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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 18:59:47 GMT
So despite the manager saying he's been backed by the owner and despite the fact we've brought in 17 players over the summer you're trying to pretend that the owner hasn't backed the manager? Why? Thought we were talking about why we had to sign two 30+ strikers not players generally? So why would JB sign two 30+ strikers if he could sign two under 30 year olds? Regardless Wael's, yet again, made a hopeless job in recruiting a manager. He should have told Mansfield to f off when they wanted to appoint GC, then appointed an experienced manager rather than cone boy to replace GC. Tisdale was yet an another hopeless appointment. Because he is inept. Wael backed him just like you said he should. Just because you backed this pile of sh** to the hilt until now doesn't make it Wael's fault that the pile of sh** you backed signed two crocked, old, strikers.
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Post by slimbridgegas on Sept 18, 2021 20:12:02 GMT
Watching Brett Pitman today was like watching a striker in a pub team
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Post by legas on Sept 19, 2021 13:24:48 GMT
Apologies if this has been picked up and posted already, but one thing that caught my attention in JB’s post match comments was when he said about Leon Clarke’s injury: “… it could be the end of his football career, not just the end of his season, we just don’t know”.
So that’s possibly it then? Just Pitman as our main striker until January (if he stays fit … or even gets fit as some might argue)? I know we have have Collins and Saunders but they’re not the same type of player.
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Post by alanrg on Sept 19, 2021 14:19:12 GMT
I think we should start looking at giving game time to Kieran Phillips when we returns from his loan he can not do any worse
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Post by bobbyjones on Sept 19, 2021 14:27:19 GMT
Imbecile Barton signed most of our regular team so who else is to blame. The idiot is finished. Why can not others see that. Also he keeps on about time to gel, he will get plenty of jail time soon, hopefully.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 19, 2021 14:51:25 GMT
I think we have some decent players. They just happen to be most of the younger ones and its the experience to compliment them that has under performed, not seem interested or just not worked out
Anderton and Hughes have been sh**e
Coutts. Apparently captain, but cant get in the team.
Whelan and it might be harsh, but he looked every bit his 37 years old
Pitman is just unfit
Leon Clarke arguably could have been an answer, but seems there have been some potentially under lying injury iassues
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 19, 2021 15:42:09 GMT
I think we have some decent players. They just happen to be most of the younger ones and its the experience to compliment them that has under performed, not seem interested or just not worked out Anderton and Hughes have been sh**e Coutts. Apparently captain, but cant get in the team. Whelan and it might be harsh, but he looked every bit his 37 years old Pitman is just unfit Leon Clarke arguably could have been an answer, but seems there have been some potentially under lying injury iassues There is very little point in having a number of experienced guys who are either too old or regularly injured to make a contribution as active players in the team. I thought Rodman fulfilled that role.
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Post by graceyboy on Sept 19, 2021 15:46:15 GMT
Yes, recruitment has again been very poor as it has been for the last two years. I agree that it seems that we are obsessed with signing joeys old club mates who are now the wrong side of 35 and never fit. All that have arrived have been on freebies. I beat the drum for signing kabongo Tshimanga all summer. A smaller club than us Chesterfield, signed him and he's scored 7 already this season in the conference. Why can a layman like me see a good signing but our scouts can't? He cost them 100 grand and maybe that's the problem. Wael will cover debts and build a training ground but won't stump up a transfer fee for a decent player
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2021 16:00:27 GMT
Yes, recruitment has again been very poor as it has been for the last two years. I agree that it seems that we are obsessed with signing joeys old club mates who are now the wrong side of 35 and never fit. All that have arrived have been on freebies. I beat the drum for signing kabongo Tshimanga all summer. A smaller club than us Chesterfield, signed him and he's scored 7 already this season in the conference. Why can a layman like me see a good signing but our scouts can't? He cost them 100 grand and maybe that's the problem. Wael will cover debts and build a training ground but won't stump up a transfer fee for a decent player In fairness to Chesterfield they will probably look a more attractive proposition to join if they get promoted this season and at the same level as us. Edit: also heard the Tshimanga fee was £250k
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Post by madgas on Sept 19, 2021 16:05:44 GMT
I don't really like blaming recruitment and then citing individual players.
I don't think there's any true dreadful signings.
My issue is that we haven't got a striker- again. I think a look at rovers past shows, maybe greater than anybother club. How important a goalscorer is.
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Post by graceyboy on Sept 19, 2021 16:11:23 GMT
I don't really like blaming recruitment and then citing individual players. I don't think there's any true dreadful signings. My issue is that we haven't got a striker- again. I think a look at rovers past shows, maybe greater than anybother club. How important a goalscorer is. So, so true. We were in the play off positions under GC despite being a one man team. As soon as Clarke Harris left, we've gone into freefall. I remember us having a bang average side with cureton and Roberts up front too
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2021 16:49:35 GMT
I don't really like blaming recruitment and then citing individual players. I don't think there's any true dreadful signings. My issue is that we haven't got a striker- again. I think a look at rovers past shows, maybe greater than anybother club. How important a goalscorer is. So, so true. We were in the play off positions under GC despite being a one man team. As soon as Clarke Harris left, we've gone into freefall. I remember us having a bang average side with cureton and Roberts up front too I think you're memory must be playing tricks as that side included Brian Parkin, Pritchard, Tillson, the Latvian, Mauge, Mark Walters and Ellington, most of those would probably be considered amongst some of the best players to ever play for Rovers in the modern era.
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Post by alanrg on Sept 19, 2021 16:57:29 GMT
That side including Roberts and Cureton was one of the best Rovers sides I have seen
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2021 17:00:23 GMT
So, so true. We were in the play off positions under GC despite being a one man team. As soon as Clarke Harris left, we've gone into freefall. I remember us having a bang average side with cureton and Roberts up front too I think you're memory must be playing tricks as that side included Brian Parkin, Pritchard, Tillson, the Latvian, Mauge, Mark Walters and Ellington, most of those would probably be considered amongst some of the best players to ever play for Rovers in the modern era. Pritchard and Mauge were battlers who formed part of the three "dogs of war" in midfield mostly who did the dirty work to give the ball to Cureton and Roberts or Wally to do the damage. Average is probably harsh, functional more appropriate and effective certainly.
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