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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Jan 14, 2022 1:27:12 GMT
FORMER Aston Villa footballer Glenn Whelan has dodged a road ban for speeding — because he needs to drive to games. He already had nine points on his licence when caught doing 49mph in a 40mph limit on the A55 near Bangor, Gwynned.
But he told Mold JPs he planned to become a player-coach at Bristol Rovers and a train would cost £200 each time.
The ex-Stoke and Sheffield Wednesday star said he could not rely on public transport to get home from evening games.
Whelan, 38, of Wilmslow, Cheshire, admitted speeding and was fined £307.
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Post by axegas on Jan 14, 2022 1:54:46 GMT
I bet his car insurance bills are through the roof at this point. He probably needs to work some extra hours as a coach to afford them.
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Post by Congas on Jan 14, 2022 6:21:29 GMT
Does he commute from Cheshire every day!?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2022 6:22:08 GMT
We are run by a bunch of criminals.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 7:23:20 GMT
49 in a 40.
Lock him up forever and throw away the key.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 14, 2022 8:18:50 GMT
49 in a 40. Lock him up forever and throw away the key. Is that Glenn’s age? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 14, 2022 8:19:16 GMT
(Before I get slammed for a little joke Glenn is a fantastic player for his age)
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 14, 2022 9:20:27 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits.
Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 9:38:41 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits. Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career. Or, perhaps the motoring authorities shouldn’t relentless concentrate on minor speed violations and concentrate on other things instead. You never see speed traps where they are needed, just generally where they are most likely to generate revenue. I’d rather have a Bobby on the beat tackling knife crime and people robbing old grannies then people trying to get to work exceeding limits by minor amounts. Before anyone asks, yes, I lost a close relative in a car crash. |
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 14, 2022 9:59:56 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits. Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career. Or, perhaps the motoring authorities shouldn’t relentless concentrate on minor speed violations and concentrate on other things instead. You never see speed traps where they are needed, just generally where they are most likely to generate revenue. I’d rather have a Bobby on the beat tackling knife crime and people robbing old grannies then people trying to get to work exceeding limits by minor amounts. Before anyone asks, yes, I lost a close relative in a car crash. It’s an interesting topic I got fined for doing 34 in a 30 I was livid and had to do the online course However my attitude changed after the course and I now drive much safer Some of the lunatics on the road beggars belief I’m never as angry as when I’m driving However I do agree it isn’t a system which works People simply drive like dicks outside the camera zones and then drop speed when they approach one. Surely this is far worse than having hidden cameras or spot checks instead? Do away with the bloody thousands of cameras and regulate the danger spots with random checks? Got to be a better system that punishes drivers for reckless driving when they don’t EXPECT to be? Anyway hope he does join the coaching team Good signs. UTG |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2022 10:01:42 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits. Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career. Not knowing your circumstances LMW but if you are on a relatively clean licence you’ll just be dealt with by means of the fixed penalty notice unless substantially above the speed limit. About 10 years ago I was caught by an unmarked car doing 62mph in a 30mph zone going from the A38 towards Iron Acton. Sounds horrendous I know, but the road I was on had previously changed from a 50mph zone and one of the signs as it turned out had not been clearly marked. That said there was another sign on the other side of the road which I had not seen so I was bang to rights. I had to attend court and my solicitor had warned me that as I was double the limit, no matter the excuse, I was likely to be facing a 6 month suspension as a minimum as usually that’s the sort of punishment for the crime. The magistrate did allow me to explain the events and also asked what I did for a living. When I told him I was in the motor trade he asked me if I needed my licence for work. I told him more than that I was self employed and I wouldn’t know how to cope without it. I also said that I would be happy to pay a larger fine if it meant I could keep my licence. In the end I ended up paying under £1200 in fines and costs and 6 points and a good ear bashing from the 3 of them and it was made very clear to me that it was the dependency of my licence for my job that meant I hadn’t had it torn up and chucked in the bin. I didn’t feel I had wriggled out of anything come the end of that. I was crapping myself for the whole 6 weeks prior to and it was an experience I never want to have again. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jan 14, 2022 10:12:43 GMT
No excuse when you already have points. Yes, it's just money making but to get banned you either have to be doing something really bad or not learnt from previous mistakes.
Doesn't stop people driving like idiots or speeding away from camera areas though. Still annoyed how I got caught, was a bit sneaky but not for here.
Found it quite amusing when a bloke on the awareness course hid outside then ran in at the last second.
'Sorry, had to put my foot down to get here'
Thankfully the person taking the course saw the funny side and was open to discussion regarding money and lack of police for 'proper' crime
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 14, 2022 10:33:57 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits. Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career. Not knowing your circumstances LMW but if you are on a relatively clean licence you’ll just be dealt with by means of the fixed penalty notice unless substantially above the speed limit. About 10 years ago I was caught by an unmarked car doing 62mph in a 30mph zone going from the A38 towards Iron Acton. Sounds horrendous I know, but the road I was on had previously changed from a 50mph zone and one of the signs as it turned out had not been clearly marked. That said there was another sign on the other side of the road which I had not seen so I was bang to rights. I had to attend court and my solicitor had warned me that as I was double the limit, no matter the excuse, I was likely to be facing a 6 month suspension as a minimum as usually that’s the sort of punishment for the crime. The magistrate did allow me to explain the events and also asked what I did for a living. When I told him I was in the motor trade he asked me if I needed my licence for work. I told him more than that I was self employed and I wouldn’t know how to cope without it. I also said that I would be happy to pay a larger fine if it meant I could keep my licence. In the end I ended up paying under £1200 in fines and costs and 6 points and a good ear bashing from the 3 of them and it was made very clear to me that it was the dependency of my licence for my job that meant I hadn’t had it torn up and chucked in the bin. I didn’t feel I had wriggled out of anything come the end of that. I was crapping myself for the whole 6 weeks prior to and it was an experience I never want to have again. Bet you where behind the wheel of a SLK ! Now that is a car..... |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 14, 2022 10:35:40 GMT
Don't wanna sound harsh but its his own fault, knowing he was on 9pts already he should have been even more careful to stick to the limits. Ive got done for exactly the same mph over the max limit on the Portway and I couldnt wriggle out of it, why is he different. cant imagine he is short of a few bob either going by his career. It's quite common really. Most that appeal get off, if they need a car to get to work. I've known a few people who have done it, everyone of them, kept their licence. Plus most can get off their first 3 points, if they sit a safety course. Got nothing to do with money, or who he is. I don't agree with it. Like you say it's their fault and if they are continuously breaking the rules, then they deserve to lose their licence! One of them was even a taxi driver, but they when he reapplied for his licence, he got turned down! He's appealing it now, hopefully he gets turned down again! |
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Post by Baxtinho on Jan 14, 2022 10:38:03 GMT
Is it reported elsewhere so I can read it?
#DontBuyTheSun
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 11:16:09 GMT
I have a 67 in a 60 (Sunday - entirely clear motorway)
Did the course.
Then I got 56 in a 50 (going into bright sunlight - exactly why they put their van where they did)
Pre Covid I did 20k-40k a year.
It’s almost impossible to not stray 5-10 miles over the limit on occasion if you’re doing 40k miles a year.
I used to say “I manage it ok” when I wasn’t doing so many miles.
There are some very harsh attitudes towards driving. On the Facebook pages I see people blowing fractions over the legal limit and people wanting them to get 15 years inside.
It’s all relatives. I’d rather be driven by someone who has driven for a living for many years on 3 pints, than someone not confident driving who’s sober.
Same with speed. Speed isn’t the main issue on the roads I observe.
Excessive speed at innapropriate times.
Always very slow around schools and where there are people.
But they don’t put cameras there, they put them on dual carriageways, just where the road starts to dip and gravity might put 5mph on your speed.
I’m out of step with most of the world as I want less regulation of arbitrary things, and harsher regulation of driving aggressively.
I think in general society gets less forgiving, and there is a constant drive towards “zero tolerance” of what you say, what you do, your bin being slightly open at the top, your car being 3mm over the white line….bah.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 14, 2022 11:29:59 GMT
I get both sides of this argument, what gets me is the amount of nutters out there driving like tossers and they are the ones escaping the punishment because they have a device in their car which tells them exactly where a speed camera is. You see it all the time. Braking and slowing down and then racing off
You can’t tell me that’s a proper way to regulate speed?
Anyway, next generation will all be driven by self driving cars and us dinosaurs will laugh at how we used to get fines for this and that….
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Post by blueridge on Jan 14, 2022 11:40:28 GMT
Thanks for some of the info on here. I was always led to believe that the tolerance levels on speeding were the speed limit + 10% + 2 mph. If you are above the speed limit + 10% + 9 mph (86 mph motorway) it is a mandatory fine and a minimum of 3 points irrespective if you have a clean licence with no option of a speed awareness course. I've always set my limiter on the motorway at 78 and have had no issues now for at least 10 years.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 14, 2022 12:00:43 GMT
Thanks for some of the info on here. I was always led to believe that the tolerance levels on speeding were the speed limit + 10% + 2 mph. If you are above the speed limit + 10% + 9 mph (86 mph motorway) it is a mandatory fine and a minimum of 3 points irrespective if you have a clean licence with no option of a speed awareness course. I've always set my limiter on the motorway at 78 and have had no issues now for at least 10 years. It depends on the police force, Avon and Somerset do as do many (there is a website somewhere). I once drifted to 23 in a 20 zone right in front of the mobile camera without anything happening so think it's true in practice. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 12:19:36 GMT
Thanks for some of the info on here. I was always led to believe that the tolerance levels on speeding were the speed limit + 10% + 2 mph. If you are above the speed limit + 10% + 9 mph (86 mph motorway) it is a mandatory fine and a minimum of 3 points irrespective if you have a clean licence with no option of a speed awareness course. I've always set my limiter on the motorway at 78 and have had no issues now for at least 10 years. It depends on the police force, Avon and Somerset do as do many (there is a website somewhere). I once drifted to 23 in a 20 zone right in front of the mobile camera without anything happening so think it's true in practice. Car speedometers display a higher MPH than you’re doing. 23 is probably about 20-21 in reality. |
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