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Post by richhertford on Sept 5, 2021 14:36:04 GMT
Depends on whether someone has a closed mind or not You think? But in any event suggesting we all read a book written by this man on the basis of some amateur hour theories expressed within it, without any supporting evidence, is...equally nonsensical. I’ve concluded that a small number of posters on here sit by their keyboards (seemingly hourly) identifying opportunities to open up debate or disagree with other posters as a form of personal entertainment. It’s a bit tiresome. How much fun is that, really?
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Post by yetigas on Sept 5, 2021 14:40:14 GMT
Back 3 still learning. Clean sheet. Agreed, but I suspect that the problem appears more widespread than the back 3. I did not rate Garner but his Team have not needed to do an awful lot of learning or gelling to get off to a decent start. I did rate Garner and the fact that Swindon are doing well comes as no surprise to me. So many people have said what a good coach Garner is....I have yet to hear that said about JB!!
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Post by yetigas on Sept 5, 2021 14:44:10 GMT
Its September Why are the players not fit? Because we had 3 separate self isolations due to positive covid tests which took out half the squad each time. We had 2 or 3 pre season games cancelled which took match minutes out the squad. Didn't Covid affect Crawley as well? Seems like a lame excuse to me - JB is free to pick the players who are fit as I assume Crawley did.
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Post by Langford Gas on Sept 5, 2021 14:51:54 GMT
Depends on whether someone has a closed mind or not You think? But in any event suggesting we all read a book written by this man on the basis of some amateur hour theories expressed within it, without any supporting evidence, is...equally nonsensical. As i qualified therapist i can tell you there is a lot of case study evidence , thankyou for answering the question
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 5, 2021 14:55:18 GMT
For me the biggest thing i took away from yesterday was that last season we would have lost that game by a wide margin, this group of players left nothing out there and i truly believe they played to keep their shirt. No one could be accused of giving less than 100% and any critisism of any individual would be unfair, that in my book makes us fair and worthy winners. Evans i thought grew into the game and got better as the game progressed and i think when fully up to speed will be a very important player for us, we now have clarke and pitman who could play a half each with players with pace around them. Finlay is the heart beat and good to watch plus we always seem to have a strong bench. I think the future is bright but still a little way in the distance. On a different note, the comments about JB promising promotion, if anyone has access to his book read the bit about his conversation with Peter Schnichael and the psychologists amongst us will understand. Yes I recommend the Joey book. Absolutely a must read for people looking to understand Joey as opposed to judging him. Really great read. Thoroughly enjoyed his book. Very interesting and insightful with regards his upbringing. The only thing confusing within is his reference to playing 5 / 3 at the back. He is very uncomplimentary about it when describing managers who have made his side play that formation in the past and calls it a formation just to get you out of trouble when you hit rock bottom to dig out results but no good long term. Maybe he’s changed his mind in the 4 years since the book or he’s using it to get out of league 2? Be really interesting to get his take on it. Maybe one for Sam frost to ask him.
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Post by oldie on Sept 5, 2021 15:07:53 GMT
You think? But in any event suggesting we all read a book written by this man on the basis of some amateur hour theories expressed within it, without any supporting evidence, is...equally nonsensical. As i qualified therapist i can tell you there is a lot of case study evidence , thankyou for answering the question That's excellent. What is it?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 5, 2021 15:30:29 GMT
Its September Why are the players not fit? Because we had 3 separate self isolations due to positive covid tests which took out half the squad each time. We had 2 or 3 pre season games cancelled which took match minutes out the squad. That's no excuse, the Olympic and Paralympic athletes proved that. Other than the Swansea game what other games were cancelled? Nothing to stop the squad playing competitive matches on the superb training pitch instead of playing pre season games?
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Post by Langford Gas on Sept 5, 2021 16:23:01 GMT
As i qualified therapist i can tell you there is a lot of case study evidence , thankyou for answering the question That's excellent. What is it? I can give you a number and my receptionist will make an appointment, the initial consultation is £50 and £100 per hour for treatment thereafter, i believe there is some limited availability early december
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Post by yattongas on Sept 5, 2021 16:30:19 GMT
Yes I recommend the Joey book. Absolutely a must read for people looking to understand Joey as opposed to judging him. Really great read. Thoroughly enjoyed his book. Very interesting and insightful with regards his upbringing. The only thing confusing within is his reference to playing 5 / 3 at the back. He is very uncomplimentary about it when describing managers who have made his side play that formation in the past and calls it a formation just to get you out of trouble when you hit rock bottom to dig out results but no good long term. Maybe he’s changed his mind in the 4 years since the book or he’s using it to get out of league 2? Be really interesting to get his take on it. Maybe one for Sam frost to ask him. Isn’t that exactly the position we’re in ? We’re in trouble ( got relegated, poor start ) and we desperately need some results. Horses for courses
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2021 16:40:51 GMT
You think? But in any event suggesting we all read a book written by this man on the basis of some amateur hour theories expressed within it, without any supporting evidence, is...equally nonsensical. As i qualified therapist i can tell you there is a lot of case study evidence , thankyou for answering the question If your therapy is as bad as your grammar I wouldn't pay you diddly squat.
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Post by oldie on Sept 5, 2021 16:41:15 GMT
That's excellent. What is it? I can give you a number and my receptionist will make an appointment, the initial consultation is £50 and £100 per hour for treatment thereafter, i believe there is some limited availability early december Ha ha Deflection as a tactic of avoidance. I am sure you have a term for that?
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 5, 2021 16:46:33 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed his book. Very interesting and insightful with regards his upbringing. The only thing confusing within is his reference to playing 5 / 3 at the back. He is very uncomplimentary about it when describing managers who have made his side play that formation in the past and calls it a formation just to get you out of trouble when you hit rock bottom to dig out results but no good long term. Maybe he’s changed his mind in the 4 years since the book or he’s using it to get out of league 2? Be really interesting to get his take on it. Maybe one for Sam frost to ask him. Isn’t that exactly the position we’re in ? We’re in trouble ( got relegated, poor start ) and we desperately need some results. Horses for courses I agree partially but with a clean slate / clear out and his own choice of player recruitment he has chosen to recruit with the back 5/3 as his preferred choice. He could quite easily have recruited for a back 4. Something has obviously changed his opinion since 2017. He certainly isn’t playing the back 3 due to the poor start. It was his plan since June.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2021 17:44:34 GMT
Pretty certain he suggested that he had played that formation at Fleetwood as well.
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Post by playtowin on Sept 5, 2021 17:56:08 GMT
Because we had 3 separate self isolations due to positive covid tests which took out half the squad each time. We had 2 or 3 pre season games cancelled which took match minutes out the squad. Didn't Covid affect Crawley as well? Seems like a lame excuse to me - JB is free to pick the players who are fit as I assume Crawley did. Covid aside. Morris,davies,francombe,craig,powell,hessenthaler,frost,ashford,nichols (9 of the starting 11 were at the club last season) tsaroulla and payne are new additions. Of the subs. Nadesan was there last season .appiah and battle are new to their squad. So a settled side. Rovers had nicholson,kilgour,harries,grant from last season (who started) with the subs who came on being newbies. With only kilgour remaining from the team that were sat in 4th spot in league one. A side still settling.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 5, 2021 21:19:30 GMT
Didn't Covid affect Crawley as well? Seems like a lame excuse to me - JB is free to pick the players who are fit as I assume Crawley did. Covid aside. Morris,davies,francombe,craig,powell,hessenthaler,frost,ashford,nichols (9 of the starting 11 were at the club last season) tsaroulla and payne are new additions. Of the subs. Nadesan was there last season .appiah and battle are new to their squad. So a settled side. Rovers had nicholson,kilgour,harries,grant from last season (who started) with the subs who came on being newbies. With only kilgour remaining from the team that were sat in 4th spot in league one. A side still settling. I was not commenting on the continuity of players, but on the issue of fitness raised by woolavingtonpirate. I get that its a side still settling, but that does not explain why we should be less fit than Crawley.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 5, 2021 21:24:58 GMT
For me the biggest thing i took away from yesterday was that last season we would have lost that game by a wide margin, this group of players left nothing out there and i truly believe they played to keep their shirt. No one could be accused of giving less than 100% and any critisism of any individual would be unfair, that in my book makes us fair and worthy winners. Evans i thought grew into the game and got better as the game progressed and i think when fully up to speed will be a very important player for us, we now have clarke and pitman who could play a half each with players with pace around them. Finlay is the heart beat and good to watch plus we always seem to have a strong bench. I think the future is bright but still a little way in the distance. On a different note, the comments about JB promising promotion, if anyone has access to his book read the bit about his conversation with Peter Schnichael and the psychologists amongst us will understand. Didn't JB also promise us that we would not be relegated last season (at least until he gave up)? I think he would be wise not to promise anything except to stay out of trouble!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2021 21:44:15 GMT
Covid aside. Morris,davies,francombe,craig,powell,hessenthaler,frost,ashford,nichols (9 of the starting 11 were at the club last season) tsaroulla and payne are new additions. Of the subs. Nadesan was there last season .appiah and battle are new to their squad. So a settled side. Rovers had nicholson,kilgour,harries,grant from last season (who started) with the subs who came on being newbies. With only kilgour remaining from the team that were sat in 4th spot in league one. A side still settling. I was not commenting on the continuity of players, but on the issue of fitness raised by woolavingtonpirate. I get that its a side still settling, but that does not explain why we should be less fit than Crawley. How can anybody work out we were less fit than Crawley without having full access to the GPS records? Less match sharp maybe, but that's not a fitness issue. Next week will be a real test as we have another full week on the training ground so we should, hopefully, see a vast improvement on our last 2 away performances. Although how long did Bolton take last season to hit top gear?
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Post by gasify on Sept 5, 2021 22:18:06 GMT
Does my memory serve me right? Was it Leon Clarke who took a dislike to Paulo Di Caneo, when at Swindon for being blamed for missing a chance. Was Di Caneo a bit too physical in his criticism ? Found it! Isn't Paulo Di Caneo a fascist w**ker?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 6, 2021 8:30:13 GMT
Does my memory serve me right? Was it Leon Clarke who took a dislike to Paulo Di Caneo, when at Swindon for being blamed for missing a chance. Was Di Caneo a bit too physical in his criticism ? Found it! Isn't Paulo Di Caneo a fascist w**ker? Yes. He publicly supported a far right Italian party over 15years ago.
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Post by pirate on Sept 6, 2021 9:10:05 GMT
Isn't Paulo Di Caneo a fascist w**ker? Yes. He publicly supported a far right Italian party over 15years ago. And was sacked by Sky Sports Italia 4 years ago for sporting a short-sleeved T-shirt, which showed off a Benito Mussolini-inspired tattoo.
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