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Post by RD on Dec 6, 2021 13:41:21 GMT
Not needed. The vast majority of people on here will no doubt accept the ruling, even more so given it was unanimous. I see you refrained from commenting on our deserved win Saturday? opting to just come on here after to bash Barton some more? It was the anniversary of my Mother's death, so I had other things to do on Saturday. Thanks for being so utterly obsessed with me you kept tabs on my posting habits though.
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Post by axegas on Dec 6, 2021 13:42:53 GMT
Not needed. The vast majority of people on here will no doubt accept the ruling, even more so given it was unanimous. I see you refrained from commenting on our deserved win Saturday? opting to just come on here after to bash Barton some more? Not really necessary that comment. Roverdrive is entitled to his opinion and to voice that opinion just as much as anyone else.
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Post by baggins on Dec 6, 2021 13:44:50 GMT
Disappointed..even if gets away with next date in court, he won’t learn , until the next time .. Disappointed? We're on about our Manager who can get back to putting results together.
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Post by barumgas on Dec 6, 2021 13:45:30 GMT
Glad it was unanimous at least. Have to have faith that justice has prevailed, which a unanimous victory does at least give some confidence has been the case. Shame this isn't the end of it all now and we can move forward; one - much worse - case to go though. A decent measured response RoverDrive.... I know you are not Barton's greatest fan! (understatement!) and have been a strong critic of his over recent weeks / months and a guilty verdict is probably secretly what you hoped (guessing here) so that Wael could have had leverage to remove JB from post... I am 100% in agreement with what you've written here though - it being unanimous and returned in such a short time should give confidence that justice has prevailed and his innocence in this case was clear in the eyes of the law. We now just have to wait a couple of weeks for the next (more serious) case to be heard and hopefully the outcome there will equally return a decisive unanimous verdict either way after which we can hopefully all finally move on and stop the tit for tat arguing (not directed at you) and concentrate solely on the football itself! Isn't the next hearing before the Magistrates and not Judge and Jury?
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Post by baggins on Dec 6, 2021 13:47:07 GMT
I see you refrained from commenting on our deserved win Saturday? opting to just come on here after to bash Barton some more? It was the anniversary of my Mother's death, so I had other things to do on Saturday. Thanks for being so utterly obsessed with me you kept tabs on my posting habits though. Deep breath fella, not a nice thing to go through. Been there. Still, back to Rovers tomorrow night, 3 points.
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Post by RD on Dec 6, 2021 13:48:34 GMT
It was the anniversary of my Mother's death, so I had other things to do on Saturday. Thanks for being so utterly obsessed with me you kept tabs on my posting habits though. Deep breath fella, not a nice thing to go through. Been there. Still, back to Rovers tomorrow night, 3 points. Thank you mate. Sorry to hear that too. And yes! Playing them at the right time in theory. Win tomorrow will be massive potentially.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Dec 6, 2021 13:48:58 GMT
Presumably there is still the chance of FA or EFL action over this incident though?
So to go back to the football analogy, Barton's got a winner but there will be a VAR check
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Dec 6, 2021 13:49:07 GMT
A decent measured response RoverDrive.... I know you are not Barton's greatest fan! (understatement!) and have been a strong critic of his over recent weeks / months and a guilty verdict is probably secretly what you hoped (guessing here) so that Wael could have had leverage to remove JB from post... I am 100% in agreement with what you've written here though - it being unanimous and returned in such a short time should give confidence that justice has prevailed and his innocence in this case was clear in the eyes of the law. We now just have to wait a couple of weeks for the next (more serious) case to be heard and hopefully the outcome there will equally return a decisive unanimous verdict either way after which we can hopefully all finally move on and stop the tit for tat arguing (not directed at you) and concentrate solely on the football itself! Isn't the next hearing before the Magistrates and not Judge and Jury? Not sure mate - I just hope that whomever it is before, we get a definitive a clear outcome - whatever outcome that may be. Then hopefully that will be the last of it and we can move on and debate the football and the performances - not JB's character
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Post by gillygas07 on Dec 6, 2021 13:49:34 GMT
Disappointed..even if gets away with next date in court, he won’t learn , until the next time .. Disappointed? We're on about our Manager who can get back to putting results together. 16th in league 2 !
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Post by RD on Dec 6, 2021 13:49:37 GMT
Presumably there is still the chance of FA or EFL action over this incident though? So to go back to the football analogy, Barton's got a winner but there will be a VAR check I could well be wrong, but I thought he already had? Memory may be playing tricks on me though.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 6, 2021 13:50:24 GMT
We dust ourselves down and go again, in er, around two weeks time. Or even tomorrow with PV visiting. UTG!
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Dec 6, 2021 13:50:42 GMT
Presumably there is still the chance of FA or EFL action over this incident though? So to go back to the football analogy, Barton's got a winner but there will be a VAR check Can't see how the FA or EFL can take any action - Barton has been cleared of any wrongdoing in court so in the eyes of the law he has nothing to answer for. How can the FA or EFL then take action against him when he's 'done nothing wrong' here?
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Post by baggins on Dec 6, 2021 13:52:06 GMT
Disappointed? We're on about our Manager who can get back to putting results together. 16th in league 2 ! And that's why we should get back to doing what we do best, getting behind the Manager, and the squad tomorrow night.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 6, 2021 13:58:03 GMT
I see you refrained from commenting on our deserved win Saturday? opting to just come on here after to bash Barton some more? It was the anniversary of my Mother's death, so I had other things to do on Saturday. Thanks for being so utterly obsessed with me you kept tabs on my posting habits though. Always a difficult day mate, especially when if falls at this time of year - take care.
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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 6, 2021 13:58:11 GMT
Presumably there is still the chance of FA or EFL action over this incident though? So to go back to the football analogy, Barton's got a winner but there will be a VAR check How on earth could the EFL, FA take action on a crown court case that he was proven to be not guilty of by 10 to 0.
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Post by RD on Dec 6, 2021 13:59:46 GMT
It was the anniversary of my Mother's death, so I had other things to do on Saturday. Thanks for being so utterly obsessed with me you kept tabs on my posting habits though. Always a difficult day mate, especially when if falls at this time of year - take care. Thanks Tilly
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Dec 6, 2021 13:59:56 GMT
Presumably there is still the chance of FA or EFL action over this incident though? So to go back to the football analogy, Barton's got a winner but there will be a VAR check Can't see how the FA or EFL can take any action - Barton has been cleared of any wrongdoing in court so in the eyes of the law he has nothing to answer for. How can the FA or EFL then take action against him when he's 'done nothing wrong' here? Just speculating, but in the eyes of the EFL/FA there might be other offences with a different burden of proof. For example, bringing the game into disrepute. Ben Stokes was fined £30,000 and got a retrospective 8-match ban by the ECB after he was acquitted in court of affray.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 6, 2021 14:01:24 GMT
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he did it, but in a court of law there is no way that the jury could come to a guilty verdict based on that weak ‘evidence’. What a waste of time So without being there , not seeing anything and not hearing anything you’re absolutely convinced he was guilty. 🤔
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Dec 6, 2021 14:05:43 GMT
Can't see how the FA or EFL can take any action - Barton has been cleared of any wrongdoing in court so in the eyes of the law he has nothing to answer for. How can the FA or EFL then take action against him when he's 'done nothing wrong' here? Just speculating, but in the eyes of the EFL/FA there might be other offences with a different burden of proof. For example, bringing the game into disrepute. Ben Stokes was fined £30,000 and got a retrospective 8-match ban by the ECB after he was acquitted in court of affray. Yeah but there was CCTV footage of him in the fight? From what I can tell there isn't anything like that with this case and IF there was action to be taken I'm pretty certain it would have been taken at the time.... I think the last message was that the EFL were aware of an alleged incident in the tunnel post match and were investigating but couldn't say any more as the Police were investigating too... In theory, I'm guessing you're right in that the FA / EFL could take some form of action but I can't see it personally or even if they tried I think it wouldn't stick and would likely be removed following appeal...
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Post by peterparker on Dec 6, 2021 14:07:21 GMT
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he did it, but in a court of law there is no way that the jury could come to a guilty verdict based on that weak ‘evidence’. What a waste of time So without being there , not seeing anything and not hearing anything you’re absolutely convinced he was guilty. 🤔 The defence summing up basically gave their whole defence., which was based on doubt. They had no other explanation as they told the Jury it is not for them to decide how the injuries occurred If we are all honest It's likely Joey caused the injuries be it accidentally or deliberately, but Joey has been rightly acquitted as the prosecution couldn't prove it I guess we will never know how it happened now
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