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Post by stevek192 on May 27, 2021 8:37:48 GMT
The four signings made yesterday are certainly a boost but I will not be getting excited until we take care of our main problem last season and that is the fact that we have Ayunga, Daley, Hanlon,Rodman and Walker who couldn't score 20 goals between them last season and the players coming in have no real goalscoring record between them. We all know that o99ur fate next season depends on now getting in 2-4 players who between them can put us nearer the 60 goals per season mark in the team. These signings are also likely to be the most difficult to get over the line so whilst pleased with the four signings only an improvement in scoring goals will really give us a chance of a go9od season.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 27, 2021 8:39:22 GMT
The four signings made yesterday are certainly a boost but I will not be getting excited until we take care of our main problem last season and that is the fact that we have Ayunga, Daley, Hanlon,Rodman and Walker who couldn't score 20 goals between them last season and the players coming in have no real goalscoring record between them. We all know that o99ur fate next season depends on now getting in 2-4 players who between them can put us nearer the 60 goals per season mark in the team. These signings are also likely to be the most difficult to get over the line so whilst pleased with the four signings only an improvement in scoring goals will really give us a chance of a go9od season. Not June yet. Plenty of time for us to sign strikers. |
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Post by SleepyGas on May 27, 2021 8:40:43 GMT
The four signings made yesterday are certainly a boost but I will not be getting excited until we take care of our main problem last season and that is the fact that we have Ayunga, Daley, Hanlon,Rodman and Walker who couldn't score 20 goals between them last season and the players coming in have no real goalscoring record between them. We all know that o99ur fate next season depends on now getting in 2-4 players who between them can put us nearer the 60 goals per season mark in the team. These signings are also likely to be the most difficult to get over the line so whilst pleased with the four signings only an improvement in scoring goals will really give us a chance of a go9od season. The experienced, goalscoring striker will be the hardest to get - so I would have been very surprised if we announced one that early! To me these signings look like the experienced players with winning mentalities that we were missing last season though.. a good start. But then I was quite excited by last season's signings too.. so definitely tempering my expectations this time...! |
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on May 27, 2021 8:55:12 GMT
Its a good start can’t argue that. Striker thats the biggie every club wants a 20 goal striker like gold dust can jb get one? Only time will tell
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 9:04:16 GMT
Its a good start can’t argue that. Striker thats the biggie every club wants a 20 goal striker like gold dust can jb get one? Only time will tell Not aimed at you but can anyone on here provide a list of realistic, proven at this level, regular 20 goal a season players who could form a short list? It might make some realise this is going to be difficult - certainly harder than a computer game that many think on here !!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 9:09:52 GMT
Similar Steve - Quietly enthused but know there is much more to do.
Coutts will be the Leader we crave - will add some industry and spark to the midfield and will shout / encourage when needed.
Finley will bring tenacity, grit , spiteful bite and know how that is also needed. Fancy he might chip in with the odd goal as well.
Anderton and Hughes - two no nonsense experienced defenders - wont be bullied , will put their bodies on the line.
We still need a keeper, maybe another one or two for the midfield, more creativity / attacking threat and probably two proven strikers. I think JB will bring in what we need ... this is a good start.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on May 27, 2021 9:17:11 GMT
When was the last time we bought in a proven goalscorer in the level we’re playing at?
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Post by Marshy on May 27, 2021 9:18:05 GMT
When was the last time we bought in a proven goalscorer in the level we’re playing at? 1883 |
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Post by SleepyGas on May 27, 2021 9:19:50 GMT
When was the last time we bought in a proven goalscorer in the level we’re playing at? In 2006 we signed Rickie Lambert in L2 when he had just scored over 20 goals in a season for Rochdale in the same league.. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on May 27, 2021 9:32:41 GMT
Its a good start can’t argue that. Striker thats the biggie every club wants a 20 goal striker like gold dust can jb get one? Only time will tell Not aimed at you but can anyone on here provide a list of realistic, proven at this level, regular 20 goal a season players who could form a short list? It might make some realise this is going to be difficult - certainly harder than a computer game that many think on here !!! Bang on mate... the list that I put together the other day wasn't really inline with your ask of regular 20 goal a season but as far as some goal scorers it may be a start James Norwood Paul Mullin Conor McAleny Brett Pitman John Akinde Edit: Do you think that a full Joey Barton pre season could bring Ayunga/Hanlan into the realms of bagging 15+ Goals? |
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Post by Jomo on May 27, 2021 9:35:25 GMT
When was the last time we bought in a proven goalscorer in the level we’re playing at? In 2006 we signed Rickie Lambert in L2 when he had just scored over 20 goals in a season for Rochdale in the same league.. Then under Buckle we brought in McGleish, Harrold, Zebroski and Anyinsah. As a strike force, that was about as "guaranteed goals" as you were going to get heading into L2 back then. Shame it didn't quite work out that way! A lesson in a long line of lessons to us fans not to get carried away by decent "on-paper" signings. |
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Post by SleepyGas on May 27, 2021 9:37:53 GMT
In 2006 we signed Rickie Lambert in L2 when he had just scored over 20 goals in a season for Rochdale in the same league.. Then under Buckle we brought in McGleish, Harrold, Zebroski and Anyinsah. As a strike force, that was about as "guaranteed goals" as you were going to get heading into L2 back then. Shame it didn't quite work out that way! A lesson in a long line of lessons to us fans not to get carried away by decent "on-paper" signings. I was so excited going into that season.. Buckle brought in all the top performers from his play-off final Torquay side, didn't he? Scott Bevan looked a giant in goal. Surely we were going straight back up....?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 9:40:21 GMT
Not aimed at you but can anyone on here provide a list of realistic, proven at this level, regular 20 goal a season players who could form a short list? It might make some realise this is going to be difficult - certainly harder than a computer game that many think on here !!! Bang on mate... the list that I put together the other day wasn't really inline with your ask of regular 20 goal a season but as far as some goal scorers it may be a start James Norwood Paul Mullin Conor McAleny Brett Pitman John Akinde Edit: Do you think that a full Joey Barton pre season could bring Ayunga/Hanlan into the realms of bagging 15+ Goals? Certainly shows it’s easier said than done. Our best chance of a 20 goal a season striker is someone who comes in under the radar like JCH did but that won’t keep the fans happy in the short term. I definitely wouldn’t be writing off either Hanlan or Ayunga but think the burden needs to be shared with at least one new signing |
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Post by Jomo on May 27, 2021 9:43:04 GMT
Bang on mate... the list that I put together the other day wasn't really inline with your ask of regular 20 goal a season but as far as some goal scorers it may be a start James Norwood Paul Mullin Conor McAleny Brett Pitman John Akinde Edit: Do you think that a full Joey Barton pre season could bring Ayunga/Hanlan into the realms of bagging 15+ Goals? Certainly shows it’s easier said than done. Our best chance of a 20 goal a season striker is someone who comes in under the radar like JCH did but that won’t keep the fans happy in the short term. I definitely wouldn’t be writing off either Hanlan or Ayunga but think the burden needs to be shared with at least one new signing If Ayunga can come into the new season fully fit, then I fancy him to score plenty in L2. He was near enough unplayable for a brief flurry of games after the Pompey game. I remember him giving the Accy and Charlton defences a torrid time, but he just couldn't find the net. So I completely agree, the burden needs to be shared with a new more experienced striker who has scored goals recently. |
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Post by lpgas1 on May 27, 2021 9:43:08 GMT
Not aimed at you but can anyone on here provide a list of realistic, proven at this level, regular 20 goal a season players who could form a short list? It might make some realise this is going to be difficult - certainly harder than a computer game that many think on here !!! Bang on mate... the list that I put together the other day wasn't really inline with your ask of regular 20 goal a season but as far as some goal scorers it may be a start James Norwood Paul Mullin Conor McAleny Brett Pitman John Akinde Edit: Do you think that a full Joey Barton pre season could bring Ayunga/Hanlan into the realms of bagging 15+ Goals? No thanks to any of them unless it is for 1 year, as for Ayunga and Hanlan. Hanlan I think will chip in 8 or 9 a season, Ayunga, wouldn't be surprised to see him go out on loan |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 27, 2021 9:48:42 GMT
After last season's major squad revamp and the optimism that followed i think most fans will reserve judgement on any signings untill we see them in action. JB has made a good start IMHO and seems to have a useful web of contacts and i believe he will prove to be a good judge of a players ability and there willingness to do the hard miles necessary at the level we find ourselves in.
As far as strikers go it is going to be very hard to find someone who has a proven goal record at our level so he may well have to unearth a gem from somewhere as we have done in the past with Taylor and the like, i would rather that than sign the likes of Pitman. Personally i have not given up on the likes of Daly, Ayunga who may find tier 4 more to there liking especially if we can get off to a good start, i have also not given up on Hanlan if he reverts to his wide position where he was very dangerous with his pace and direct running, so patience is needed and watch this space!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 10:15:21 GMT
Bang on mate... the list that I put together the other day wasn't really inline with your ask of regular 20 goal a season but as far as some goal scorers it may be a start James Norwood Paul Mullin Conor McAleny Brett Pitman John Akinde Edit: Do you think that a full Joey Barton pre season could bring Ayunga/Hanlan into the realms of bagging 15+ Goals? No thanks to any of them unless it is for 1 year, as for Ayunga and Hanlan. Hanlan I think will chip in 8 or 9 a season, Ayunga, wouldn't be surprised to see him go out on loan Who do you suggest we try and sign to solve the striker problem and tick all the boxes? Realistic names only please. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 10:29:25 GMT
No thanks to any of them unless it is for 1 year, as for Ayunga and Hanlan. Hanlan I think will chip in 8 or 9 a season, Ayunga, wouldn't be surprised to see him go out on loan Who do you suggest we try and sign to solve the striker problem and tick all the boxes? Realistic names only please. No chance of Mullin surely - Agent will be phoning around all L1 clubs maybe a few bottom end Championship teams - Would be a huge sell to get him here. Bad Boy Norwood could be a good fit - someone to bully and scare defences maybe create some space for others. Big John Akinde - Will not be surprised to see him here - early success, confidence boost and he could do well. Brett Pitman is still under contract - Connor McAleny - Same as JA - Will not be surprised to see him here . Any two of Norwood , Akinde and McAleny would be fab potentially. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2021 10:34:37 GMT
I can’t help but wonder what level of budget we have & how the BoD and manager plan to shed us of the deadwood, to afford this new striker. I don’t even know the financial rules tbh. Anyone know please ?
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Post by pirate on May 27, 2021 11:11:29 GMT
I can’t help but wonder what level of budget we have & how the BoD and manager plan to shed us of the deadwood, to afford this new striker. I don’t even know the financial rules tbh. Anyone know please ? The rules before the League One and League Two salary cap was scrapped are outlined here: www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php"FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing up club debts. In League 1 and League 2, a wealthy owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in other divisions" |
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