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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 14, 2022 14:39:22 GMT
The course is an eye opener for sure
Should be compulsory for all new drivers to do the course before they first hit the roads.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jan 14, 2022 15:29:25 GMT
A small percentage of total fatalities on our roads are caused on the motorway Most deaths occur along country lanes and in built up areas where speed is an obvious issue If people realised there was no point in bursting every vein in their body to take over and save 6 seconds on their journey we’d all be better off.ALways amuses me when you can see they are busting to overtake you. Finally they do and end up one place in front of you at the lights. Well that was worth it! No point trying to rush around Bristol it aint happening Yes, no matter how fast, or slow, you drive in Bristol, you always catch up to the car in front.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jan 14, 2022 16:02:26 GMT
ALways amuses me when you can see they are busting to overtake you. Finally they do and end up one place in front of you at the lights. Well that was worth it! No point trying to rush around Bristol it aint happening Yes, no matter how fast, or slow, you drive in Bristol, you always catch up to the car in front. A couple of years ago I worked in Avonmouth and took the portway home. At the time I was driving a Mazda 3 mps (2.7 ltr turbo for those who don't know) Loads to insure, loads to tax and a very thirsty engine. Anyway.. I used to race through the first part where its 2 lanes to try to overtake as many cars as possible before the single lane part, by the time I got to the Cumberland basin i would look in the rear view mirror only to see all those cars I overtook were, at the most two cars behind me. Drive a 1 ltr fiat 500 now, lowest insurance i've ever had, no tax and currently doing 41 mpg,only to look in the mirror and see the same thing. Having a fast car is a mugs game unless you're minted or stupid or both
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Post by yattongas on Jan 14, 2022 16:02:46 GMT
49 in a 40. Lock him up forever and throw away the key. Yeah we should be free to speed when ever and wherever we like . Freedom innit 🇬🇧
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 14, 2022 17:25:02 GMT
No excuses in my opinion, slow down or face the consequences.
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Post by aghast on Jan 14, 2022 21:29:20 GMT
Only ever had two speeding fines, and both in the last two years. I'm getting old.....
One was the camera on Gloucester Road between the Inn in the Green and the Ring Road. No excuses. 37 in a 30 zone. It's hardly your average subarban street, but the signs are there and the camera is visible.
Other time was in Bath. 26 mph in a 20 zone at 8am on a Sunday. Didn't see the camera and it never occurred to me it was a 20 zone. Thought I was crawling along and being very responsible!
I was guilty on both occasions though and wouldn't have attempted to plead mitigation.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2022 21:53:12 GMT
It's hardly the crime of the century, and speeding fines are basically cash cows, but mitigation? Do me a favour.
The speed limits aren't that hard to follow and let's be fair, you get 3 chances before you lose your licence.
If you have 3 points you are normal. 6 points, a bit silly. 9 points you are a twat and if you can't watch your speed when you already have 9 points for speeding then you probably shouldn't be driving.
How hard is it really to follow the speed limit
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 22:39:26 GMT
No excuses in my opinion, slow down or face the consequences. He said, rubbing his crotch with thought of the authority and punishments…. Cool logo by the way. I was going to speed but having seen that I’m slowing to a crawl. It’s worked!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2022 22:39:48 GMT
All this talk about speeding and it made me book a load of sessions at the Avonmouth kart track tonight.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 14, 2022 22:43:09 GMT
It's hardly the crime of the century, and speeding fines are basically cash cows, but mitigation? Do me a favour. The speed limits aren't that hard to follow and let's be fair, you get 3 chances before you lose your licence. If you have 3 points you are normal. 6 points, a bit silly. 9 points you are a twat and if you can't watch your speed when you already have 9 points for speeding then you probably shouldn't be driving. How hard is it really to follow the speed limit Depends on how many miles you’re doing. It would be interesting to see how many accidents are caused by focusing on speed and avoiding traps…but wait, there’s no data for that. Funny, nobody has done a research to show how many accidents are caused by staring at the Speedo and not the road. I know personably on heavily cameras motorways I do find I am extremely conscious of the Speedo sometimes at the detriment of road awareness.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 14, 2022 22:46:59 GMT
All this talk about speeding and it made me book a load of sessions at the Avonmouth kart track tonight. Fishponds track is pretty fun!
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 14, 2022 22:47:52 GMT
It's hardly the crime of the century, and speeding fines are basically cash cows, but mitigation? Do me a favour. The speed limits aren't that hard to follow and let's be fair, you get 3 chances before you lose your licence. If you have 3 points you are normal. 6 points, a bit silly. 9 points you are a twat and if you can't watch your speed when you already have 9 points for speeding then you probably shouldn't be driving. How hard is it really to follow the speed limit Depends on how many miles you’re doing. It would be interesting to see how many accidents are caused by focusing on speed and avoiding traps…but wait, there’s no data for that. Funny, nobody has done a research to show how many accidents are caused by staring at the Speedo and not the road. I know personably on heavily cameras motorways I do find I am extremely conscious of the Speedo sometimes at the detriment of road awareness. Totally agree on a camera motorway you spend more time looking at your Speedo etc rather than the surroundings, even though I have radar cruise control etc, I also got a speed warning letter today, the first in 34 years of driving and a average of 30k plus a year.
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Post by farmygas on Jan 14, 2022 23:18:54 GMT
More pending cases than points.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 14, 2022 23:32:33 GMT
It's hardly the crime of the century, and speeding fines are basically cash cows, but mitigation? Do me a favour. The speed limits aren't that hard to follow and let's be fair, you get 3 chances before you lose your licence. If you have 3 points you are normal. 6 points, a bit silly. 9 points you are a twat and if you can't watch your speed when you already have 9 points for speeding then you probably shouldn't be driving. How hard is it really to follow the speed limit Depends on how many miles you’re doing. It would be interesting to see how many accidents are caused by focusing on speed and avoiding traps…but wait, there’s no data for that. Funny, nobody has done a research to show how many accidents are caused by staring at the Speedo and not the road. I know personably on heavily cameras motorways I do find I am extremely conscious of the Speedo sometimes at the detriment of road awareness. If you don’t speed then you don’t need to worry about it..
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 15, 2022 6:50:04 GMT
Depends on how many miles you’re doing. It would be interesting to see how many accidents are caused by focusing on speed and avoiding traps…but wait, there’s no data for that. Funny, nobody has done a research to show how many accidents are caused by staring at the Speedo and not the road. I know personably on heavily cameras motorways I do find I am extremely conscious of the Speedo sometimes at the detriment of road awareness. If you don’t speed then you don’t need to worry about it.. That doesn’t make sense. How do you know if you’re speeding if you don’t look at your Speedo. I’ve had 2 in 23 years snd religiously stick to speed limits, as previously described, caught twice doing 5mph over where it was either absent mindedness or poor visibility. Not being caught being deliberately reckless. I think those with jobs which involve driving will recognise. If you’re driving to the newsagents once a week in your corsa then it’s easy enough ;-)
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 15, 2022 7:03:47 GMT
All this talk about speeding and it made me book a load of sessions at the Avonmouth kart track tonight. Fishponds track is pretty fun! Not been. I’ve heard good things though.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 15, 2022 7:13:54 GMT
If you don’t speed then you don’t need to worry about it.. That doesn’t make sense. How do you know if you’re speeding if you don’t look at your Speedo. I’ve had 2 in 23 years snd religiously stick to speed limits, as previously described, caught twice doing 5mph over where it was either absent mindedness or poor visibility. Not being caught being deliberately reckless. I think those with jobs which involve driving will recognise. If you’re driving to the newsagents once a week in your corsa then it’s easy enough ;-) The sky is blue.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 15, 2022 7:41:24 GMT
That doesn’t make sense. How do you know if you’re speeding if you don’t look at your Speedo. I’ve had 2 in 23 years snd religiously stick to speed limits, as previously described, caught twice doing 5mph over where it was either absent mindedness or poor visibility. Not being caught being deliberately reckless. I think those with jobs which involve driving will recognise. If you’re driving to the newsagents once a week in your corsa then it’s easy enough ;-) The sky is blue. No it isn’t!
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 15, 2022 8:26:32 GMT
In Camarthenshire the camera vans are out in force 0900-1600, manned mainly by retired police officers. They have a field day catching us OAP's breaking the speed limit on the way to Tescos.You only have to attend one of these courses to see the vast majority of those attending are of senior years. This is the only way the mobile speed camera partnership's can finance the operation as it is entirely self financed and the wages and costs for a twenty four hour operation do not stack up. Then at night they are nowhere to be seen when the roads suddenly become race tracks and speeding is the norm. The fixed cameras are a different ball game and have become cash cows for obvious reasons.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 15, 2022 8:36:27 GMT
In Camarthenshire the camera vans are out in force 0900-1600, manned mainly by retired police officers. They have a field day catching us OAP's breaking the speed limit on the way to Tescos.You only have to attend one of these courses to see the vast majority of those attending are of senior years. This is the only way the mobile speed camera partnership's can finance the operation as it is entirely self financed and the wages and costs for a twenty four hour operation do not stack up. Then at night they are nowhere to be seen when the roads suddenly become race tracks and speeding is the norm. The fixed cameras are a different ball game and have become cash cows for obvious reasons. I agree, I’m not quite 40 but both my parents have been done. I started driving in an era of cameras so I am camera aware. My parents probably drive about 5 miles a year. They got my dad for a 30 Zone a road doing 35 and my mum, she moved into a bus lane 5 foot (literally 5 foot, just her front wheel) over the white line. Motorists generally have money. They are contactable. You have the hammer blow of “if you don’t like it you are costing lives” as a defence to the policy. I attended the course and much of what it says is true. The 30/20 limits aren’t necessarily set on braking distances etc but the damage to humans ie a low speed crash of a pedestrian is survivable. Doesn’t explain why camera traps are deliberately set in places where motorists driving to sensible conditions (ie no humans about) might exceed the limit. It was indeed mostly older people on my course. I would concentrate on less enforcement of minor infractions and come down really, really heavy on dangerous driving. Let people know their own limits and take dangerous and careless drivers who cause harm to the cleaners. Rant over, as Hugo said, I will start an argument in an empty room and I’ve ranted enough. Seems to coincide with hangovers :-)
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