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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 18, 2021 8:04:57 GMT
We needed a bit of experience in certain areas. No mention of us putting our a young team, for a few games in a row though I see??? In one league match, we had two outfield player’s over 24! One was 26 and the other just turned 29. In the trophy match, of the 14 player’s that took part, it was the same two that were over 24! It’s inaccurate that we have an old squad now. The majority of our new signings and squad are of a decent age. The problem is, we have not been good enough so far. Signings look worse, as we had such a shortage before. The average age of the squad isn't really the issue. The advanced age of the players brought in to fill key positions is. Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that.
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Post by RD on Sept 18, 2021 8:26:32 GMT
The average age of the squad isn't really the issue. The advanced age of the players brought in to fill key positions is. Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yet if we started our two key players up top, we'd have a combined aged of well over 70 leading the line. Ludicrous.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 8:30:34 GMT
The average age of the squad isn't really the issue. The advanced age of the players brought in to fill key positions is. Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 18, 2021 9:09:07 GMT
Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. But who's fault is it we could only sign 30+ year olds, I can't really see JB signing them if he could sign under 30 year olds, so it must come down to lack of finance from Wael. There's always the chance they wouldn't sign because of the JB factor but that hasn't stopped all the other's signing and I'm sure if we offered them a few £'s more they'd soon forget who was our manager. That £800K(?) JB says was cut from the wage bill this season had to be made somewhere. I see Ayunga's been out injured for a few weeks again so signing a younger striker is no guarantee they'll remain fit.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 9:13:14 GMT
Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. But who's fault is it we could only sign 30+ year olds, I can't really see JB signing them if he could sign under 30 year olds, so it must come down to lack of finance from Wael. There's always the chance they wouldn't sign because of the JB factor but that hasn't stopped all the other's signing and I'm sure if we offered them a few £'s more they'd soon forget who was our manager. That £800K(?) JB says was cut from the wage bill this season had to be made somewhere. I see Ayunga's been out injured for a few weeks again so signing a younger striker is no guarantee they'll remain fit. So despite JB saying the owner has backed him and he's solely responsible for recruitment - the recruitment isn't his fault? This is just getting silly now.
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Post by Quarters on Sept 18, 2021 9:54:22 GMT
Yes must be the owner!!!! Really, we are in the bottom league so money may not work, players have to want to come.
Your theory it's the owner, is that why we have not signed Andy Carroll? He's sitting around doing nothing.......
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 18, 2021 10:45:18 GMT
Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yet if we started our two key players up top, we'd have a combined aged of well over 70 leading the line. Ludicrous. why if they score goals?better then starting with two youngsters up top like last season who couldn't trap and ball and spent the game falling over.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 18, 2021 10:49:07 GMT
Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. Pitman and Clarke were never brought in, to play together, so if that’s the key point, it’s not a very good one. Because of there age, they will take it in turns when fit. They have the legs of Collins, Saunders, Nicholson, Thomas, Anderson , Clarke, Evan’s etc around them. So having one up front with 2/3 young player’s around them, isn’t really an issue??? Time will tell if they settle in and perform well for us. So far they have not. Anderson, Collins, Clarke, Thomas have all been highly rated at this level or higher before. None of them can be key players though??
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 10:50:11 GMT
Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. Pitman and Clarke were never brought in, to play together, so if that’s the key point, it’s not a very good one. Because of there age, they will take it in turns when fit. They have the legs of Collins, Saunders, Nicholson, Thomas, Anderson , Clarke, Evan’s etc around them. So having one up front with 2/3 young player’s around them, isn’t really an issue??? Time will tell if they settle in and perform well for us. So far they have not. Anderson, Collins, Clarke, Thomas have all been highly rated at this level or higher before. None of them can be key players though?? OK cool. Sorry, you're right - the football league is upside-down!
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 10:52:31 GMT
Yet if we started our two key players up top, we'd have a combined aged of well over 70 leading the line. Ludicrous. why if they score goals?better then starting with two youngsters up top like last season who couldn't trap and ball and spent the game falling over. I've just Googled "Goals scored from the treatment table" - I can't see there's much footage of any on YouTube ...
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 18, 2021 10:59:22 GMT
why if they score goals?better then starting with two youngsters up top like last season who couldn't trap and ball and spent the game falling over. I've just Googled "Goals scored from the treatment table" - I can't see there's much footage of any on YouTube ... then google lower league strikers who score goals and are availble and want to relocate to bristol on a one year contract. Cant see many results
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 11:15:05 GMT
I've just Googled "Goals scored from the treatment table" - I can't see there's much footage of any on YouTube ... then google lower league strikers who score goals and are availble and want to relocate to bristol on a one year contract. Cant see many results Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think?
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Post by oldie on Sept 18, 2021 11:39:35 GMT
But who's fault is it we could only sign 30+ year olds, I can't really see JB signing them if he could sign under 30 year olds, so it must come down to lack of finance from Wael. There's always the chance they wouldn't sign because of the JB factor but that hasn't stopped all the other's signing and I'm sure if we offered them a few £'s more they'd soon forget who was our manager. That £800K(?) JB says was cut from the wage bill this season had to be made somewhere. I see Ayunga's been out injured for a few weeks again so signing a younger striker is no guarantee they'll remain fit. So despite JB saying the owner has backed him and he's solely responsible for recruitment - the recruitment isn't his fault? This is just getting silly now. Made me laugh
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 18, 2021 11:44:43 GMT
then google lower league strikers who score goals and are availble and want to relocate to bristol on a one year contract. Cant see many results Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? Please can you name the proven goal scorers who have relocated to us on a one year contract in the last 5 years?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 11:48:18 GMT
Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? Please can you name the proven goal scorers who have relocated to us on a one year contract in the last 5 years? We don't generally have a policy of signing strikers who are proven at this level. That doesn't mean we haven't had strikers who score goals - would you like me to name them?
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 18, 2021 11:50:01 GMT
then google lower league strikers who score goals and are availble and want to relocate to bristol on a one year contract. Cant see many results Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? yep it's only this season we have struggled.i must of missed the previous 137 years of top flight english and european football that you witnessed with rovers and every season having the best strikers in the land
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 12:02:51 GMT
Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? yep it's only this season we have struggled.i must of missed the previous 137 years of top flight english and european football that you witnessed with rovers and every season having the best strikers in the land Don't rate JCH or Harrison or Taylor or Bodin or Easter or Lambert or Walker then? Fair enough. Very hard to please.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 18, 2021 12:06:19 GMT
Please can you name the proven goal scorers who have relocated to us on a one year contract in the last 5 years? We don't generally have a policy of signing strikers who are proven at this level. That doesn't mean we haven't had strikers who score goals - would you like me to name them? I agree that we've had strikers who score goals (even Tom Nichols scored more than one). I just can't think of many who relocated on a one year deal in the last 5 years.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 18, 2021 12:07:36 GMT
yep it's only this season we have struggled.i must of missed the previous 137 years of top flight english and european football that you witnessed with rovers and every season having the best strikers in the land Don't rate JCH or Harrison or Taylor or Bodin or Easter or Lambert or Walker then? Fair enough. Very hard to please. you are the one who says it's not a problem and named strikers that covered how many years?3 out of 137 maybe get behind a brand new team could be a option for some.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 18, 2021 12:25:29 GMT
Pitman and Clarke were never brought in, to play together, so if that’s the key point, it’s not a very good one. Because of there age, they will take it in turns when fit. They have the legs of Collins, Saunders, Nicholson, Thomas, Anderson , Clarke, Evan’s etc around them. So having one up front with 2/3 young player’s around them, isn’t really an issue??? Time will tell if they settle in and perform well for us. So far they have not. Anderson, Collins, Clarke, Thomas have all been highly rated at this level or higher before. None of them can be key players though?? OK cool. Sorry, you're right - the football league is upside-down! Not saying they are good enough. We will see, it’s still early days. Just saying, not all the player’s are old. Not all the potential key player’s are old. Our last two wins, all the outfield player’s were under 30 who started. Bolton signed a lot of experienced player’s last season. They struggled early on, but went up. How long did it take Robert’s, lamberts, the 🐍 etc to settle in?? The majority of our squad are settling in. Hoping a few of the new signings, become good player’s for us and move us up the table. Like with Bolton and Plymouth the year before that. Too early to write them off yet.
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