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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2021 20:07:57 GMT
Jesus I think I just agreed with one of your memes. He's been a disaster. A Starney special. Not my meme, found it on twitter. But deary me, what shocking stats. Horrific.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 29, 2021 7:44:53 GMT
What's the win percentage now? And the excuses are running out. Swindon making a mockery out of the idea that it takes months to gel etc. Peterborough every season in L1 also confirm that wholesale changes don't mean an automatic 2-3 month handicap either. I've never actually called for a manager to be sacked and I'm not doing it now, but I'm at the point where this club are indefensible in their incompetence and it's *ing embarrassing. I've had enough. The reason I'm not calling for Barton to be sacked is that I'm beyond caring at this point. Sad state of affairs.
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Post by falsenumber9 on Aug 29, 2021 7:58:43 GMT
What's the win percentage now? And the excuses are running out. Swindon making a mockery out of the idea that it takes months to gel etc. Peterborough every season in L1 also confirm that wholesale changes don't mean an automatic 2-3 month handicap either. I've never actually called for a manager to be sacked and I'm not doing it now, but I'm at the point where this club are indefensible in their incompetence and it's *ing embarrassing. I've had enough. The reason I'm not calling for Barton to be sacked is that I'm beyond caring at this point. Sad state of affairs. On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me"
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Post by oldie on Aug 29, 2021 8:10:14 GMT
Peterborough every season in L1 also confirm that wholesale changes don't mean an automatic 2-3 month handicap either. I've never actually called for a manager to be sacked and I'm not doing it now, but I'm at the point where this club are indefensible in their incompetence and it's *ing embarrassing. I've had enough. The reason I'm not calling for Barton to be sacked is that I'm beyond caring at this point. Sad state of affairs. On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Strange isn't it. How everyone can see it except our own directors.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2021 8:20:58 GMT
Peterborough every season in L1 also confirm that wholesale changes don't mean an automatic 2-3 month handicap either. I've never actually called for a manager to be sacked and I'm not doing it now, but I'm at the point where this club are indefensible in their incompetence and it's *ing embarrassing. I've had enough. The reason I'm not calling for Barton to be sacked is that I'm beyond caring at this point. Sad state of affairs. On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Seriously he'd back a manager over the summer and then sack him after a couple of games, the bloke's talking is usual BS.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 29, 2021 8:25:43 GMT
On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Seriously he'd back a manager over the summer and then sack him after a couple of games, the bloke's talking is usual BS. I think he’s trying to say that he’d have sacked him in the summer.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 29, 2021 8:28:02 GMT
Thought it was a WWE screenshot for a second! Three of theirs all piling into our smallest player. How very brave. Barrow really must be a town of thugs. Their fans expect the red to be rescinded after we threw ourselves to the floor diving and their player was only running in to break up a fight. After our last trip to Barrow, their player got sent to prison for assaulting Rigg on the pitch. What an awful place it must be to live.
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Post by LJG on Aug 29, 2021 8:32:25 GMT
On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Seriously he'd back a manager over the summer and then sack him after a couple of games, the bloke's talking is usual BS. Where does he say he'd have backed him over the summer? He says "he would have been gone already".
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Post by trevorgas on Aug 29, 2021 8:35:43 GMT
Three of theirs all piling into our smallest player. How very brave. Barrow really must be a town of thugs. Their fans expect the red to be rescinded after we threw ourselves to the floor diving and their player was only running in to break up a fight. After our last trip to Barrow, their player got sent to prison for assaulting Rigg on the pitch. What an awful place it must be to live. It's a sh.thole at the end of a cul de sac deeply depressing in the depths of winter on a grey drizzly day.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 29, 2021 8:37:04 GMT
On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Strange isn't it. How everyone can see it except our own directors. I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 29, 2021 8:48:26 GMT
I will start by saying that I do not think now is the time to sack JB. I am now firmly off the fence, and I am looking forward to the day he is no longer our manager. This opinion is based solely on the performance of the football team. He needs to go. The longer we wait, the less chance of promotion this season. That is my opinion. The standout item from the radio commentary was when our midfielders had the ball and were preparing to attack but "did not know what to do with the ball". It seems to me that the players do not have a basic gameplan to follow. Yes, the players are not fit, but they do not appear to know what JB wants them to do. There appears (from my limited knowledge) to be a tactical deficiency within the team. I do not blame the players for this at all. This lies solely at the manager's door. For that reason (in addition to the truly awful record), he has to go (and will most likely be gone by Christmas). We drew with a very poor Barrow team, who were down to 10 men for over an hour and ACTUALLY PLAYED BETTER THAN US IN THE SECOND HALF. How is that possible? Much as I want Bristol Rovers to be successful, JB needs to be given time to PROVE BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT that he is not capable (I think we are there already). Then we can sack him with the whole fanbase united behind the decision. Very, very disappointing. I think some of the confusion as to what to do is a lack of cohesion between the players more than tactical issues. The players are still settling in and don’t necessarily have that natural instinct as to who’s going to go where. And as we all know we tend to struggle against 10 men for some reason. I don’t believe that it’s anything to do with our club necessary but more a long term symptom that a number of our squads have seemed to have struggled with. (Not that I’ve not had enough also!)
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 29, 2021 8:51:17 GMT
On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Strange isn't it. How everyone can see it except our own directors. To be fair, McAnthony is on the brutal end of the scale. I know we’ve gone 3 managers in but Wael / Starnes are at the opposite end. They’ve given at least two of those managers too long IMO and arguably the latter two of the three wouldn’t have been needed if they had just got rid of Garnish in the first summer.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Aug 29, 2021 8:51:51 GMT
Strange isn't it. How everyone can see it except our own directors. I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager. I think you need to read the OP on willing to be patient thread. We can see as much you, but unlike you have a little more patience. Sacking him now does not stack in my openion as changing things again when we are only 5 games in, just stacks of panic. Now will it be successful, who knows, but let's at least give 10 to 15 games.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 29, 2021 9:09:23 GMT
I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager. I think you need to read the OP on willing to be patient thread. We can see as much you, but unlike you have a little more patience. Sacking him now does not stack in my openion as changing things again when we are only 5 games in, just stacks of panic. Now will it be successful, who knows, but let's at least give 10 to 15 games. I'm not suggesting that there is a correlation between those who can tell JB is full of sh** and those who want him sacked. Also not sure why you think I don't have patience. I've already said it won't make sense sacking JB this early, in the same way I was one of the few people on here saying that we'd sacked BG too early.
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Post by LJG on Aug 29, 2021 9:15:06 GMT
I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager. I think you need to read the OP on willing to be patient thread. We can see as much you, but unlike you have a little more patience. Sacking him now does not stack in my openion as changing things again when we are only 5 games in, just stacks of panic. Now will it be successful, who knows, but let's at least give 10 to 15 games. Funny how that "give him ten games" number keeps going up. First it's ten, now we've played 5 someone yesterday was saying 5 - 8 more, so 10-13. Now it's 10-15. I wonder what it will creep up to if we're crap again next week. Blimey it really is like being stuck in a time warp. I could've copied and pasted that post from the start of last season.
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Post by dragonfly on Aug 29, 2021 10:30:40 GMT
I will start by saying that I do not think now is the time to sack JB. I am now firmly off the fence, and I am looking forward to the day he is no longer our manager. This opinion is based solely on the performance of the football team. He needs to go. The longer we wait, the less chance of promotion this season. That is my opinion. The standout item from the radio commentary was when our midfielders had the ball and were preparing to attack but "did not know what to do with the ball". It seems to me that the players do not have a basic gameplan to follow. Yes, the players are not fit, but they do not appear to know what JB wants them to do. There appears (from my limited knowledge) to be a tactical deficiency within the team. I do not blame the players for this at all. This lies solely at the manager's door. For that reason (in addition to the truly awful record), he has to go (and will most likely be gone by Christmas). We drew with a very poor Barrow team, who were down to 10 men for over an hour and ACTUALLY PLAYED BETTER THAN US IN THE SECOND HALF. How is that possible? Much as I want Bristol Rovers to be successful, JB needs to be given time to PROVE BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT that he is not capable (I think we are there already). Then we can sack him with the whole fanbase united behind the decision. Very, very disappointing. I think some of the confusion as to what to do is a lack of cohesion between the players more than tactical issues. The players are still settling in and don’t necessarily have that natural instinct as to who’s going to go where. And as we all know we tend to struggle against 10 men for some reason. I don’t believe that it’s anything to do with our club necessary but more a long term symptom that a number of our squads have seemed to have struggled with. (Not that I’ve not had enough also!) Whereas when we go down to 10 men the opposition tend to score within minutes. We do not seem to have the ability to defend against anyone.
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Post by bluegas on Aug 29, 2021 10:43:25 GMT
Peterborough every season in L1 also confirm that wholesale changes don't mean an automatic 2-3 month handicap either. I've never actually called for a manager to be sacked and I'm not doing it now, but I'm at the point where this club are indefensible in their incompetence and it's *ing embarrassing. I've had enough. The reason I'm not calling for Barton to be sacked is that I'm beyond caring at this point. Sad state of affairs. On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Just out of casual interest - why is McAnthony passing comment on Bristol Rovers? Not saying he shouldn't, but what interest is it to him?
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Post by Marshy on Aug 29, 2021 10:47:28 GMT
On the subject of Peterborough, it's interesting to hear what their owner Darragh McAnthony said after our loss against Stevenage re: Barton. "Bristol Rovers are in disarray" "I'm not sure what's going on there or what they are waiting for" "He would have been gone already for me" Just out of casual interest - why is McAnthony passing comment on Bristol Rovers? Not saying he shouldn't, but what interest is it to him? He likes doing transfer business with us because we are clueless mugs.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2021 11:20:50 GMT
Strange isn't it. How everyone can see it except our own directors. I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager. Aren't all managers bullshitters doesn't that just go with the job? Both DC and GC talked about us signing "marquee" players and "big, big names" in the past, when they both must have known they only had a limited budget to spend.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 29, 2021 11:32:00 GMT
I genuinely can't tell whether they can see it, and feel they've painted themselves into a corner where they just can't sack any more managers, or they believe the sort of bullshit that JB spouts. It was pretty clear to me that JB was a bullshitter after about three or four weeks here, some would have worked it out before, some later, but there also seems to be some who really can't tell. Another reasonable interpretation, istm, is that people realise he's a bullshitter but don't consider that an important factor in judging a manager. Aren't all managers bullshitters doesn't that just go with the job? Both DC and GC talked about us signing "marquee" players and "big, big names" in the past, when they both must have known they only had a limited budget to spend. Yeah, of course. I should have phrased that better. But there's useful bullshit and idle bullshit. Istm the best managers are good at saying what is good for their team, the right bullshit at the right time. And bad ones, for whatever reason, sometimes find themselves coming out with counter-productive stuff. Look at the bullshit Sir Alex used to come out with. I bet he used to think very carefully about what he was gonna bullshit us with and he usually kept it vaguely credible. It feels like Joey just says the first thing that comes into his head.
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