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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 10:07:07 GMT
Point away from home? Happily take that.
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Post by titchthephot on Oct 20, 2021 10:14:15 GMT
It's not about Barton's ability as a manager (pretty awful though it is) it's his ability (or lack of it) to be a decent human being. I would have stuck with BG or PT though I wasn't over impressed with the way they ran the team but I do agree that consistency is what is required to move this club forward. It just can't be with Barton. He is a nasty, narcissistic, blame everyone but himself, angry piece of work and needs to be got rid of as soon as possible.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 20, 2021 10:14:46 GMT
Their guy who got sent off is only 17. Almost child abuse that punch!
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Post by titchthephot on Oct 20, 2021 10:30:16 GMT
Just out of interest, why did the Colchester player get sent off? He was the one being attacked and only held off Clarke to probably stop him from hitting him again. It did seem a bit harsh on the lad...or did I miss something?
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 20, 2021 10:36:45 GMT
Was Harries previously yellow carded as Time wasting isn't a red card offence??At least not in my day
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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 10:37:53 GMT
It's not about Barton's ability as a manager (pretty awful though it is) it's his ability (or lack of it) to be a decent human being. I would have stuck with BG or PT though I wasn't over impressed with the way they ran the team but I do agree that consistency is what is required to move this club forward. It just can't be with Barton. He is a nasty, narcissistic, blame everyone but himself, angry piece of work and needs to be got rid of as soon as possible. I'm sure there's been lots of nasty pieces of work in Football over the years, taking bribes, corruption, illegal betting, etc etc. Not defending him, but he's not alone. Thing is, the Club comes first, it's a results business, would we be better off bringing in someone new and starting again, or sticking with him as like it or not, the points and performances are starting to come in.
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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 10:38:23 GMT
Was Harries previously yellow carded as Time wasting isn't a red card offence??At least not in my day I believe it was a 2nd yellow.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 20, 2021 10:39:49 GMT
Just out of interest, why did the Colchester player get sent off? He was the one being attacked and only held off Clarke to probably stop him from hitting him again. It did seem a bit harsh on the lad...or did I miss something? Oh no, you’ve missed nothing! Especially when it’s anything about Barton, or anything, that has anything to do with Barton. Anyway, keep it up, I’m desperate to hear what’s next 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 10:58:59 GMT
It's not about Barton's ability as a manager (pretty awful though it is) it's his ability (or lack of it) to be a decent human being. I would have stuck with BG or PT though I wasn't over impressed with the way they ran the team but I do agree that consistency is what is required to move this club forward. It just can't be with Barton. He is a nasty, narcissistic, blame everyone but himself, angry piece of work and needs to be got rid of as soon as possible. I'm sure there's been lots of nasty pieces of work in Football over the years, taking bribes, corruption, illegal betting, etc etc. Not defending him, but he's not alone. Thing is, the Club comes first, it's a results business, would we be better off bringing in someone new and starting again, or sticking with him as like it or not, the points and performances are starting to come in. Even based on results he isn’t good enough
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Post by titchthephot on Oct 20, 2021 10:59:30 GMT
Just out of interest, why did the Colchester player get sent off? He was the one being attacked and only held off Clarke to probably stop him from hitting him again. It did seem a bit harsh on the lad...or did I miss something? Oh no, you’ve missed nothing! Especially when it’s anything about Barton, or anything, that has anything to do with Barton. Anyway, keep it up, I’m desperate to hear what’s next 🤣 A straightforward question requiring a straightforward answer......too difficult for you?
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Post by SleepyGas on Oct 20, 2021 11:14:45 GMT
Just out of interest, why did the Colchester player get sent off? He was the one being attacked and only held off Clarke to probably stop him from hitting him again. It did seem a bit harsh on the lad...or did I miss something? Could be that he was sent off for instigating whatever caused Clarke to lash out? (although surely just holding him back in that part of the pitch should just be a yellow, if anything).. or maybe putting his hands up in self defence was just mistaken by the ref to be aggressive rather than defensive? Probably more likely the ref didn't really see what happened and just saw two players "fighting" and sent them both off. Either way; it will be interestng to see what happens if Colchester appeal.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 20, 2021 11:22:39 GMT
Just out of interest what would change people’s minds? If Rovers won 4/6 games with 2 draws from here would the JB out people be prepared to keep him and give him a chance, conversely if we lost 4/6 and drew 2 would the JB in people accept that the decision has been a poor one. I realise some are anti him for his off field actions so I guess those will never change but what about those who are judging him on his football? we could win the champions league and they would still want him out ! Not trying to win the UCL, Henbury. Just trying to have a good pop at getting out of League 2 is good for me and so far we’ve been sh**e.
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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 11:27:30 GMT
I'm sure there's been lots of nasty pieces of work in Football over the years, taking bribes, corruption, illegal betting, etc etc. Not defending him, but he's not alone. Thing is, the Club comes first, it's a results business, would we be better off bringing in someone new and starting again, or sticking with him as like it or not, the points and performances are starting to come in. Even based on results he isn’t good enough Results are getting better though right? As are performances? Hell of a risk to get rid just as it seems things might be coming together? At last.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:29:32 GMT
Even based on results he isn’t good enough Results are getting better though right? As are performances? Hell of a risk to get rid just as it seems things might be coming together? At last. Not for me, we will get results against the poorer teams in this division in spite of Barton, not because of him
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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 11:34:39 GMT
Results are getting better though right? As are performances? Hell of a risk to get rid just as it seems things might be coming together? At last. Not for me, we will get results against the poorer teams in this division in spite of Barton, not because of him But it's his squad that's slowly but surely getting the results. Just out of interest, what's your cure?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:45:49 GMT
Not for me, we will get results against the poorer teams in this division in spite of Barton, not because of him But it's his squad that's slowly but surely getting the results. Just out of interest, what's your cure? My cure would be to get a less divisive manager in and the remit would be to work with what we have whilst slowly adding to it for some consistency. Changing manager is fine but letting them smash the house down everytime is not.
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Post by baggins on Oct 20, 2021 11:50:49 GMT
But it's his squad that's slowly but surely getting the results. Just out of interest, what's your cure? My cure would be to get a less divisive manager in and the remit would be to work with what we have whilst slowly adding to it for some consistency. Changing manager is fine but letting them smash the house down everytime is not. Aren't we becoming consistent? And a new Manager will do exactly that, tear it apart. Garner anyone?
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 20, 2021 11:51:58 GMT
Oh no, you’ve missed nothing! Especially when it’s anything about Barton, or anything, that has anything to do with Barton. Anyway, keep it up, I’m desperate to hear what’s next 🤣 A straightforward question requiring a straightforward answer......too difficult for you? He kicked out in the first place to trip/stop Clarke, which provoked the response from Clarke. Whether the ref saw that or based his decision on the mutual grabbing that took place afterwards, I don't know. Both were straight reds, so will be for violent conduct.
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Post by playtowin on Oct 20, 2021 12:08:12 GMT
Just out of interest, why did the Colchester player get sent off? He was the one being attacked and only held off Clarke to probably stop him from hitting him again. It did seem a bit harsh on the lad...or did I miss something? I seem to remember that clarke was trotting upfield ,the other guy was running towards clarke. He slowed down but appeared to shove his shoulder into clarke. Clarke then reacted. The incident was manufactured to try to make clarke react ...and he did.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 20, 2021 12:14:00 GMT
My cure would be to get a less divisive manager in and the remit would be to work with what we have whilst slowly adding to it for some consistency. Changing manager is fine but letting them smash the house down everytime is not. Aren't we becoming consistent? And a new Manager will do exactly that, tear it apart. Garner anyone? Swindon look a bit more consistent than us, atm.
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