other than replace them, which he cant do.. I’m glad we’ve abandoned the analogy!! Basically Barton joined saying the players were good enough. He then proceeded to get the same team that the sh!t BG and PT had to win less points. Currently his performance is dogsh!t and worse than his predecessors. Can’t blame the players when the previous 2 managers got more points from the same bunch. Basically, if BG and PT were sh!t (which they were) then JB is too! So whats your point you want Barton sacked as well?
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 1, 2021 17:04:44 GMT
I’m glad we’ve abandoned the analogy!! Basically Barton joined saying the players were good enough. He then proceeded to get the same team that the sh!t BG and PT had to win less points. Currently his performance is dogsh!t and worse than his predecessors. Can’t blame the players when the previous 2 managers got more points from the same bunch. Basically, if BG and PT were sh!t (which they were) then JB is too! So whats your point you want Barton sacked as well? Not at all. I think we need to stick with a manager for more than 5 minutes before we get a reputation for being a circus! Who wants to move to a club that changes managers as regularly as we have?! None as they might fall out of favour. I just think it’s misguided to absolve JB of blame because he inherited a sh!t squad. Regardless of what he inherited he is doing worse than the 2 previous managers with the same players all the while publicly calling them negligent. Makes him look like a right tit in my opinion!
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Post by aghast on Apr 1, 2021 18:10:09 GMT
So whats your point you want Barton sacked as well? Not at all. I think we need to stick with a manager for more than 5 minutes before we get a reputation for being a circus! Who wants to move to a club that changes managers as regularly as we have?! None as they might fall out of favour. I just think it’s misguided to absolve JB of blame because he inherited a sh!t squad. Regardless of what he inherited he is doing worse than the 2 previous managers with the same players all the while publicly calling them negligent. Makes him look like a right tit in my opinion! I'm finding it hard to argue with that.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 1, 2021 18:11:56 GMT
Just for anyone that is interested I checked the Bristol Post article today and the stats have been corrected.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 18:43:04 GMT
So whats your point you want Barton sacked as well? Not at all. I think we need to stick with a manager for more than 5 minutes before we get a reputation for being a circus! Who wants to move to a club that changes managers as regularly as we have?! None as they might fall out of favour. I just think it’s misguided to absolve JB of blame because he inherited a sh!t squad. Regardless of what he inherited he is doing worse than the 2 previous managers with the same players all the while publicly calling them negligent. Makes him look like a right tit in my opinion! Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches.
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 1, 2021 18:51:26 GMT
Not at all. I think we need to stick with a manager for more than 5 minutes before we get a reputation for being a circus! Who wants to move to a club that changes managers as regularly as we have?! None as they might fall out of favour. I just think it’s misguided to absolve JB of blame because he inherited a sh!t squad. Regardless of what he inherited he is doing worse than the 2 previous managers with the same players all the while publicly calling them negligent. Makes him look like a right tit in my opinion! Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches. Every manager loses players to injury. Every squad has players carrying knocks. BG and PT did and every other manager in the football league the same.
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Post by giles on Apr 1, 2021 19:11:42 GMT
Not at all. I think we need to stick with a manager for more than 5 minutes before we get a reputation for being a circus! Who wants to move to a club that changes managers as regularly as we have?! None as they might fall out of favour. I just think it’s misguided to absolve JB of blame because he inherited a sh!t squad. Regardless of what he inherited he is doing worse than the 2 previous managers with the same players all the while publicly calling them negligent. Makes him look like a right tit in my opinion! Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches. But most of these were not available to his predecessors
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 19:14:18 GMT
Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches. Every manager loses players to injury. Every squad has players carrying knocks. BG and PT did and every other manager in the football league the same. Not sure they suffer so many injuries to key players when the squad was already weak when every player was fit. PT was doing OK until the squad was hit by COVID and it's never been the same since.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 19:16:34 GMT
Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches. But most of these were not available to his predecessors Pretty sure they all started the season fit apart from Rodman and Barrett. BG tended to lose the odd player to injury not over half a dozen. PT was doing OK until COVID hit the club.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 1, 2021 19:59:43 GMT
But most of these were not available to his predecessors Pretty sure they all started the season fit apart from Rodman and Barrett. BG tended to lose the odd player to injury not over half a dozen. PT was doing OK until COVID hit the club. Maybe JB needs to look at his training methods?
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 1, 2021 20:03:17 GMT
Seems all our old managers from GC are back in work in some shape or form. Just cant seem to find where garner is now.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 20:30:31 GMT
Pretty sure they all started the season fit apart from Rodman and Barrett. BG tended to lose the odd player to injury not over half a dozen. PT was doing OK until COVID hit the club. Maybe JB needs to look at his training methods? Most have been injured during matches rather than training, although I guess this is more anti-JB nonsense from you anyway, don't you get bored with it, perhaps you should spend more time helping BG find a new job as at this rate he'll be out of work for a full calendar year.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 20:31:21 GMT
Seems all our old managers from GC are back in work in some shape or form. Just cant seem to find where garner is now. Spending most of his time posting on this thread by the looks of things?
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Post by pirate on Apr 1, 2021 20:36:45 GMT
Pretty sure they all started the season fit apart from Rodman and Barrett. BG tended to lose the odd player to injury not over half a dozen. PT was doing OK until COVID hit the club. Maybe JB needs to look at his training methods? We have the worst late goals conceded record in the division. Maybe it's the previous regime's training methods that have contributed to the state we are in with those late goals and injuries? The bulk of fitness work is done in the summer after all.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 1, 2021 20:45:59 GMT
Maybe JB needs to look at his training methods? We have the worst late goals conceded record in the division. Maybe it's the previous regime's training methods that have contributed to the state we are in with those late goals and injuries? The bulk of fitness work is done in the summer after all. You could be right actually. In fact I am sure I read somewhere that muscle injuries and strains usually happen 8-9 months after pre season. Maybe it was the pre season the year before that was poor which lead to a double up effect and then it all culminated in lots of players getting injured.
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Post by pirate on Apr 1, 2021 20:48:00 GMT
We have the worst late goals conceded record in the division. Maybe it's the previous regime's training methods that have contributed to the state we are in with those late goals and injuries? The bulk of fitness work is done in the summer after all. You could be right actually. In fact I am sure I read somewhere that muscle injuries and strains usually happen 8-9 months after pre season. Maybe it was the pre season the year before that was poor which lead to a double up effect and then it all culminated in lots of players getting injured. Could be.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 1, 2021 20:53:07 GMT
Is that really the case though as since he's been at the club he's lost, from memory, Jaakola, Oztumer, Ehmer, Grant, Upson, Rodman, Harries, Barrett and Kioki and Nicholson plus Hanlon is apparently carrying an injury, it sounds like Kilgour will miss at least the Easter fixtures and Grant's also had a relapse. Given we appear to already have a weak squad when everybody is fit it's no wonder JB's struggling with over half a dozen players missing for some matches. But most of these were not available to his predecessors BG had all of theee players available bar Rodman. Tisdale had all of the players available bar Rodman and Ayunga. Jakkola got injured playing a plastic cup game after 3 games a Nicholson was missing from mid Jan. Barton has had all of the above missing in part or the whole time he was here plus Ogogo who was brought back from Daggers.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 1, 2021 20:56:17 GMT
But most of these were not available to his predecessors BG had all of theee players available bar Rodman. Tisdale had all of the players available bar Rodman and Ayunga. Jakkola got injured playing a plastic cup game after 3 games a Nicholson was missing from mid Jan. Barton has had all of the above missing in part or the whole time he was here plus Ogogo who was brought back from Daggers. Garner had Ayunga injured as well
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Post by landrover on Apr 1, 2021 20:59:13 GMT
We have the worst late goals conceded record in the division. Maybe it's the previous regime's training methods that have contributed to the state we are in with those late goals and injuries? The bulk of fitness work is done in the summer after all. You could be right actually. In fact I am sure I read somewhere that muscle injuries and strains usually happen 8-9 months after pre season. Maybe it was the pre season the year before that was poor which lead to a double up effect and then it all culminated in lots of players getting injured. So muscle injuries are more prevalent towards the end of the season! Who’d have thought it. My theory would be that you get more injuries the more sh*te your team is. And boy, were we sh*te.
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