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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 16:35:55 GMT
Then why suggest it was a case of mistaken identity, which seems a ludicrous suggestion. Why’s it ludicrous. If the bloke has been hit and his teeth have fallen out and Barton denies and is telling the truth then how else did the blokes teeth fall out His teeth didn't fall out. It's claimed JB pushed him from behind in the tunnel and he hit his mouth on a metal fence and chipped a tooth.
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Post by gregsy on May 16, 2021 16:37:06 GMT
Then why suggest it was a case of mistaken identity, which seems a ludicrous suggestion. Why’s it ludicrous. If the bloke has been hit and his teeth have fallen out and Barton denies and is telling the truth then how else did the blokes teeth fall out Perhaps Daniel Standel had gum disease, and is trying to frame Barton for the Dentistry bills
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Post by wirralgas on May 16, 2021 16:38:16 GMT
Why’s it ludicrous. If the bloke has been hit and his teeth have fallen out and Barton denies and is telling the truth then how else did the blokes teeth fall out His teeth didn't fall out. It's claimed JB pushed him from behind in the tunnel and he hit his mouth on a metal fence and chipped a tooth. Is that it? What’s the fuss all about then. What do we want a bit of pushing and shoving or John ward shaking everyone’s hand all the way to the conference
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Post by gruad on May 16, 2021 16:52:58 GMT
Worst he would get is a suspended sentence, he won't go down for that. Look i had the sh** beat out of me 2 years ago and bloke admitted it and got off with a slapped wrist, yes i have no faith in the law so i fully expect him to get away with a fine, which no doubt the club will be happy to pay Sorry to hear that. It's an awful thing to say but justice mostly doesnt happen in my experience. I wasted a lot of time feeling outraged almost worse than the violent crimes against me.
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Post by lpgas1 on May 16, 2021 17:28:41 GMT
When he joined there were lots of posts stating that his misdemeanours were in the past and he was innocent until proven guilty. I’m curious how people will feel if he is found guilty whilst at work in his previous job, while representing the club, assaulting another team’s manager. It would therefore mean he was both guilty and it was a current offence. Regardless of whether he spends any time inside, if found guilty, how would people feel? Would it matter how fans feels as a conviction would then give Wael the perfect opportunity to sack him without paying him any compensation? Wael would have known about htis before he employed him, there fore you cannot sack someone if you have pre knowledge of it
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Post by lpgas1 on May 16, 2021 17:32:57 GMT
Stendel is a madman /idiot who is currently residing back in Germany. It may be that he can't be arsed to come over here for what could be more than one day.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on May 16, 2021 17:50:35 GMT
Then why suggest it was a case of mistaken identity, which seems a ludicrous suggestion. Why’s it ludicrous. If the bloke has been hit and his teeth have fallen out and Barton denies and is telling the truth then how else did the blokes teeth fall out Gum disease is a serious business.
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Post by blueginger on May 16, 2021 18:52:04 GMT
Do you not think the club didn't consider all possibility's before appointing him ? seems to be a few on here that wont give him a chance, but I think Joey is here to stay until xmas at least and if we are anywhere near the play offs, he will see out the season. Season ticket sells already around 2,000 following relegation shows a lot of people are behind him. blueginger, you do pretty tasty curries! You wouldnt say that if tasted mine, mind there is a pretty good one in Whitchurch.
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Post by olskooltoteender on May 17, 2021 8:52:18 GMT
I doubt the CPS will have taken it this far just based on Barton's previous, do you? CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ. The CPS are useless and are notorious for taking pointless cases to court. What has he actually been charged with, Common Assault, Common Assault (by beating), Assault (ABH) or Assault (GBH)?
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 17, 2021 9:01:04 GMT
CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ. The CPS are useless and are notorious for taking pointless cases to court. What has he actually been charged with, Common Assault, Common Assault (by beating), Assault (ABH) or Assault (GBH)? Especially if the accused has wealth...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 20:55:02 GMT
Court case on Monday according to the Sheffield Star.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 21:14:14 GMT
CPS never get things wrong... They refer cases when they feel that the weight of evidence suggests the case should be heard. Sometimes evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and in this case witnesses memory of perception of events may differ. The CPS are useless and are notorious for taking pointless cases to court. What has he actually been charged with, Common Assault, Common Assault (by beating), Assault (ABH) or Assault (GBH)? We will have to wait and see if it is pointless but twice convicted of violent offences makes it easy for the CPS to prosecute for a third time.
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Post by Gasshole on Jun 5, 2021 21:15:17 GMT
Stendel is a madman /idiot who is currently residing back in Germany. It may be that he can't be arsed to come over here for what could be more than one day. Oh ,German is he ? Case dismissed.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 5, 2021 22:41:28 GMT
Court case on Monday according to the Sheffield Star. Shall we have a match day thread??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 22:47:46 GMT
The CPS are useless and are notorious for taking pointless cases to court. What has he actually been charged with, Common Assault, Common Assault (by beating), Assault (ABH) or Assault (GBH)? We will have to wait and see if it is pointless but twice convicted of violent offences makes it easy for the CPS to prosecute for a third time. Just as well this case is not in the States or the prosecution might ask for a life sentence under their three strikes and out rules.
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Post by cagastrophy on Jun 6, 2021 6:19:02 GMT
The CPS are useless and are notorious for taking pointless cases to court. What has he actually been charged with, Common Assault, Common Assault (by beating), Assault (ABH) or Assault (GBH)? Especially if the accused has wealth... On one side thats true but on another there's 100s of serious crimes ignored each year and many rich people get away with murder because they can afford the legal fees whilst uneducated poor people get piled high in prisons. The system is unfit for purpose.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 6, 2021 6:54:30 GMT
Especially if the accused has wealth... On one side thats true but on another there's 100s of serious crimes ignored each year and many rich people get away with murder because they can afford the legal fees whilst uneducated poor people get piled high in prisons. The system is unfit for purpose. The CPS will prosecute on 3 things usually: 1. Whether the alleged offence has taken place. 2. Whether there is evidence to support the alleged offence. 3. Whether it is in the public interest to prosecute. Sometimes it will take a set of magistrates, prosecutors or crown judges to establish all of the facts and pull apart each witness testimony to establish the truth.
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Post by legas on Jun 6, 2021 8:21:54 GMT
Anyone know the likely timescale for an outcome (even if it’s a verdict that’s then appealed)? Will it be a quick decision or one that drags on?
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Post by poorblue on Jun 6, 2021 10:13:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 10:16:15 GMT
I'm sure Sky Sports will love it .... Reporter outside the Courtroom etc....
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