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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2021 22:25:32 GMT
This smells of last January when we missed out on Stockley and we all know what happened after that Yep , I bet we’re being played along by a couple of strikers. We think they’re in the bag , choice one and choice two…… neither will sign and we’ll do a last minute desperation signing ( Payne) or claim no one was available better than we already had in the building and we’ll look to the loan market. UTG The loan market for this window ends on 31st too.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 27, 2021 22:28:19 GMT
Yep , I bet we’re being played along by a couple of strikers. We think they’re in the bag , choice one and choice two…… neither will sign and we’ll do a last minute desperation signing ( Payne) or claim no one was available better than we already had in the building and we’ll look to the loan market. UTG The loan market for this window ends on 31st too. Oops 😬
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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2021 22:30:39 GMT
The loan market for this window ends on 31st too. Oops 😬 It will be oops if we don't get a couple in.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 27, 2021 23:00:11 GMT
It will be oops if we don't get a couple in.
Based on his recruitment at Fleetwood, and some of his comments since he took over last season, surely he's going to want an established number 9? They seem to be a bit scarce at the moment - do you think one 'name' and a 'prospect' loan from somewhere further up?
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Post by yattongas on Aug 27, 2021 23:03:49 GMT
It will be oops if we don't get a couple in.
Based on his recruitment at Fleetwood, and some of his comments since he took over last season, surely he's going to want an established number 9? They seem to be a bit scarce at the moment - do you think one 'name' and a 'prospect' loan from somewhere further up?
I’m thinking more basement basket
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Post by frattonender on Aug 27, 2021 23:07:16 GMT
Based on his recruitment at Fleetwood, and some of his comments since he took over last season, surely he's going to want an established number 9? They seem to be a bit scarce at the moment - do you think one 'name' and a 'prospect' loan from somewhere further up?
I’m thinking more basement basket
I'd presume that given you've recouped the outlay on Hanlan and his wages that you'll be able to replace, given the manager suggested there was no desire to lose the player? If that's the case there must be some leeway to either pay a moderate fee; or offset that and bring someone relatively special in on a higher wage for the rest of the season, or even on a two-year deal?
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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2021 23:18:22 GMT
It will be oops if we don't get a couple in.
Based on his recruitment at Fleetwood, and some of his comments since he took over last season, surely he's going to want an established number 9? They seem to be a bit scarce at the moment - do you think one 'name' and a 'prospect' loan from somewhere further up?
Wouldn't surprise me if it's Leon Clarke and a loan from somewhere.
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Post by chilly1883 on Aug 28, 2021 6:14:29 GMT
Just announce Leon Clarke on a 3 year contract, then we can start crying, saying that we’ll never get a season ticket again.
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Post by oldie on Aug 28, 2021 6:39:48 GMT
Just announce Leon Clarke on a 3 year contract, then we can start crying, saying that we’ll never get a season ticket again. On a more serious note, this erosion of hope is almost certain to have an impact on support levels.
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Post by gasify on Aug 28, 2021 7:28:36 GMT
As a self identified JB hater, I'm not too sure I can get my hatred of the man into this thread. With Hanlan, the only thing I can say is that JB has watered him about a bit:
Your 20 goal a season Your sh** I'm getting my own players in and cutting out the cancer in the club.
If we had a boss who did that, we would be looking for a new job too.
However, I do think that us as fans have visions of grandeur. We may even have a reputation for destroying strikers in the industry.
JB has probably done his best in getting some change to the club with Clarke, not sure any other manager could do much else.
sh**, it sounds like I am defending him now.
The fact that we are using terms like typical Rovers, leaving it late. The fact that the last 4 managers have been in the same situation shows that unfortunately I can't put the blame at JB door. I am going to blame the agents, playing one club against another.
Anyway, back to matchday. #JBOUT
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Post by oldie on Aug 28, 2021 7:59:08 GMT
As a self identified JB hater, I'm not too sure I can get my hatred of the man into this thread. With Hanlan, the only thing I can say is that JB has P?!sed him about a bit: Your 20 goal a season Your sh** I'm getting my own players in and cutting out the cancer in the club. If we had a boss who did that, we would be looking for a new job too. However, I do think that us as fans have visions of grandeur. We may even have a reputation for destroying strikers in the industry. JB has probably done his best in getting some change to the club with Clarke, not sure any other manager could do much else. sh**, it sounds like I am defending him now. The fact that we are using terms like typical Rovers, leaving it late. The fact that the last 4 managers have been in the same situation shows that unfortunately I can't put the blame at JB door. I am going to blame the agents, playing one club against another. Anyway, back to matchday. #JBOUT I agree to an extent There is a general malaise at the club which pre dates Barton. But his problem is that he gave it large and has delivered nothing. That's his problem, one entirely of his own making . A more thoughtful character might have seized the opportunity to construct a longer term vision for the club. One which, we the supporters, might well have bought in to. He did not, has not, in fact he has doubled down. A disaster.
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Post by Gasshole on Aug 28, 2021 8:05:34 GMT
Well United have got Ronaldo back , is it time for the snake to return ?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 28, 2021 8:08:07 GMT
fact that we are using terms like typical Rovers, leaving it late. The fact that the last 4 managers have been in the same situation shows that unfortunately I can't put the blame at JB door. I am going to blame the agents, playing one club against another. Anyway, back to matchday. #JBOUT Errr GC didn’t seem to have a problem bringing in JCH.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 28, 2021 8:21:53 GMT
If Barton really believed Hanlan was a 20 goal striker then we never would have let him go for £150k.
That said, he must be bloody confident of bringing someone in
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 8:24:38 GMT
If Barton really believed Hanlan was a 20 goal striker then we never would have let him go for £150k. That said, he must be bloody confident of bringing someone in If he fails then he really will have lost any of the dregs of respect i still have for him. Leon Clarke certainly is not the answer !!.... but I sense that is who we will be told is the answer to our sterility in front of goal.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 28, 2021 8:34:46 GMT
As a self identified JB hater, I'm not too sure I can get my hatred of the man into this thread. With Hanlan, the only thing I can say is that JB has P?!sed him about a bit: Your 20 goal a season Your sh** I'm getting my own players in and cutting out the cancer in the club. If we had a boss who did that, we would be looking for a new job too. However, I do think that us as fans have visions of grandeur. We may even have a reputation for destroying strikers in the industry. JB has probably done his best in getting some change to the club with Clarke, not sure any other manager could do much else. sh**, it sounds like I am defending him now. The fact that we are using terms like typical Rovers, leaving it late. The fact that the last 4 managers have been in the same situation shows that unfortunately I can't put the blame at JB door. I am going to blame the agents, playing one club against another. Anyway, back to matchday. #JBOUT I agree to an extent There is a general malaise at the club which pre dates Barton. But his problem is that he gave it large and has delivered nothing. That's his problem, one entirely of his own making . A more thoughtful character might have seized the opportunity to construct a longer term vision for the club. One which, we the supporters, might well have bought in to. He did not, has not, in fact he has doubled down. A disaster. But that’s the problem isn’t it?? Supporters now simply don’t tolerate long term visions We embarked upon a completely new course under Garner, and here we are now having ripped it up and looking more of a mess than ever. Barton’s claims are bold and either reek of pure confidence or pure desperation Only results will tell, and so far things are not looking great If no striker is lined up I think we are looking weaker than last season And that’s some feat!! UTG
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Post by plymouthgas on Aug 28, 2021 8:44:29 GMT
fact that we are using terms like typical Rovers, leaving it late. The fact that the last 4 managers have been in the same situation shows that unfortunately I can't put the blame at JB door. I am going to blame the agents, playing one club against another. Anyway, back to matchday. #JBOUT Errr GC didn’t seem to have a problem bringing in JCH. Pretty poor example. JCH was a last second signing of a striker with a poor record, who 90% of the fanbase complained about. IMO we got lucky with him. If we sign a striker with a similar record on the 31st, there will be meltdowns all over the place
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Post by LJG on Aug 28, 2021 8:54:04 GMT
Errr GC didn’t seem to have a problem bringing in JCH. Pretty poor example. JCH was a last second signing of a striker with a poor record, who 90% of the fanbase complained about. IMO we got lucky with him. If we sign a striker with a similar record on the 31st, there will be meltdowns all over the place Not that bad an example - JCH scored 24 in 42 for us in the league, went on to be Lg 1 top scorer and now plays in the Championship. So as a counter to the point that 4 managers have struggled to identify and sign good players the fact GC brought in JCH is a pretty good example. Another example of GC's "luck". He must have been the "luckiest" football manager in the history of the world with all the things that get attributed to "luck" on his record.
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Post by plymouthgas on Aug 28, 2021 8:58:13 GMT
Pretty poor example. JCH was a last second signing of a striker with a poor record, who 90% of the fanbase complained about. IMO we got lucky with him. If we sign a striker with a similar record on the 31st, there will be meltdowns all over the place Not that bad an example - JCH scored 24 in 42 for us in the league, went on to be Lg 1 top scorer and now plays in the Championship. So as a counter to the point that 4 managers have struggled to identify and sign good players the fact GC brought in JCH is a pretty good example. Another example of GC's "luck". He must have been the "luckiest" football manager in the history of the world with all the things that get attributed to "luck" on his record. Great record for us, not denying that. Record before, not so great. Thats my point. He signed very late on deadline day with a pretty poor record. The exact kind of signing the original post i replied to was complaining about
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 28, 2021 9:49:00 GMT
Regardless of GC'S luck, which ran out when he left us, finding JCH was a good spot , his record pre Rovers was not great, so GC deserves some credit for seeing his potential, similar to Taylor who was far from prolific pre Rovers and was a good spot by DC., i just do not want us to make a panic signing aka Payne and the like!
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