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Post by keith on Aug 22, 2021 6:54:18 GMT
Anyone else would be banned by now but not RD You have only posted 3 times and 3 times you have wummed RD. Anymore and you won’t get to post 10. Consider it a warning. Ok dad
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Post by putterbishopston on Aug 22, 2021 7:02:00 GMT
Main reason we were improved second half is that Exeter sat back and cruised the remainder, even made substitutions to rest a few 'older' players for upcoming games.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 22, 2021 7:02:20 GMT
Guess after today Baldwin won t be in the squad soon, Hughes is looking a dodgy signing too. Sad that we have so many belters following us away from home, they seem more interested in boozing than the football, just don t get it, puts me off going with my son, more than the results. You can pick the fixtures they will attend, Exeter, Newport, Port Vale, Walsall etc, there's little chance of them being at Barrow or any NW club for a mid week game. I can't understand where they appear from as you never see them at the Mem? Probably at the spoons, at Charlton couple of seasons ago , a crowd stood by the metal hut drinking beer with no view of the pitch for all game, I was amazed, why go? If people say we are a nice family club they are sadly deluded, my mate has seen many things but was truly shocked at Mansfield, the unnecessary fighting whilst young kids watched on.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 22, 2021 7:07:21 GMT
As I’ve said before, he will judged on results
At present the defence looks as disoriented and poorly coached as before
It hasn’t helped that the defensive coach has left, maybe he saw the car crash ahead and got out quick. Whatever, we need to start from the back. Playing 3 with one of those Baldwin we are asking for trouble.
All the best teams throughout history have had a base built with defensive partnerships. Barton has had long enough to develop this concept yet here we are not having a clue who will play in the back 3/4/5 every bloody week!! Shambles!!
If we keep conceding soft goals it doesn’t matter how much flair we have up top….. teams will relish playing us as we have no backbone
Barton needs to stop his endless rambles and get them bloody organised on the pitch. Rule number one in football. Be hard to beat.
UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 22, 2021 7:18:29 GMT
Unless Baldwin was causing total confusion in the back 3 he wasn't to blame for at least the first 3 goals yesterday and was also the pick of the back 3 on Tuesday.
JB seems to love his scapegoats and Baldwin seems the latest, problem is for him is he's running out of BG's players to blame.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 22, 2021 7:26:40 GMT
Unless Baldwin was causing total confusion in the back 3 he wasn't to blame for at least the first 3 goals yesterday and was also the pick of the back 3 on Tuesday. JB seems to love his scapegoats and Baldwin seems the latest, problem is for him is he's running out of BG's players to blame. Go look at the player ratings for Baldwin I’m not saying he was to blame for a shambolic team performance, only that he doesn’t inspire any confidence in me when I see his name on the team sheet!
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2021 7:29:16 GMT
Unless Baldwin was causing total confusion in the back 3 he wasn't to blame for at least the first 3 goals yesterday and was also the pick of the back 3 on Tuesday. JB seems to love his scapegoats and Baldwin seems the latest, problem is for him is he's running out of BG's players to blame. Barton's signings Hughes and Anderton were worse in the back 3 yesterday. Anderson also got destroyed time and time again on the left, but more understandable as he was being played out of position. Coutts was also bypassed in midfield far too easily, that after his disastrous start to his Rovers career at Mansfield .
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 22, 2021 7:32:09 GMT
Only reason I’ve even given you the time of day mate is because you were banging on earlier about me being “in love” with Barton etc etc etc. I don’t give a monkeys whether you like the bloke or not, other than the fact that your obvious hatred for him is blinding you to everything else. I don’t care about Barton either way, apart from his being our current manager, so obviously I want him to succeed cos that means we will succeed. But if he doesn’t turn it around I will happily wave goodbye to him without a second thought. But here’s a tip for you: you won’t make a very good grown-up if you can’t deal with people having opinions or views that aren’t the same as yours. And I’ve been using the he/she thing cos I suspect you are the sort of person that speaks and thinks like that and gets sand in their mangina if they’re “misgendered” I'm not a child, so your points about growing up are irrelevant. I am fully capable of having a debate, unfortunately people like yourself resort to being abusive, instead of having a structured debate - as the latter part of your post proves. The real issue here is that I've dared call for Joey's head, following us shipping 4 goals in 25 minutes. Numerous other posters have done the same, but shock horror, the usual suspects have singled me out and given me endless abuse. The problem is, those who are pro Barton don't see posting something negative about Barton as a response - they just see it as an attack. Therefore it's impossible to have a reasoned debate with them because they take it so personally. You demonstrate a massive lack of self-awareness, pal. You attack other posters incessantly, but you feel as though you’re being “singled out” when they respond to you. You insult other posters freely, but call everybody else bullies and complain about receiving “endless abuse”. You talk about yourself having “dared to call for Joeys head” as though that makes you some kind of Saint or crusader, but when someone tries to defend him you respond almost hysterically by denouncing to them as “lovers” or whatever. You don’t appear to have the capacity to engage in reasoned or stuctured debate because, as far as I can see, you are completely unable to accept that other people may hold differing or opposing viewpoints to yours without attacking them for it.
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Post by RD on Aug 22, 2021 7:40:09 GMT
I'm not a child, so your points about growing up are irrelevant. I am fully capable of having a debate, unfortunately people like yourself resort to being abusive, instead of having a structured debate - as the latter part of your post proves. The real issue here is that I've dared call for Joey's head, following us shipping 4 goals in 25 minutes. Numerous other posters have done the same, but shock horror, the usual suspects have singled me out and given me endless abuse. The problem is, those who are pro Barton don't see posting something negative about Barton as a response - they just see it as an attack. Therefore it's impossible to have a reasoned debate with them because they take it so personally. You demonstrate a massive lack of self-awareness, pal. You attack other posters incessantly, but you feel as though you’re being “singled out” when they respond to you. You insult other posters freely, but call everybody else bullies and complain about receiving “endless abuse”. You talk about yourself having “dared to call for Joeys head” as though that makes you some kind of Saint or crusader, but when someone tries to defend him you respond almost hysterically by denouncing to them as “lovers” or whatever. You don’t appear to have the capacity to engage in reasoned or stuctured debate because, as far as I can see, you are completely unable to accept that other people may hold differing or opposing viewpoints to yours without attacking them for it. Talk about lack of awareness. I never singled anyone out yesterday. All I did was denounce Joey and the poor result. Something many, MANY others did. Yet the same two people as always called me up on it and then continued to attack me. That is a fact. I was called a w*nker, the mods had to remove one post from Bideford as it was a tirade of horrendous personal abuse and what have I done? Point out that they are singling me out and therefore are being bullies. That's just a fact. You yourself have even posted abuse at me - what have I done to you? The worst I did was say you love Barton ffs which from your postings and "likes" certainly appears to be the case. If you deny that, so be it. But you're taking umbridge with me for simply thinking it. If I'm wrong, fair enough - who cares? Instead you've gone on to call me he/she like a little child, attempting to antagonise the situation further. In your head though, you've done nothing wrong. As such I would suggest it is you who has no self awareness. The issue here is that if people want to be anti-Barton, they are attacked. Plain and simple.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 22, 2021 7:53:04 GMT
Unless Baldwin was causing total confusion in the back 3 he wasn't to blame for at least the first 3 goals yesterday and was also the pick of the back 3 on Tuesday. JB seems to love his scapegoats and Baldwin seems the latest, problem is for him is he's running out of BG's players to blame. Barton's signings Hughes and Anderton were worse in the back 3 yesterday. Anderson also got destroyed time and time again on the left, but more understandable as he was being played out of position. Coutts was also bypassed in midfield far too easily, that after his disastrous start to his Rovers career at Mansfield . Just watched the highlights back. What an absolutely disgraceful performance that was from Hughes. Not only his effort on all 3 first goals but that last chance where the Exeter lad ran at him his attempt at a tackle was unbelievable. Almost like he had a wager on the lad to score. Shocking. If kilgour or Baldwin had performed like that they would be strung up by joey. He should not be keeping his place in the side after that.
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2021 7:54:10 GMT
Barton's signings Hughes and Anderton were worse in the back 3 yesterday. Anderson also got destroyed time and time again on the left, but more understandable as he was being played out of position. Coutts was also bypassed in midfield far too easily, that after his disastrous start to his Rovers career at Mansfield . Just watched the highlights back. What an absolutely disgraceful performance that was from Hughes. Not only his effort on all 3 first goals but that last chance where the Exeter lad ran at him his attempt at a tackle was unbelievable. Almost like he had a wager on the lad to score. Shocking. If kilgour or Baldwin had performed like that they would be strung up by joey. He should not be keeping his place in the side after that. Was a shockingly bad performance. Kilgour should come back in.
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Post by eastgas on Aug 22, 2021 8:03:17 GMT
Just watched the highlights back. What an absolutely disgraceful performance that was from Hughes. Not only his effort on all 3 first goals but that last chance where the Exeter lad ran at him his attempt at a tackle was unbelievable. Almost like he had a wager on the lad to score. Shocking. If kilgour or Baldwin had performed like that they would be strung up by joey. He should not be keeping his place in the side after that. Was a shockingly bad performance. Kilgour should come back in. There is a shocking lack of pace in this backline again, exactly the same as last season. I still think we need another centre half this window. I think moving Grant into the back 3 is something we have to do, for me he has good positional sense on the pitch and has more pace than our other options.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 22, 2021 8:07:28 GMT
You demonstrate a massive lack of self-awareness, pal. You attack other posters incessantly, but you feel as though you’re being “singled out” when they respond to you. You insult other posters freely, but call everybody else bullies and complain about receiving “endless abuse”. You talk about yourself having “dared to call for Joeys head” as though that makes you some kind of Saint or crusader, but when someone tries to defend him you respond almost hysterically by denouncing to them as “lovers” or whatever. You don’t appear to have the capacity to engage in reasoned or stuctured debate because, as far as I can see, you are completely unable to accept that other people may hold differing or opposing viewpoints to yours without attacking them for it. Talk about lack of awareness. I never singled anyone out yesterday. All I did was denounce Joey and the poor result. Something many, MANY others did. Yet the same two people as always called me up on it and then continued to attack me. That is a fact. I was called a w*nker, the mods had to remove one post from Bideford as it was a tirade of horrendous personal abuse and what have I done? Point out that they are singling me out and therefore are being bullies. That's just a fact. You yourself have even posted abuse at me - what have I done to you? The worst I did was say you love Barton ffs which from your postings and "likes" certainly appears to be the case. If you deny that, so be it. But you're taking umbridge with me for simply thinking it. If I'm wrong, fair enough - who cares? Instead you've gone on to call me he/she like a little child, attempting to antagonise the situation further. In your head though, you've done nothing wrong. As such I would suggest it is you who has no self awareness. The issue here is that if people want to be anti-Barton, they are attacked. Plain and simple. Sorry mate, but I don’t agree - everyone is free to hold whatever opinions they like. As far as Barton is concerned, I personally don’t like or dislike him. I’ve never met the bloke and I have no idea what he’s actually like in real life. I just want him to make our club a success. If he can’t turn it around then he should (quite rightly) f**k off or be sacked. And FYI, I have liked posts defending him and I have liked posts criticising him. If you have genuinely received personal abuse from other posters for merely expressing an opinion different from theirs, then they absolutely should be censured for that. But you should also be aware that you can come across sometimes as someone who will shout “Bully!” at someone who is just simply disagreeing with you. And by the way, I used he/she when referring to you because I genuinely don’t know if you are male or female - I’ve never met you and some people get upset by that sort of thing.
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2021 8:07:34 GMT
Was a shockingly bad performance. Kilgour should come back in. There is a shocking lack of pace in this backline again, exactly the same as last season. I still think we need another centre half this window. I think moving Grant into the back 3 is something we have to do, for me he has good positional sense on the pitch and has more pace than our other options. Definitely agree we need another centre half. The lack of pace is glaringly obvious. Moving Grant into defence has to be worth a try, he couldn't do much worse than what we saw yesterday in the first half.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 22, 2021 8:11:48 GMT
And by the way, I used he/she when referring to you because I genuinely don’t know if you are male or female - I’ve never met you and some people get upset by that sort of thing. You said "I suspect you are the sort of person that speaks and thinks like that and gets sand in their mangina if they’re “misgendered”" coz you didn't want to upset him?
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Post by Gassy on Aug 22, 2021 8:14:06 GMT
There is a shocking lack of pace in this backline again, exactly the same as last season. I still think we need another centre half this window. I think moving Grant into the back 3 is something we have to do, for me he has good positional sense on the pitch and has more pace than our other options. Definitely agree we need another centre half. The lack of pace is glaringly obvious. Moving Grant into defence has to be worth a try, he couldn't do much worse than what we saw yesterday in the first half. But then who do we put in midfield?
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 22, 2021 8:16:51 GMT
Was a shockingly bad performance. Kilgour should come back in. There is a shocking lack of pace in this backline again, exactly the same as last season. I still think we need another centre half this window. I think moving Grant into the back 3 is something we have to do, for me he has good positional sense on the pitch and has more pace than our other options. I agree. His backline recruitment is costing him. We don’t have any out and out full backs who are any good or with pace. I’m not convinced at all that anderton is a left back. He’s big slow and ponderous. A typical centre half that we sign. Clarke’s a wing back and hooles not ready yet IMO. Not only do we need a decent centre half with pace the full back positions need sorting as well. Unless he plans on playing 3 at the back all season. An absolute mess.
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2021 8:20:42 GMT
Definitely agree we need another centre half. The lack of pace is glaringly obvious. Moving Grant into defence has to be worth a try, he couldn't do much worse than what we saw yesterday in the first half. But then who do we put in midfield? If fit Martinez could do a job until we sign someone better. Otherwise the options are lacking in fairness.
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2021 8:21:29 GMT
There is a shocking lack of pace in this backline again, exactly the same as last season. I still think we need another centre half this window. I think moving Grant into the back 3 is something we have to do, for me he has good positional sense on the pitch and has more pace than our other options. I agree. His backline recruitment is costing him. We don’t have any out and out full backs who are any good or with pace. I’m not convinced at all that anderton is a left back. He’s big slow and ponderous. A typical centre half that we sign. Clarke’s a wing back and hooles not ready yet IMO. Not only do we need a decent centre half with pace the full back positions need sorting as well. Unless he plans on playing 3 at the back all season. An absolute mess. Spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 8:22:50 GMT
Mark Hughes what an awful performance. There was one chance that Exeter missed during the first half where Hughes completely lost his man who then had a free header on goal. Hughes then turned to Belshaw and started having a go at him?! Take some responsibility you prat!
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