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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2021 8:02:17 GMT
Totally disagree but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Most players who play in the defensive midfield position end up being under rated for what they do. You mean like Ogogo and Sincs were always underrated?
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Post by warwickgas on Sept 27, 2021 8:04:45 GMT
Something doesn’t add up here. Grant was a regular in the Plymouth team that won promotion back to league one. They wanted to sign him and were disappointed when he chose us.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 27, 2021 8:26:11 GMT
Most defensive midfielders get stuck in and protect the defence and are under rated. I don’t think Grant protects the the defence. He plays in the defence midfield position but doesn’t play as a defensive midfielder. completely agree I dont think Grant has any aggression, I doubt hes ever been booked. If he was doing other bits well then i would overlook it but he doesnt. His first thought should be to defend but it isnt, zero urgency when teams are attacking. Very poor player Everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't make stuff up, Josh got booked 7 times last season
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2021 8:34:27 GMT
completely agree I dont think Grant has any aggression, I doubt hes ever been booked. If he was doing other bits well then i would overlook it but he doesnt. His first thought should be to defend but it isnt, zero urgency when teams are attacking. Very poor player Everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't make stuff up, Josh got booked 7 times last season But not once this season, whilst Finlay's picked up 4 cards.
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 27, 2021 8:35:44 GMT
Once fit I’d like to see grant take that right sided centre back role from kilgour who has had a torrid start to the season. Grant Taylor harries
See how that goes.
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Post by putterbishopston on Sept 27, 2021 8:48:03 GMT
He has improved but at a snails pace, offers very little going forward and prefers to pass sideways as quickly as possible and as short a distance as possible often passing to others who are trying to get into position or being hounded by the opposition, won't take a shot, and is more than capable of fluffing a long pass when completely free, he appears committed to the cause and I think try's hard, just not quite working for us.
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Post by phillistine on Sept 27, 2021 9:05:16 GMT
its strange how we see the same games but have so vastly different opinions. Grant to me has come on well this season and apart from when he was played as a wing back has delivered . He passes the ball a lot better than last season and if he moves into the back line, we always look more solid. Its a shame that Managers consistently say that his best position is central defence and no-one has played him because he is always covering other deficiencies - including wing back.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 27, 2021 9:09:31 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't make stuff up, Josh got booked 7 times last season But not once this season, whilst Finlay's picked up 4 cards. So one more for Finley and he gets a ban, that's clever isn't it?
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 27, 2021 9:13:22 GMT
But not once this season, whilst Finlay's picked up 4 cards. So one more for Finley and he gets a ban, that's clever isn't it? usually means his midfield partner is not doing his job
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 27, 2021 9:28:12 GMT
its strange how we see the same games but have so vastly different opinions. Grant to me has come on well this season and apart from when he was played as a wing back has delivered . He passes the ball a lot better than last season and if he moves into the back line, we always look more solid. Its a shame that Managers consistently say that his best position is central defence and no-one has played him because he is always covering other deficiencies - including wing back. I think it depends on where you sit in the ground too. I see Grant play very simple and effective passes which don’t look spectacular but will often get the team out of trouble or provide a different option. It’s not often he gets outmuscled either.
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Post by graceyboy on Sept 27, 2021 9:42:22 GMT
Grant is a snail. He's a throwback to lines and Chris curruthers in terms of his lack of pace. Maybe that's why he sits in front of the back 4 a la Jan molby. He's bulky and immobile and seems incapable of giving anything other than short simple passes usually sideways. Apart from finley, we seem to have a dearth of talent in cm. It's time to ditch the 2 defensive cm tactics. We have loads of wingers, play 4-4-2 with x2 cms that do the lot. Finley and 1 other. Grant is not a midfielder. Try him at cb. He's big and bulky enough to do a job there.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 27, 2021 10:19:07 GMT
Could not agree more. Thought he was sh**e from day one and so far he has failed to improve on that assessment. Another P?!s poor signing. Bit like Tony Craig really. Yep. Didn't rate him as much as others but he was a lot better than Grant.
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Post by richie on Sept 27, 2021 10:40:11 GMT
Shouldnt this guy be an essential starter for us by now, he plays in a key position for us for well over a season.
hes not my cup of tea but then I prefer him to Upson but not Ogogo. Just a personal opinion
The fact that this thread exists says it all
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 27, 2021 10:51:27 GMT
Think he does a lot of the dirty stuff which goes unnoticed hence this thread, plays simple efficient effective passes, not that creative but decent player.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 27, 2021 19:55:41 GMT
Think he does a lot of the dirty stuff which goes unnoticed hence this thread, plays simple efficient effective passes, not that creative but decent player. Maybe its unnoticed because it doesn't exist?
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 27, 2021 20:30:20 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't make stuff up, Josh got booked 7 times last season But not once this season, whilst Finlay's picked up 4 cards. Blimey!! Are we now saying getting booked is a good thing? Jeez. UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 27, 2021 21:40:53 GMT
Not sure if I missed it but was Grant dropped or unfit yesterday? Said in the match thread and I'll say it again...grant dropped, we play our best match of the season and win. Coincidence? I think not.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 27, 2021 21:43:48 GMT
Totally disagree but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Most players who play in the defensive midfield position end up being under rated for what they do. And there are some players who play in the defensive midfield position that just aren't very good i.e Grant. Maybe he'll get an easier time from you though Steve because he came from Chelsea instead of through our youth setup therefore he must be good?
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Sept 28, 2021 6:58:29 GMT
This place is great, finally we get that elusive away win and it gets used to hammer a player that didn't play, priceless. Grant has been picked regularly by 3 different managers and is one of the few to survive the great JB cull despite bringing in Coutts, Whelan & Finley who all play the same midfield role. Defensive midfielders are notoriously underrated, go back to Twerton days Andy Reece was a prime example. Sometimes the dirty work they do goes unnoticed, personally I think the same thing is true with Grant.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 28, 2021 7:55:14 GMT
Not sure if I missed it but was Grant dropped or unfit yesterday? Said in the match thread and I'll say it again...grant dropped, we play our best match of the season and win. Coincidence? I think not. Nonsense. You could just as well say Nicholson, Thomas, Clarke, Clarke, Anderton, Hughes dropped, we play our best match of the season and win. Coincidence? I think not.
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