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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 10:29:28 GMT
The club have not made a statement as that would simply escalate it and keep it in the press longer. What would a statement from BRFC really achieve other than get criticism - as happened in the earlier comments? Sometimes an apology and eating some humble pie helps...but narcissists find that approach very difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 10:32:09 GMT
'The club losing it's way'.Sums it up but our 'Leaders' don't seem capable of sorting any of it.Will be too late unless we are not brought back on track very soon both on and off the pitch. Meanwhile on Insta Wael's posting picture of him leaving a meal with an ex Chelsea DoF as if he's totally oblivious to what's happening at the club he owns. I am beginning to think Wael lives in a fantasy world where he gains kudos from snaps with footballers and celebs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 10:37:30 GMT
No surprise that this is gaining more coverage, the Rovers Twitterati were working overtime at the weekend, Tweeting national journalists, and David Baddiel, to bring it to their attention. One person even Tweeted the Holmesdale Fanatics - in the hope of them making a banner I presume. No thought given that, escalating it to national level, would ensure that the club name is sullied far and wide. The Board should have stepped in with a brief statement on Saturday evening or Sunday morning, along with an apology from Barton for any offence caused, they've missed the boat on that now - the (news)hounds are off and running. Is that true TT? Do you know that for a fact? I don't Twitter so I wouldn't know. If it is, it's a pretty damning indictment of our own fans. I think the indictment rests with Barton ... you cannot blame those he has upset for wanting action taken. For me, a prompt apology from Barton and seeing him eat some humble-pie for once would have been good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 10:41:40 GMT
If you are saying that because the word was not preceded by ‘the’ it’s ok. Try putting Holocaust into your browser and see what comes up. It’s an evocative word for all the wrong reasons however it’s used. Nope there is a very big difference between the use of a pecific or particular nouns. Barton used "a" Holocaust rather than "The" Holocaust. A Simple..Fact. So anyone trying to twist his words are using slander to fit within there anti JB agenda. He is being hung to dry due to the use of the word Holocaust rather the intent within his speech. I think he is a dumbass for this use of this language ( even though I very much doubt he had any bad intent when said) I think JB is our 2nd worst manager ever and I would like him removed. However, he is the target for the PC brigade whenever he blinks, and that's before, during as well as after his spell as Bristol Rovers manager. Why on earth do so many despise Barton ? I think this distaste of Barton expends far beyond the PC brigade.
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Post by baggins on Oct 26, 2021 10:54:15 GMT
Not sure I care. Points on the board, avoid relegation, support the Team, my caring doesn't stretch much further than that at the moment.
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Post by giff on Oct 26, 2021 11:00:45 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 11:20:18 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life. But we aren’t top and never will be with him in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 11:58:40 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life. If my Aunt had a Penis she would be my Uncle.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2021 12:05:41 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life. Perhaps but that’s the same as many situations. If Solskjaer had the tactical ability that Klopp has he wouldn’t have lost 0-5. So many ifs..... If we were 10 points clear he probably wouldn’t have to have that kind of Press Conference, we’d have likely won and the situation wouldn’t have arisen. But we weren’t, we aren’t and we are unlikely to be. He’s a poor manager and for that alone he needs to go. UTG!
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Post by peterparker on Oct 26, 2021 12:13:29 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life. If we were 10 points clear he would still be a w**ker and an incident waiting to happen It will be something else in a couple of weeks because the bloke cant help himself
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 26, 2021 12:14:38 GMT
Would love to see what reactions these comments would have been if we were 10 points clear at the top of the league, bet everyone would have been supporting him and calling out the PC brigade. I want Barton gone as well , but for Football reasons only, as his reign has been a disaster, sorry should not have said that .as a Disaster is could mean a great loss of life. If my Aunt had a Penis she would be my Uncle. Not necessarily these days, she would be allowed to choose!
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Post by pirate on Oct 26, 2021 13:03:49 GMT
Really don't understand the club not making any sort of statement. A simple explanation and apology for any offence caused would have sufficed. But no, silence. After the sh** show statement after the Barton arrest maybe it is time the club employed someone to deal with PR, because the board clearly too incompetent to deal with it themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 13:10:58 GMT
I really just can’t figure out why we haven’t said a single word on it. 😂
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Post by theduke on Oct 26, 2021 13:16:15 GMT
Meanwhile on Insta Wael's posting picture of him leaving a meal with an ex Chelsea DoF as if he's totally oblivious to what's happening at the club he owns. I am beginning to think Wael lives in a fantasy world where he gains kudos from snaps with footballers and celebs. In fairness mate, I think that much was obvious a long time ago. If Barton didn't have 3 million followers on Twitter and made national headlines on numerous occasions (albeit for all the wrong reasons) he wouldn't have been anywhere near this club.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 26, 2021 13:26:45 GMT
Have we or any other club ever had a manager whose every word, action, decision is scrutinised with a fine tooth comb in order to find controversy? Admittedly there are times when you do not have to comb too fine to find what you want and JB would be well served by a speech writer /checker who could advise him on what phrases /statements are likely to cause adverse reactions, after all many of the great orators, statesmen, leaders employ such people to keep them out of trouble, not that i am putting JB in that category! As far as this latest furore that surrounds his recent controversial language his critics are refusing to give any credence to the view that the offending word was used in general terms , as in dictionary, and will not acknowledge that the absence of the word 'the' puts the use of the word in to a totally different bracket. There are some on here who will not give JB any slack in his efforts to move on from his past and he would be wasting his time trying to win them over, they are entitled to that view although it is not a philosophy i am at ease with in life in general, how many of us have made mistakes and benefitted from being given a chance to redeem ourselves? (not another poll please!)Many media outlets have jumped on the bandwagon from The Post upwards and IMHO the reaction is way over the top. The club could certainly have helped to smooth things over by issuing a statement explaining the context in which the word was used and that they had advised JB of the importance of 'thinking' before using such words and there silence is regrettable, watch this space. As for JB i have said before nothing would please me more than to see him prove the doubters wrong and i judge him purely on football matters. In this Context he spent last season lambasting the squad and those who assembled and coached it, he was give license to rewrite the script , change the characters and write his own story lines, fair enough most thought and this he has done. The result of this rewrite we now see, in mho the squad is no better than last year, it is arguably worse, the performances are no better despite playing at a lower level, and whereas the likes of Oldham, Walsall seemed to be improving i do not see it with Rovers, it is all very disappointing and worrying. I think back to Swindon preseason, a basket case it seemed with no players and a manager who lasted a few days , enter BG and hey presto look at them now, funny ole game in nit! I have willed JB to get it right on field ( that was my only concern) but it aint happening and as they say on Dragons Den it is for this reason i am now , regrettably, out. UP the Rovers !
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Post by alanrg on Oct 26, 2021 14:28:06 GMT
I c yet another article in the Bristol Post not Mr Frost on this matter how many people do they need to employ on this matter yet more sh@t stirring
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 14:41:47 GMT
I c yet another article in the Bristol Post not Mr Frost on this matter how many people do they need to employ on this matter yet more sh@t stirring Can you please explain to me how reporting on events that have and are happening is sh** stirring?
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Post by peterparker on Oct 26, 2021 14:53:07 GMT
I c yet another article in the Bristol Post not Mr Frost on this matter how many people do they need to employ on this matter yet more sh@t stirring the thing is if Barton/The Club did what most people would have done shortly after it kicked off and issued some sort of apology, most of the stories wouldn't be being written It is Barton and Rovers inaction that is fuelling the fire
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Post by playtowin on Oct 26, 2021 15:00:40 GMT
Really don't understand the club not making any sort of statement. A simple explanation and apology for any offence caused would have sufficed. But no, silence. After the sh** show statement after the Barton arrest maybe it is time the club employed someone to deal with PR, because the board clearly too incompetent to deal with it themselves. This is in the remit of mr Starnes i would imagine. Combined with those who organise the press releases and interviews. It might have been prudent for someone else to do the press interviews instead of JB. Plenty of clubs dont have the manager doing it. Maybe he could do pre recorded and then vetted statements and thoughts. Incidentally. The sooner the public use the term Shoah instead of THE holocaust the better.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Oct 26, 2021 15:00:48 GMT
Is that true TT? Do you know that for a fact? I don't Twitter so I wouldn't know. If it is, it's a pretty damning indictment of our own fans. I think the indictment rests with Barton ... you cannot blame those he has upset for wanting action taken. For me, a prompt apology from Barton and seeing him eat some humble-pie for once would have been good. I agree with you about the apology. However, actively seeking out bad publicity for the club I support would go very much against the grain for me. I noticed that the Post only wrote a specific article about it after the nationals had published details, you'd have expected them to be quicker off the mark.
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