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Post by legas on Nov 28, 2021 12:42:23 GMT
I just hope that the club is making sure it’s fully prepared for all potential outcomes, including a guilty verdict, a guilty verdict but with an appeal, or the easiest one to deal with being an innocent verdict. I really hope the communications are already being drafted and potential managerial plans considered for all eventualities rather than thinking about this at the last minute … but this is Rovers I suppose. You would hope that the club are taking seriously the chance of having to recruit a new man I’d be on the blower to G Monk C Hughton M Flynn S Campbell U Rosler Most are probably unwilling to drop to our level but if you don’t ask…. Some crazy fool may see us as a project to reignite their career Be just like Us to act all surprised IF found guilty and stumble along with a caretaker in the hope it all comes good. UTG To be honest I wouldn’t be against us recruiting internally until the end of the season but just hope whatever we do is being planned (I’m sure Joey would understand if we have these conversations). However, as much as I was against his appointment initially I’m hoping we don’t have the instability of a managerial change right now and I can see some signs of progress (even if it’s one step forward and another back at the moment).
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2021 14:03:24 GMT
You would hope that the club are taking seriously the chance of having to recruit a new man I’d be on the blower to G Monk C Hughton M Flynn S Campbell U Rosler Most are probably unwilling to drop to our level but if you don’t ask…. Some crazy fool may see us as a project to reignite their career Be just like Us to act all surprised IF found guilty and stumble along with a caretaker in the hope it all comes good. UTG To be honest I wouldn’t be against us recruiting internally until the end of the season but just hope whatever we do is being planned (I’m sure Joey would understand if we have these conversations). However, as much as I was against his appointment initially I’m hoping we don’t have the instability of a managerial change right now and I can see some signs of progress (even if it’s one step forward and another back at the moment). Only Kevin Bond seems suitable from within and I've no idea if he's interested in returning to management.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2021 14:07:17 GMT
I just hope that the club is making sure it’s fully prepared for all potential outcomes, including a guilty verdict, a guilty verdict but with an appeal, or the easiest one to deal with being an innocent verdict. I really hope the communications are already being drafted and potential managerial plans considered for all eventualities rather than thinking about this at the last minute … but this is Rovers I suppose. You would hope that the club are taking seriously the chance of having to recruit a new man I’d be on the blower to G Monk C Hughton M Flynn S Campbell U Rosler Most are probably unwilling to drop to our level but if you don’t ask…. Some crazy fool may see us as a project to reignite their career Be just like Us to act all surprised IF found guilty and stumble along with a caretaker in the hope it all comes good. UTG Why would Monk or Houghton consider dropping down to L2, the minimum they would manage are the likes of Ipswich in L1. Flynn seems to be stuck w/o a job longer than I expected, I just wonder if he's waiting on Barton's court cases. Perhaps a well paid L2 just across the Seven Bridge is what he's looking for.
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Post by pirate on Nov 28, 2021 14:08:07 GMT
To be honest I wouldn’t be against us recruiting internally until the end of the season but just hope whatever we do is being planned (I’m sure Joey would understand if we have these conversations). However, as much as I was against his appointment initially I’m hoping we don’t have the instability of a managerial change right now and I can see some signs of progress (even if it’s one step forward and another back at the moment). Only Kevin Bond seems suitable from within and I've no idea if he's interested in returning to management. Hopefully not.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 28, 2021 14:37:59 GMT
Only Kevin Bond seems suitable from within and I've no idea if he's interested in returning to management. Hopefully not. 😆👍💙
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Post by kampucheagas on Nov 28, 2021 15:55:23 GMT
You would hope that the club are taking seriously the chance of having to recruit a new man I’d be on the blower to G Monk C Hughton M Flynn S Campbell U Rosler Most are probably unwilling to drop to our level but if you don’t ask…. Some crazy fool may see us as a project to reignite their career Be just like Us to act all surprised IF found guilty and stumble along with a caretaker in the hope it all comes good. UTG Why would Monk or Houghton consider dropping down to L2, the minimum they would manage are the likes of Ipswich in L1. Flynn seems to be stuck w/o a job longer than I expected, I just wonder if he's waiting on Barton's court cases. Perhaps a well paid L2 just across the Seven Bridge is what he's looking for. Some names stay out of work for longer than they would like, and a challenge is seen as a way back in As I said, if you don’t ask….. Flynn would be my first choice now, think he could do well with the right backing.
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Post by fanatical on Nov 28, 2021 17:46:39 GMT
reading this thread leads me to think most seem to believe that our manager will not be our manager for much longer?
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Post by kampucheagas on Nov 28, 2021 18:12:57 GMT
reading this thread leads me to think most seem to believe that our manager will not be our manager for much longer? Just hoping we have a plan in case the trials prove him guilty. Going to be an interesting few weeks!! UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2021 18:59:55 GMT
reading this thread leads me to think most seem to believe that our manager will not be our manager for much longer? Suggest you read Legas' post no. 96 on the thread as that explains the following discussion, rather then just jumping to, incorrect, conclusions.
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Post by bobbyjones on Nov 28, 2021 19:20:03 GMT
reading this thread leads me to think most seem to believe that our manager will not be our manager for much longer? Suggest you read Legas' post no. 96 on the thread as that explains the following discussion, rather then just jumping to, incorrect, conclusions. No need to get bitchy is there, who says who is right and who is wrong, certainly not you.
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Post by casey12a on Nov 28, 2021 19:34:48 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that?
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Post by bobbyjones on Nov 28, 2021 19:41:33 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that? We cannot.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 28, 2021 21:36:18 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that? We cannot. Lay magistrates are more likely to convict and domestic violence is one thing the law is trying to crack down on, his chances of getting convicted on the second case are higher than the first , if there are witnesses , so I agree I think his chances are stacked against him a bit. May get away with the first one and having not offended for some time before the Stendel case , judge maybe more lenient on that case if he is found guilty.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 28, 2021 21:38:50 GMT
reading this thread leads me to think most seem to believe that our manager will not be our manager for much longer? Suggest you read Legas' post no. 96 on the thread as that explains the following discussion, rather then just jumping to, incorrect, conclusions. Knowall jumping to incorrect conclusions? Heaven forfend.
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Post by SleepyGas on Nov 29, 2021 10:09:34 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that? The interesting thing will be *if* he is found guilty in the Stendel case, but no custodial sentence deployed, will we sack him or keep him? I think the fact he was recruited with this case still hanging over him, it was possibly something that we might have overlooked if results were going our way. It's fair to say that he hasn't exactly impressed with his results so far (with a few exceptions) and with the addition of the trial for wife beating on the horizon it might make his position untenable if he is found guilty in this current one.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 29, 2021 11:03:57 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that? The interesting thing will be *if* he is found guilty in the Stendel case, but no custodial sentence deployed, will we sack him or keep him? I think the fact he was recruited with this case still hanging over him, it was possibly something that we might have overlooked if results were going our way. It's fair to say that he hasn't exactly impressed with his results so far (with a few exceptions) and with the addition of the trial for wife beating on the horizon it might make his position untenable if he is found guilty in this current one. I can see him staying under those circumstances with regards to the original case, the domestic abuse one is more likely to mean he's sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 11:16:57 GMT
I'd be surprised if he got anything for this one but the domestic abuse case is totally different. How could we employ him if he's found guilty of that? The interesting thing will be *if* he is found guilty in the Stendel case, but no custodial sentence deployed, will we sack him or keep him? I think the fact he was recruited with this case still hanging over him, it was possibly something that we might have overlooked if results were going our way. It's fair to say that he hasn't exactly impressed with his results so far (with a few exceptions) and with the addition of the trial for wife beating on the horizon it might make his position untenable if he is found guilty in this current one. That's very much how I see it. If guilty of the Stendel ABH case, no doubt the club will be advised by its lawyers as to need to issue a formal warning. The wife beating case will see him immediately dismissed if found guilty. That might just give us time to appoint a new manager in time for the January window. Personally, for the good of the club I'll be happy to see the back of him as no business can thrive with its bosses turning up in court quite so often as Barton.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 29, 2021 12:32:32 GMT
I hope JB is found not guilty, but if he is guilty I think he should go. Regardless of whether the club knew about the allegation JB denied the charges and I would have thought he was employed on that basis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 12:47:42 GMT
The interesting thing will be *if* he is found guilty in the Stendel case, but no custodial sentence deployed, will we sack him or keep him? I think the fact he was recruited with this case still hanging over him, it was possibly something that we might have overlooked if results were going our way. It's fair to say that he hasn't exactly impressed with his results so far (with a few exceptions) and with the addition of the trial for wife beating on the horizon it might make his position untenable if he is found guilty in this current one. That's very much how I see it. If guilty of the Stendel ABH case, no doubt the club will be advised by its lawyers as to need to issue a formal warning. The wife beating case will see him immediately dismissed if found guilty. That might just give us time to appoint a new manager in time for the January window. Personally, for the good of the club I'll be happy to see the back of him as no business can thrive with its bosses turning up in court quite so often as Barton. It’s on paper anyone found guilty of violence will be dismissed instantly.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 29, 2021 13:07:17 GMT
Was certainly risky by Wael to allow Barton free reign knowing he may be forced to sacked him and leave us with all his players and staff
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