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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 12:33:03 GMT
Or, perhaps the motoring authorities shouldn’t relentless concentrate on minor speed violations and concentrate on other things instead. You never see speed traps where they are needed, just generally where they are most likely to generate revenue. I’d rather have a Bobby on the beat tackling knife crime and people robbing old grannies then people trying to get to work exceeding limits by minor amounts. Before anyone asks, yes, I lost a close relative in a car crash. It’s an interesting topic I got fined for doing 34 in a 30 I was livid and had to do the online course However my attitude changed after the course and I now drive much safer Some of the lunatics on the road beggars belief I’m never as angry as when I’m driving However I do agree it isn’t a system which works People simply drive like dicks outside the camera zones and then drop speed when they approach one. Surely this is far worse than having hidden cameras or spot checks instead? Do away with the bloody thousands of cameras and regulate the danger spots with random checks? Got to be a better system that punishes drivers for reckless driving when they don’t EXPECT to be? Anyway hope he does join the coaching team Good signs. UTG I was done for driving a little Peugeot 107 at 33 mph in a 30 limit on a clear road, not another car in sight ... had to give up a day's work to attend a course. I'm a careful driver anyway and must be honest I learn't nothing new from the course. I had read about the discretionary margin but the coppers said it was just discretionary and it was up to me if I wanted to take a chance with the magistrates. Still angry years after.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jan 14, 2022 12:35:36 GMT
Glenn can join Rollin Mayonnaise in the Gas motoring offences hall of shame.
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Post by ineedgas on Jan 14, 2022 12:55:26 GMT
It depends on the police force, Avon and Somerset do as do many (there is a website somewhere). I once drifted to 23 in a 20 zone right in front of the mobile camera without anything happening so think it's true in practice. Car speedometers display a higher MPH than you’re doing. 23 is probably about 20-21 in reality. Ahh maybe that's why my sat nav speed is less than the car speedo says 🚙🚓
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 12:58:13 GMT
49 in a 40. Lock him up forever and throw away the key. Is that Glenn’s age? Worst porn search ever.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 14, 2022 13:01:05 GMT
Do You know the smart motorway at Almondsbury junction earns south Glous/Govt £100,000 month in fines..... including some from me ...
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 13:11:19 GMT
Do You know the smart motorway at Almondsbury junction earns south Glous/Govt £100,000 month in fines..... including some from me ... £1.2 mil a year in fines? That can't be right.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2022 13:12:23 GMT
Do You know the smart motorway at Almondsbury junction earns south Glous/Govt £100,000 month in fines..... including some from me ... £1.2 mil a year in fines? That can't be right. Far too low
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 14, 2022 13:18:14 GMT
Do You know the smart motorway at Almondsbury junction earns south Glous/Govt £100,000 month in fines..... including some from me ... £1.2 mil a year in fines? That can't be right. Was told this by a Traffic Control officer who works in the management centre and he said there would be more but they don't have the processing capability to do them all !!!
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 13:24:33 GMT
£1.2 mil a year in fines? That can't be right. Was told this by a Traffic Control officer who works in the management centre and he said there would be more but they don't have the processing capability to do them all !!! Has a got a new BMW?
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2022 13:30:20 GMT
Desperate for 3 points obviously.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 14, 2022 13:33:39 GMT
Was told this by a Traffic Control officer who works in the management centre and he said there would be more but they don't have the processing capability to do them all !!! Has a got a new BMW? Skoda 120
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 14, 2022 13:37:50 GMT
I once got done doing 35Mph downhill in a 30 zone.
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 13:41:07 GMT
I once got done doing 35Mph downhill in a 30 zone. I've been drunk going down Pearces Hill in Frenchay faster than that. When you're legs get away from you.....
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 13:42:43 GMT
£1.2 mil a year in fines? That can't be right. Far too low Luckily for you, your Mini won't get you into trouble with speeding.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2022 13:51:43 GMT
Not knowing your circumstances LMW but if you are on a relatively clean licence you’ll just be dealt with by means of the fixed penalty notice unless substantially above the speed limit. About 10 years ago I was caught by an unmarked car doing 62mph in a 30mph zone going from the A38 towards Iron Acton. Sounds horrendous I know, but the road I was on had previously changed from a 50mph zone and one of the signs as it turned out had not been clearly marked. That said there was another sign on the other side of the road which I had not seen so I was bang to rights. I had to attend court and my solicitor had warned me that as I was double the limit, no matter the excuse, I was likely to be facing a 6 month suspension as a minimum as usually that’s the sort of punishment for the crime. The magistrate did allow me to explain the events and also asked what I did for a living. When I told him I was in the motor trade he asked me if I needed my licence for work. I told him more than that I was self employed and I wouldn’t know how to cope without it. I also said that I would be happy to pay a larger fine if it meant I could keep my licence. In the end I ended up paying under £1200 in fines and costs and 6 points and a good ear bashing from the 3 of them and it was made very clear to me that it was the dependency of my licence for my job that meant I hadn’t had it torn up and chucked in the bin. I didn’t feel I had wriggled out of anything come the end of that. I was crapping myself for the whole 6 weeks prior to and it was an experience I never want to have again. Bet you where behind the wheel of a SLK ! Now that is a car..... That was the other annoying thing, I wasnt in anything that exotic, but my c class 2.0L diesel...
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2022 13:52:47 GMT
Who's Glenn Whelan?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2022 14:05:38 GMT
I have a 67 in a 60 (Sunday - entirely clear motorway) Did the course. Then I got 56 in a 50 (going into bright sunlight - exactly why they put their van where they did) Pre Covid I did 20k-40k a year. It’s almost impossible to not stray 5-10 miles over the limit on occasion if you’re doing 40k miles a year. I used to say “I manage it ok” when I wasn’t doing so many miles. There are some very harsh attitudes towards driving. On the Facebook pages I see people blowing fractions over the legal limit and people wanting them to get 15 years inside. It’s all relatives. I’d rather be driven by someone who has driven for a living for many years on 3 pints, than someone not confident driving who’s sober. Same with speed. Speed isn’t the main issue on the roads I observe. Excessive speed at innapropriate times. Always very slow around schools and where there are people. But they don’t put cameras there, they put them on dual carriageways, just where the road starts to dip and gravity might put 5mph on your speed. I’m out of step with most of the world as I want less regulation of arbitrary things, and harsher regulation of driving aggressively. I think in general society gets less forgiving, and there is a constant drive towards “zero tolerance” of what you say, what you do, your bin being slightly open at the top, your car being 3mm over the white line….bah. Exactly right on this. What causes the collisions is lapses in concentration, being distracted by something or someone or complete incompetence. Most people when travelling quickly will have a greater concentration than those plodding. Dont even get me started on the lane hoggers which contribute to most of the dumbest driving youll ever witness.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 14, 2022 14:13:31 GMT
I have a 67 in a 60 (Sunday - entirely clear motorway) Did the course. Then I got 56 in a 50 (going into bright sunlight - exactly why they put their van where they did) Pre Covid I did 20k-40k a year. It’s almost impossible to not stray 5-10 miles over the limit on occasion if you’re doing 40k miles a year. I used to say “I manage it ok” when I wasn’t doing so many miles. There are some very harsh attitudes towards driving. On the Facebook pages I see people blowing fractions over the legal limit and people wanting them to get 15 years inside. It’s all relatives. I’d rather be driven by someone who has driven for a living for many years on 3 pints, than someone not confident driving who’s sober. Same with speed. Speed isn’t the main issue on the roads I observe. Excessive speed at innapropriate times. Always very slow around schools and where there are people. But they don’t put cameras there, they put them on dual carriageways, just where the road starts to dip and gravity might put 5mph on your speed. I’m out of step with most of the world as I want less regulation of arbitrary things, and harsher regulation of driving aggressively. I think in general society gets less forgiving, and there is a constant drive towards “zero tolerance” of what you say, what you do, your bin being slightly open at the top, your car being 3mm over the white line….bah. Exactly right on this. What causes the collisions is lapses in concentration, being distracted by something or someone or complete incompetence. Most people when travelling quickly will have a greater concentration than those plodding. Dont even get me started on the lane hoggers which contribute to most of the dumbest driving youll ever witness. A small percentage of total fatalities on our roads are caused on the motorway Most deaths occur along country lanes and in built up areas where speed is an obvious issue If people realised there was no point in bursting every vein in their body to take over and save 6 seconds on their journey we’d all be better off.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 14, 2022 14:27:35 GMT
Exactly right on this. What causes the collisions is lapses in concentration, being distracted by something or someone or complete incompetence. Most people when travelling quickly will have a greater concentration than those plodding. Dont even get me started on the lane hoggers which contribute to most of the dumbest driving youll ever witness. A small percentage of total fatalities on our roads are caused on the motorway Most deaths occur along country lanes and in built up areas where speed is an obvious issue If people realised there was no point in bursting every vein in their body to take over and save 6 seconds on their journey we’d all be better off.ALways amuses me when you can see they are busting to overtake you. Finally they do and end up one place in front of you at the lights. Well that was worth it! No point trying to rush around Bristol it aint happening
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Jan 14, 2022 14:34:45 GMT
Thanks for some of the info on here. I was always led to believe that the tolerance levels on speeding were the speed limit + 10% + 2 mph. If you are above the speed limit + 10% + 9 mph (86 mph motorway) it is a mandatory fine and a minimum of 3 points irrespective if you have a clean licence with no option of a speed awareness course. I've always set my limiter on the motorway at 78 and have had no issues now for at least 10 years. I’m pretty certain it varies depending on force…. The 2 times I’ve been done for speeding has both been when I was doing 34mph in a 30… one was by fixed camera and the other was a mobile unit… in both cases I was slowing down as I was coming out of a 40mph zone - just didn’t slow down quick enough and both times I was the only car driving on the road with nothing else around…. Both were also Avon & Somerset… Was incredibly annoying and frustrating as I felt more focus should be put on those excessive speeders and maniac drivers etc but as the guy said to me on the course… we’re you above the speed limit - in which case your breaking the law and for those of us who have done the course, they show why the limits set at 30 and what impact each 1mph above has on the damage that can be done if you hit a person or reaction times etc….
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