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Post by stevek192 on May 17, 2021 23:38:52 GMT
Amazes me that people talk about keeping Zain Walker and getting rid of Hanlan. walker didn't look likely to score a goal during any of his appearances. hanlan had a reasonable record until he became a spent force from playing through injury. One of our own is not a reason to keep a player.
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Post by pirate on May 18, 2021 0:29:28 GMT
Amazes me that people talk about keeping Zain Walker and getting rid of Hanlan. walker didn't look likely to score a goal during any of his appearances. hanlan had a reasonable record until he became a spent force from playing through injury. One of our own is not a reason to keep a player. One of our own, or signed from Fulham following his release?
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Post by Keynsham Rover on May 18, 2021 5:39:13 GMT
Amazes me that people talk about keeping Zain Walker and getting rid of Hanlan. walker didn't look likely to score a goal during any of his appearances. hanlan had a reasonable record until he became a spent force from playing through injury. One of our own is not a reason to keep a player. Walker is 19 and experiencing his first season in pro football. Hanlan is 23 and has played for five different clubs. No point really comparing the two, I would keep both.
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Post by Jomo on May 18, 2021 6:11:53 GMT
Amazes me that people talk about keeping Zain Walker and getting rid of Hanlan. walker didn't look likely to score a goal during any of his appearances. hanlan had a reasonable record until he became a spent force from playing through injury. One of our own is not a reason to keep a player. Walker is 19 and experiencing his first season in pro football. Hanlan is 23 and has played for five different clubs. No point really comparing the two, I would keep both. Yep, worth persevering with both of them, especially as they'll be performing at a lower level. It could give them the springboard they need to really kick on. I have been massively critical of Hanlan since Christmas, he was absolutely dreadful, but I'm hoping that a rest followed by a good pre-season will do him the world of good. He showed in glimpses last season that he can be a good forward in L1, so hopefully he can replicate those glimpses over the course of the season in L2.
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Post by playtowin on May 18, 2021 6:46:50 GMT
Luke Leahy gave it his all.Not an accomplished defender but he and Mc Cormick really gave everything unlike most of the others. Best of luck.Good little club with excellent training facilities and a stadium which suits their small crowds to perfection and has great catering and disabled facilities. Shrews only club in the whole West Mercia area of;Shrops,Worcs and Herefordshire so potential is there. Did he really, let's be honest until he was made captain by Barton he was seen as guilty as the rest of the back 5 for our defensive woes, I doubt he even improved following just that the others got even worse. Its difficult to fairly judge a player just on what we see. A player is doing the role the manager asks of him .He is also dependent on how others perform their roles . Look at the swing from end of DCs era to GC and then to BG . Its mostly the same players but the outcomes very different.
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Post by RD on May 18, 2021 7:24:27 GMT
Walker is 19 and experiencing his first season in pro football. Hanlan is 23 and has played for five different clubs. No point really comparing the two, I would keep both. Yep, worth persevering with both of them, especially as they'll be performing at a lower level. It could give them the springboard they need to really kick on. I have been massively critical of Hanlan since Christmas, he was absolutely dreadful, but I'm hoping that a rest followed by a good pre-season will do him the world of good. He showed in glimpses last season that he can be a good forward in L1, so hopefully he can replicate those glimpses over the course of the season in L2. Unless Hanlan is on about 500 quid a week I'd get rid ASAP.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on May 18, 2021 7:29:21 GMT
Yep, worth persevering with both of them, especially as they'll be performing at a lower level. It could give them the springboard they need to really kick on. I have been massively critical of Hanlan since Christmas, he was absolutely dreadful, but I'm hoping that a rest followed by a good pre-season will do him the world of good. He showed in glimpses last season that he can be a good forward in L1, so hopefully he can replicate those glimpses over the course of the season in L2. Unless Hanlan is on about 500 quid a week I'd get rid ASAP. Unless Barton & Co can 'really get into him' and very quickly get him up to speed on how to control and keep hold of the ball he needs to move from the number 9 position to a more wider area. Still think he can offer something to this team, but that centre forward/target man (right now) he is not.
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Post by bluebiro on May 18, 2021 7:29:24 GMT
Yep, worth persevering with both of them, especially as they'll be performing at a lower level. It could give them the springboard they need to really kick on. I have been massively critical of Hanlan since Christmas, he was absolutely dreadful, but I'm hoping that a rest followed by a good pre-season will do him the world of good. He showed in glimpses last season that he can be a good forward in L1, so hopefully he can replicate those glimpses over the course of the season in L2. Unless Hanlan is on about 500 quid a week I'd get rid ASAP. 50 quid a week is too much
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Post by Jomo on May 18, 2021 7:33:39 GMT
Yep, worth persevering with both of them, especially as they'll be performing at a lower level. It could give them the springboard they need to really kick on. I have been massively critical of Hanlan since Christmas, he was absolutely dreadful, but I'm hoping that a rest followed by a good pre-season will do him the world of good. He showed in glimpses last season that he can be a good forward in L1, so hopefully he can replicate those glimpses over the course of the season in L2. Unless Hanlan is on about 500 quid a week I'd get rid ASAP. Don't get me wrong, I've never gotten so angry with a player constantly as I was getting with his going to ground and tripping over his own feet every time he was anywhere near the ball! But when he was fresh at the start of the season, he wasn't a world beater but certainly miles better than in the 2nd half of the season. If we can get him back to full fitness, he might be worth having in the squad. Emphasis on the "might" there.
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Post by gashead1981 on May 18, 2021 8:09:00 GMT
I dont know why Hanlan is getting so much stick. Firstly, hes not a target man, hes in some ways very similar to Nicholson in that he cuts in from wider positions in an attacking 3 and yet he was mainly deployed as the target man or main striker at the front of a 3.
Secondly, when he had the odd player with some creativity around or behind him actually helping him create chances he was playing well. Hes been played as the lone wolf for about 75% of the season, half injured, with no support. Our eggs were in one basket with him all season and we needed another 2 strikers to help him out.
Wayne Rooney in his prime wouldnt have done any better.
The one thing that does annoy me about him though is his constant falling over.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on May 18, 2021 8:29:14 GMT
I dont know why Hanlan is getting so much stick. Firstly, hes not a target man, hes in some ways very similar to Nicholson in that he cuts in from wider positions in an attacking 3 and yet he was mainly deployed as the target man or main striker at the front of a 3. Secondly, when he had the odd player with some creativity around or behind him actually helping him create chances he was playing well. Hes been played as the lone wolf for about 75% of the season, half injured, with no support. Our eggs were in one basket with him all season and we needed another 2 strikers to help him out. Wayne Rooney in his prime wouldnt have done any better. The one thing that does annoy me about him though is his constant falling over. Yeah man, balance and first touch / possession of the ball - those things need work, but no way am I saying get rid
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 18, 2021 9:40:07 GMT
I think people are being harsh on Hanlan. I think he could do well in L2. He had spells last season where he was our best player, admittedly in the first half of the season, not the end.
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Post by singupgas on May 18, 2021 10:03:29 GMT
With Daly rumoured to be in list of player not wanted, leaving Hanlan, Ayunga and Walkwr we sure need to bring in much needed experience.
If we really want to bounce back up, we are going to need to push the boat out a little with our signings..picking up 10 free transfers and expecting to walk the league will be laughable once again.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 18, 2021 10:06:40 GMT
Some players we are stuck with might kick on by playing in L2, some may well surprise us
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Post by pucklegas on May 18, 2021 10:34:19 GMT
Some players we are stuck with might kick on by playing in L2, some may well surprise us Don t think I want to see most of them again, watched almost all the games more alcohol was the answer to keeping me happy.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 18, 2021 10:37:39 GMT
Some players we are stuck with might kick on by playing in L2, some may well surprise us Don t think I want to see most of them again, watched almost all the games more alcohol was the answer to keeping me happy. I think the likes of Tutonda and Ayunga may benefit from a lower level. Pace is a big weapon in any league so Zain Walker may also shine
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Post by lavalamp on May 18, 2021 10:50:38 GMT
Nicholson and Hanlon playing left and right of a front 3 with an experienced tall powerful player in the middle with Ayunga as his back up plus Zain Walker as the back up for the other 2 is my guess.
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Post by Raj Gas on May 18, 2021 10:54:17 GMT
I have never quite worked out if Zain is a striker, winger or midfielder.
The official site have him down as a midfielder but then again they say he was born on 01/01/1901!
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Post by wilmslowgas on May 18, 2021 14:44:46 GMT
I'd persevere with Hanlan. He had a good first half season and a dreadful second half.
He is not the player to lead the attack but he could play wide up front or in a supporting role. He may find it easier against L2 defences but he needs a more experienced player taking the lead striking role. Whatever happens, I'd wish he would stop throwing himself to the ground at every opportunity. It alienates referees and irritates the fans.
I don't have Walker as the answer to our striking problems.
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Post by yattongas on May 18, 2021 14:56:58 GMT
I think people are being harsh on Hanlan. I think he could do well in L2. He had spells last season where he was our best player, admittedly in the first half of the season, not the end. I think he’s got a lot of good attributes but he seems to be missing the most important one you need as a striker..... that split second bit of composure you need as you line up a shot. I could see him doing better in a 4-3-3 and playing out wide cutting in but wouldn’t play him as the focal point.
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