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Post by yattongas on May 15, 2021 18:04:03 GMT
When he joined there were lots of posts stating that his misdemeanours were in the past and he was innocent until proven guilty. I’m curious how people will feel if he is found guilty whilst at work in his previous job, while representing the club, assaulting another team’s manager. It would therefore mean he was both guilty and it was a current offence. Regardless of whether he spends any time inside, if found guilty, how would people feel? Bl00dy good question that and a dilemna if ever there was one, even though i am firmly in the JB camp i think a custodial would give the club no choice, community service maybe some leeway as the offence was committed before being employed by BRFC, though there would be some adverse publicity for sure. Personally i am surprised it has got this far next it will be players scrapping on the field in court I'm probably from a different generation to a lot on here ,but in my day it would have been a scrap you took the consequences you moved on and would have been embarrassed if it became legal, probably some will argue thats not right but hey ho. He’s doing community service at the moment having to watch the Gas every week 😂
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Post by dinsdale on May 15, 2021 18:38:47 GMT
Worst he would get is a suspended sentence, he won't go down for that. How can any poster state that's really the case without knowing what injuries were actually suffered by Stendel? Cat 1 and 2 abh = serious injury occuring. It was reported he pushed someone who suffered an injury to their tooth. As such is a category 3 abh where the max sentence is a community order (probation) Whatever happens he wont go down
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Post by northseagas on May 15, 2021 18:46:27 GMT
Yet another Barton bashing thread, brilliant same sort of crap on the so called Bristol rovers appreciation page on Facebook, time to give a rest it really is getting boring now
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 18:47:06 GMT
Why would he do that, he has already pleaded not guilty and his defence will be fully aware of any witnesses etc. Interestingly a Barnsley player posted a tweet at the time claiming it was a bloodbath. That was quickly taken down as there wasn't any blood. The only injury that Stendal had was a chipped tooth sustained when he was pushed over, Hardly the sort of injury you would expect from a violent assault. Can you give me a link to the article which confirms the only injury suffered was a chipped tooth, as all the press articles at the time suggested Stendel required dental treatment for damage to two front teeth. BBC news article 1st June 2020. Lots of others you can Google.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 15, 2021 19:56:22 GMT
Can you give me a link to the article which confirms the only injury suffered was a chipped tooth, as all the press articles at the time suggested Stendel required dental treatment for damage to two front teeth. BBC news article 1st June 2020. Lots of others you can Google. "German manager Mr Stendel was said to be left with a damaged tooth" a damaged tooth isn't necessarily just a chipped tooth, I've not seen any articles which suggest Stendel only suffered a chipped tooth.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 15, 2021 19:59:19 GMT
Yet another Barton bashing thread, brilliant same sort of crap on the so called Bristol rovers appreciation page on Facebook, time to give a rest it really is getting boring now Even if he does well for us next season, for some it will be because 'its only league 2'
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Post by surreygas4 on May 15, 2021 20:33:39 GMT
Do you not think the club didn't consider all possibility's before appointing him ? seems to be a few on here that wont give him a chance, but I think Joey is here to stay until xmas at least and if we are anywhere near the play offs, he will see out the season. Season ticket sells already around 2,000 following relegation shows a lot of people are behind him. I have renewed my season ticket but not because I am 'behind him'. Its because I support my team. Didn't want him in the first place, seen nothing since he came in to persuade me and his comments in public are imo embarrassing at times. However I still support the club. Not everyone who has renewed their season tickets are (doing it because they are) 'behind' Barton.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 6:53:45 GMT
BBC news article 1st June 2020. Lots of others you can Google. "German manager Mr Stendel was said to be left with a damaged tooth" a damaged tooth isn't necessarily just a chipped tooth, I've not seen any articles which suggest Stendel only suffered a chipped tooth. A chip tooth is mentioned in several of the many reports at the time and a year later at the preliminary trial. If you fancy spending your Sunday trawling through the internet, enjoy your day.
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Post by gulfofaden on May 16, 2021 7:07:17 GMT
I’m quite surprised by all this. I’m not even that old but I grew up in a world where the odd fight was commonplace and I only assumed it’s kicking someone half to death which got the police and jail/sentencing involved.
I now realise if you exchange a few swings over a road rage incident or an argument at the pub, now it seems to be almost 6 months inside.
Has the world got more litigious? I would have thought the police had bigger fish to fry, and to me, a fight between grown men is pretty insignificant.
My life age 14-18 was continually “some kiddie chasing after some kiddie” and scuffles. Countless fights, it seems today each one would result in a conviction and all the protagonists being unemployable for 5-10 years.
Even adults, local pubs, you’d get the odd drunken exchange of blows. Many times it was forgotten about 3 weeks later but now seems it would drag out in the courts
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Post by wirralgas on May 16, 2021 8:56:12 GMT
Can we just wait until the court case before sepeculation. He had denied it maybe he’s telling the truth and he didn’t do it his reputation goes before him. A few punches thrown and people assume it must have been Barton again he might be completely cleared and people feel pretty silly after all why have a court at all if everyone who goes there is guilty just hang them anyway
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Post by chilly1883 on May 16, 2021 9:04:01 GMT
I hope he’s soo successful, he’s here for 10 years! Just to annoy the haters! It’s a very sad way to live your life’s, wanting someone to fail. Wasted energy. UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on May 16, 2021 9:23:23 GMT
Can we just wait until the court case before sepeculation. He had denied it maybe he’s telling the truth and he didn’t do it his reputation goes before him. A few punches thrown and people assume it must have been Barton again he might be completely cleared and people feel pretty silly after all why have a court at all if everyone who goes there is guilty just hang them anyway I doubt the CPS will have taken it this far just based on Barton's previous, do you?
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Post by wirralgas on May 16, 2021 9:27:10 GMT
Can we just wait until the court case before sepeculation. He had denied it maybe he’s telling the truth and he didn’t do it his reputation goes before him. A few punches thrown and people assume it must have been Barton again he might be completely cleared and people feel pretty silly after all why have a court at all if everyone who goes there is guilty just hang them anyway I doubt the CPS will have taken it this far just based on Barton's previous, do you? Mate have you ever seen poirot the one think did it all the way through turns out to be somebody else. All I’m saying is wait to the court case he’s denied it maybe he’s telling the truth. Bloke gets hit looks round and it must of been Barton. For gods sake Stendel turned down the rovers job and it’s like people here are on his side
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Post by gasify on May 16, 2021 11:29:19 GMT
I hope he’s soo successful, he’s here for 10 years! Just to annoy the haters! It’s a very sad way to live your life’s, wanting someone to fail. Wasted energy. UTG I think you are wrong. I would be happy for him to be here for 10 years under those circumstances. We would be in Europe before the Sh1!heads! I don't think that there are many (if any) JB haters hoping he will fail. I think we are hoping that he will succeed and that success will allow him to stay away from saying/doing stupid sh**.
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Post by playtowin on May 16, 2021 12:10:44 GMT
I think if he does found guilty, he’s gone. The club will have examined all the possibilities and accepted the risk he might get a prison sentence in the summer, the gamble was that he might keep us up before then or he won’t get found guilty and he’ll be able to continue. I think the fact he hasn’t permanently relocated to the area speaks volumes. Francis drove in from Surrey. DC lived on the south coast. Many decide to not keep moving their families especially in the first season.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on May 16, 2021 12:25:24 GMT
Can we just wait until the court case before sepeculation. He had denied it maybe he’s telling the truth and he didn’t do it his reputation goes before him. A few punches thrown and people assume it must have been Barton again he might be completely cleared and people feel pretty silly after all why have a court at all if everyone who goes there is guilty just hang them anyway I doubt the CPS will have taken it this far just based on Barton's previous, do you? CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ.
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Post by chilly1883 on May 16, 2021 14:10:53 GMT
I hope he’s soo successful, he’s here for 10 years! Just to annoy the haters! It’s a very sad way to live your life’s, wanting someone to fail. Wasted energy. UTG I think you are wrong. I would be happy for him to be here for 10 years under those circumstances. We would be in Europe before the Sh1!heads! I don't think that there are many (if any) JB haters hoping he will fail. I think we are hoping that he will succeed and that success will allow him to stay away from saying/doing stupid sh**. No, just hoping he’s locked up. Don’t know what’s worse?
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Post by wirralgas on May 16, 2021 16:04:55 GMT
I doubt the CPS will have taken it this far just based on Barton's previous, do you? CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ. Exactly this the point I was making
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Post by Topper Gas on May 16, 2021 16:21:04 GMT
CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ. Exactly this the point I was making Then why suggest it was a case of mistaken identity, which seems a ludicrous suggestion.
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Post by wirralgas on May 16, 2021 16:33:06 GMT
Exactly this the point I was making Then why suggest it was a case of mistaken identity, which seems a ludicrous suggestion. Why’s it ludicrous. If the bloke has been hit and his teeth have fallen out and Barton denies and is telling the truth then how else did the blokes teeth fall out
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