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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 16:22:21 GMT
Interesting to see what Adrian Tucker thinks of BG having worked with him at Rovers as well as Clarke and Coughlan. Adrian Tucker @tucks_gkcoach “Extremely disappointing to read. I worked first hand with Ben Garner and I will say his application, attitude and attention to the job on and off the field in my time was exemplary.” dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top… via @mailonline This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 17:41:21 GMT
Interesting to see what Adrian Tucker thinks of BG having worked with him at Rovers as well as Clarke and Coughlan. Adrian Tucker @tucks_gkcoach “Extremely disappointing to read. I worked first hand with Ben Garner and I will say his application, attitude and attention to the job on and off the field in my time was exemplary.” dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top… via @mailonline Tucks never worked with Clarke. Was bought in by GC
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 18:03:14 GMT
Interesting to see what Adrian Tucker thinks of BG having worked with him at Rovers as well as Clarke and Coughlan. Adrian Tucker @tucks_gkcoach “Extremely disappointing to read. I worked first hand with Ben Garner and I will say his application, attitude and attention to the job on and off the field in my time was exemplary.” dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top… via @mailonline This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. I guess it's far easier to put the cones out when the manager tells you where to put them, a bit harder to do it when you have to decide yourself where the cones go. It sounds like Tucker and BG are long term colleagues so hardly surprising to read his tweet: "Having known Adrian a long time it was great to work with him. He has been offered an exciting role for him professionally and we wish him the best of luck for the future. Adrian will always be welcome back at Rovers.”
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 18:04:02 GMT
Interesting to see what Adrian Tucker thinks of BG having worked with him at Rovers as well as Clarke and Coughlan. Adrian Tucker @tucks_gkcoach “Extremely disappointing to read. I worked first hand with Ben Garner and I will say his application, attitude and attention to the job on and off the field in my time was exemplary.” dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top… via @mailonline Tucks never worked with Clarke. Was bought in by GC Then jumped ship last summer!
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 3, 2021 18:40:17 GMT
Interesting to see what Adrian Tucker thinks of BG having worked with him at Rovers as well as Clarke and Coughlan. Adrian Tucker @tucks_gkcoach “Extremely disappointing to read. I worked first hand with Ben Garner and I will say his application, attitude and attention to the job on and off the field in my time was exemplary.” dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top… via @mailonline This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. and yet the genius is still out of work.
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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 18:49:56 GMT
This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. and yet the genius is still out of work. Yep, probably hoping for another managers role and he may well not get it. Sure he could have copied GC and got a job filling water bottles for an under 23 team.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 3, 2021 19:29:41 GMT
This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. and yet the genius is still out of work. He is probably preparing his CV waiting for Ronald Koeman to get sacked.
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Post by aghast on Apr 3, 2021 19:31:47 GMT
This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. and yet the genius is still out of work. Well his Wikipedia page under the Bristol Rovers section is certainly bigging him up....wonder who did the current edits?
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 19:35:45 GMT
and yet the genius is still out of work. Well his Wikipedia page under the Bristol Rovers section is certainly bigging him up....wonder who did the current edits? It’s a bit weird you have been looking at Garners Wikipedia page. You and Blue Biro need to get over it.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 3, 2021 19:43:50 GMT
and yet the genius is still out of work. Well his Wikipedia page under the Bristol Rovers section is certainly bigging him up....wonder who did the current edits? 2 sentences in it are a bit conflicting ; Similarly, on 25 October 2020 David Tutonda enthused about his Manager stating "he's a phenomenal person. He's a top, top coach, his attention to detail is unreal and he sees things that we don't see. He's a class act all around". [22] On 14 November 2020, Garner was relieved of his duties with the club following a 4–1 home defeat to Fleetwood Town.
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Post by aghast on Apr 3, 2021 19:43:52 GMT
Well his Wikipedia page under the Bristol Rovers section is certainly bigging him up....wonder who did the current edits? It’s a bit weird you have been looking at Garners Wikipedia page. You and Blue Biro need to get over it. It's not weird at all. I look at Wikipedia a lot, for Rovers and non-Rovers related things. And if we're talking about needing to get over it, the irony of you saying that is.....well....ironic.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 19:55:55 GMT
Well his Wikipedia page under the Bristol Rovers section is certainly bigging him up....wonder who did the current edits? 2 sentences in it are a bit conflicting ; Similarly, on 25 October 2020 David Tutonda enthused about his Manager stating "he's a phenomenal person. He's a top, top coach, his attention to detail is unreal and he sees things that we don't see. He's a class act all around". [22] On 14 November 2020, Garner was relieved of his duties with the club following a 4–1 home defeat to Fleetwood Town. How do they conflict?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 3, 2021 20:01:44 GMT
2 sentences in it are a bit conflicting ; Similarly, on 25 October 2020 David Tutonda enthused about his Manager stating "he's a phenomenal person. He's a top, top coach, his attention to detail is unreal and he sees things that we don't see. He's a class act all around". [22] On 14 November 2020, Garner was relieved of his duties with the club following a 4–1 home defeat to Fleetwood Town. How do they conflict? Ah on second thoughts maybe they dont, Tutonda did say coach and not manager.
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 20:05:43 GMT
Ah on second thoughts maybe they dont, Tutonda did say coach and not manager. They don’t conflict. One is a statement of opinion from a player that played under Garner and one is a statement of fact that garner had lost his job. No conflict at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 20:07:04 GMT
This is the thing - I can get the argument from those who say Garner couldn’t make the switch from coach to manager, but it’s hard to find anyone that says anything but good things about his coaching and he’s coached at a far higher level than Barton. Trying to lay blame at Garners training sessions is never going to wash. and yet the genius is still out of work. I don’t imagine he’s in much of a rush to find a new job whilst he’s (presumably) still picking up his wages from Rovers.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 20:09:03 GMT
and yet the genius is still out of work. I don’t imagine he’s in much of a rush to find a new job whilst he’s (presumably) still picking up his wages from Rovers. Why would he be when he was dismissed, I assume he was given severance pay in accordance with his contract.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 20:13:11 GMT
Some more interesting comments made by JB after yesterday's game:
"For me, it all stops with me, I’m the manager but the only thing is that I need my players. Any players I know train correctly, any players I know is fit when the physio says they’re fit, I don’t have that at this moment in time and I’ve never known a football club like it. I’ve never known anything like this in my whole time in professional sport."
I guess tomorrow's DM will be suggesting that our physio's are now taking legal advice, we sound a right basket case of a club, so where does the buck stop, Widdrington or Starnes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 20:14:48 GMT
I don’t imagine he’s in much of a rush to find a new job whilst he’s (presumably) still picking up his wages from Rovers. Why would he be when he was dismissed, I assume he was given severance pay in accordance with his contract. Not all contracts would have a severance clause. Many dismissals would lead to a severance discussion but if an agreement isn’t reached the club will carry on paying - some managers will find other work quickly and pay from their previous employer would end. Others seem quite happy to see out their contract sat at home on gardening leave - an example being Sven Goran Ericsson who seemed to take a year or two off every time he got sacked and only looked for new jobs when he stopped getting paid.
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 3, 2021 21:07:43 GMT
and yet the genius is still out of work. Yep, probably hoping for another managers role and he may well not get it. Sure he could have copied GC and got a job filling water bottles for an under 23 team. He isn’t fit to lace GC’s boots, never played the game, never will get another Managers job.
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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 21:42:53 GMT
Yep, probably hoping for another managers role and he may well not get it. Sure he could have copied GC and got a job filling water bottles for an under 23 team. He isn’t fit to lace GC’s boots, never played the game, never will get another Managers job. Possibly, but at least he conducted himself in the right way and showed respect to the club. I wish BG all the best for the future, but couldn’t care less what happens to angry Graham, who is also unlikely to get another managers job.
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