|
Post by miltongas on Oct 20, 2021 6:56:19 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football?
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 20, 2021 7:02:01 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? we could win the champions league and they would still want him out !
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 20, 2021 7:10:34 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? I think we need to keep JB for the whole season as it's pointless sacking a manager now. With players coming back and gaining full fitness the signs of progress are very encouraging and now is the time for stability.
|
|
|
Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 20, 2021 7:26:21 GMT
When Rovers win, some who are pro JB wants those who are anti JB to give credit to JB for the the win and get upset when anti JB'ers remain negative even though JB got the win. As we didn't win tonight, are there any pro JB'ers prepared to admit it was JB who was at fault for not winning due to his bad decision making with subs and tactics, trying to see the game out being defensive and therefore inviting all the pressure on us? Don't be surprised if any anti JB'ers get upset when pro JB'ers remain positive even though JB messed up. I find it really strange how we all watch the same game yet opinions differ depending purely on which side of the JB debate you are on. I'm on the fence still but can see both sides of this one. Watching the game my first instinct once those subs were made was that we would sit too deep and invite them to attack which we hadn't done all game. I absolutely would have taken both Thomas & Nicholson off but we needed to keep an outlet, if Collins was done put Anderson up top and hit the channels at least make their back 4 go back towards their own goal. I also think Evans alongside Whelan was a massive part of how well we played, moving him for Coutts seemed to disrupt us as much as any of the other changes. At least now I hope that JB see's the benefit of starting games with this more attack minded line up. Thomas, Nicholson and Evans are key to how well we do this season. You have to find room to start all three then you add in a combination of Anderson, Collins and Saunders. Hopefully Leon Clarke will be back soon so he and Pitman can share the duties of being the lone striker. I suppose the question is what to do when Finley comes back, although that's the sort of problem that a football manager would call a nice problem to have! Whelan has done well sitting in front of the back three. Finley's return will also place Coutts further down the pecking order (and rightfully so)
|
|
|
Post by giles on Oct 20, 2021 7:28:16 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? At the moment I am firmly Barton out whatever the results. However, if he would stop running down anybody that he did not bring to the club and was here before he arrived and actually give players that have not played at all a sustained chance when his signings are not working I would be prepared to tolerate him for the time being. Even if we were promoted as champions I would not want him at this club. It is just how I feel but I appreciate and respect that others feel more warmly towards him. Yesterday’s ending was certainly not worth the long journey and time off work
|
|
|
Post by stokegiffordgas on Oct 20, 2021 7:32:14 GMT
Although I agree JB did what almost every other manager except Bielsa & maybe Guardiola would do in the circumstances last night this is a fair summary from the Colchester forum: U’s fortune to get a point from the encounter. After a bright start U’s struggled to dominate and conceded far to many free kicks around the area come the end of the first half. Unable to get a foothold in the second and going a goal down evidently, only a Chilvers half volley from the end of the box saved their blushes has a team who did not look like the home side and never worked the visiting keeper enough. Should have be a away win banker, but Rovers tried to manage the result rather than play us off the park which was happening, sometimes you can tinker too much . Point most welcome after another display of inadequacy. Time to split the front two and the two wide players again fail to deliver. We made a average look good.
|
|
|
Post by wertongas on Oct 20, 2021 7:55:40 GMT
Thomas and Nicholson were having less effect on the game as the second half wore on and i was thinking bring Spence on to freshen things up for Thomas, but we replaced him with a defender and then brought on more defensive players and tried to defend the lead putting us on the back foot immediately I thought we will concede and we did. Not the first time Barton has made this blunder, hopefully he will learn from his mistakes.
|
|
|
Post by Tilly's Thighs on Oct 20, 2021 8:12:25 GMT
Saturday almost felt like a win, whereas last night almost felt like we lost. Swings and roundabouts, I said beforehand that I'd be happy with a point.
It was good to see some of the much talked about training routines coming to fruition on matchday, and, hopefully some lessons learnt by manager and players in the last 10 minutes. Onwards and upwards to Saturday - UTG.
|
|
|
Post by peterparker on Oct 20, 2021 8:16:19 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? I think we need to keep JB for the whole season as it's pointless sacking a manager now. With players coming back and gaining full fitness the signs of progress are very encouraging and now is the time for stability. I don't want him here and never did, but I don't disagree with the sentiment of now he is here, you give him the time Of course everything goes back to the Elephant in the room. If we are turning things around and improving and justifying his position as manager, we could be back to square one in a few weeks anyway
|
|
|
Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 20, 2021 9:13:54 GMT
That’s true PP - nothing we can do about that outcome - what we can do is try to unite as a fan base , and get behind JB and the team - as there is a significant improvement !!! 💙 Utg
|
|
|
Post by bluegas on Oct 20, 2021 9:14:26 GMT
Saturday almost felt like a win, whereas last night almost felt like we lost. Swings and roundabouts, I said beforehand that I'd be happy with a point. It was good to see some of the much talked about training routines coming to fruition on matchday, and, hopefully some lessons learnt by manager and players in the last 10 minutes. Onwards and upwards to Saturday - UTG. Absolutely - we have to hope JB and the team have learnt a harsh lesson. If they have it could be invaluable for the rest of the season.
|
|
|
Post by titchthephot on Oct 20, 2021 9:30:36 GMT
That’s true PP - nothing we can do about that outcome - what we can do is try to unite as a fan base , and get behind JB and the team - as there is a significant improvement !!! 💙 Utg Get rid of Barton and it will unite the fanbase...especially if we get a manager who knows what he is doing and isn't a narcissist !!
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Oct 20, 2021 9:34:20 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? Football wise, I'd say top 10 by Christmas with a genuine chance to push on and a bit of humility in his interviews.
|
|
|
Post by kruger on Oct 20, 2021 9:40:28 GMT
That’s true PP - nothing we can do about that outcome - what we can do is try to unite as a fan base , and get behind JB and the team - as there is a significant improvement !!! 💙 Utg Get rid of Barton and it will unite the fanbase...especially if we get a manager who knows what he is doing and isn't a narcissist !! No it wouldn't, I'd be watered right off if wr got rid of Barton,I can see a vast improvement on the pitch and if he went we would be back to square one
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 9:42:06 GMT
That’s true PP - nothing we can do about that outcome - what we can do is try to unite as a fan base , and get behind JB and the team - as there is a significant improvement !!! 💙 Utg Get rid of Barton and it will unite the fanbase...especially if we get a manager who knows what he is doing and isn't a narcissist !! I agree, Barton is a divisive figure and I don't think there will ever be a sense of unity either within the club or the fanbase whilst he is here whatever the results on the pitch.
|
|
|
Post by pucklegas on Oct 20, 2021 9:42:12 GMT
Listening on the radio seems we created a few chances which is encouraging, disappointed to lose that goal in the end, agree with most on here we went too deep at the end trying to protect our lead, 82 ers did the same apparently with a worse outcome 😂
Seems we are performing better which augurs well for the rest of the season, unless judge Rinder derails the project restart.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 9:43:20 GMT
Next 7 League games
Newport (13th) Harrogate (2nd) Northampton (6th) Tranmere (5th) Salford (15th) Forest green (1st) Port vale (4th)
We are about to find out how good we are
|
|
|
Post by canberragas69 on Oct 20, 2021 9:43:21 GMT
For me, it's simple now. If he is found guilty in either of the 2 cases, he should be out.
|
|
|
Post by richie on Oct 20, 2021 9:43:37 GMT
That’s true PP - nothing we can do about that outcome - what we can do is try to unite as a fan base , and get behind JB and the team - as there is a significant improvement !!! 💙 Utg Get rid of Barton and it will unite the fanbase...especially if we get a manager who knows what he is doing and isn't a narcissist !! Unite the fanbase that's a bit optimistic, some people in here wouldn't be happy with Sir Alex Ferguson, set in their ways, wanting instant success looking into a glass that's always half empty
|
|
|
Post by richhertford on Oct 20, 2021 9:44:22 GMT
Get rid of Barton and it will unite the fanbase...especially if we get a manager who knows what he is doing and isn't a narcissist !! No it wouldn't, I'd be P?!sed right off if wr got rid of Barton,I can see a vast improvement on the pitch and if he went we would be back to square one Spot on. We can learn from the very best. Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola last night. "The people in this world want things immediately, quick, but everything needs time," he said. "You cannot cook a good dish if you don't spend time in the kitchen. So, take time." We are making progress..
|
|