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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 13, 2022 9:02:37 GMT
I think the teams we want to avoid are those fighting for their lives. I think I'd rather play a team in and around us. Thankfully when we do play Scunthorpe, their fate is already sealed Unfortunately I remember Cardiff away under Holloway when they were already down
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Post by blueridge on Mar 13, 2022 9:04:09 GMT
Are FGR imploding? - no longer guaranteed automatic imo. Season 1999/2000 we had 74 points (Cureton & Roberts era) and only managed six points from our last 10 matches and failed to even reach the play offs with 80 points. All still to play for I reckon although top spot probably too much, but most of us were saying automatics was unlikely just a few weeks ago.
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Post by oldie on Mar 13, 2022 9:14:49 GMT
Well, I watched the last two games. Newport, who are above us, never looked like being beaten. The first 30 minutes yesterday and Harrogate really should have scored two. Their number 9 was an oaf so he was never where he should have been as the ball rolled across our goal, on 2 or 3 occasions.
We won't get away with that against teams around us who are equally desperate for points.
But the most concerning thing for me is the apparent reliance on E. Anderson. He was carving them up almost everytime he had the ball.
Watching both those games I was never quite sure what our tactics are, but it is very clear we have some very good players who should get us promoted. But it is going to take some recruitment in the summer to replace those players who are on loan from clubs higher up the pyramid.
But one problem at a time, it's in our hands, win those remaining games and we will be playing L1.
Sustainable? Emmmm
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 13, 2022 9:19:24 GMT
The next two away games against Northampton and Carlisle, could be season defining, given that we've struggled so far against top 7 teams away from home and Carlisle, since Paul Simpson became manager, have matched us current form wise and EA will miss at least that match.
I doubt we can afford not to win at least one of those games if we want automatic promotion.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 13, 2022 9:22:24 GMT
L2 looking to shape up very Northern next year as well - need to get promoted.
4 teams facing the drop to L2: Fleetwood, Wimbledon, Gillingham, Morecambe, Doncaster, Crewe
4 teams being promoted from L2: FGR, Northampton, Newport, Tranmere, Exeter, Swindon, Sutton, Mansfield, Vale
2 teams going down from L2: Orient, Barrow, Stevenage, Oldham, Scunthorpe
2 team coming up to L2: Stockport, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Halifax, Boreham Wood, Solihull Moors, Grimsby, Notts County
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 13, 2022 9:22:26 GMT
Are FGR imploding? - no longer guaranteed automatic imo. Season 1999/2000 we had 74 points (Cureton & Roberts era) and only managed six points from our last 10 matches and failed to even reach the play offs with 80 points. All still to play for I reckon although top spot probably too much, but most of us were saying automatics was unlikely just a few weeks ago. FGR have clearly imploded, they've some tough looking fixtures coming up and if they get caught, like Mansfield have done this weekend, who would have been in the top 3 with a win at Tranmere, could drop right out of the top 7.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Mar 13, 2022 9:26:17 GMT
Are FGR imploding? - no longer guaranteed automatic imo. Season 1999/2000 we had 74 points (Cureton & Roberts era) and only managed six points from our last 10 matches and failed to even reach the play offs with 80 points. All still to play for I reckon although top spot probably too much, but most of us were saying automatics was unlikely just a few weeks ago. Possibly, but they still have a nine point advantage over 4th place, with a game in hand too. They also play a lot of teams in the bottom half of the table. For me the favourites for the top three currently are FGR, Exeter and Newport.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 13, 2022 9:28:10 GMT
It’s April that’s the challenge and will sort out whether we are good enough or not. There may also be an negative reaction as a result of JB being away with his impending court case causing some disruption to the day to day running. March Colchester H - Win Northampton A - Draw Carlisle A - Draw April Bradford H - Draw Tranmere A - Lose Salford H - Win Port Vale A - Lose FGR H - Win Rochdale A - Draw May Scunthorpe H - Win Being optimistic 16 out of 30 for me - will it be enough ? This league is so unpredictable. The form table is changing each week but there a few constants. Working on 6 game blocks, We are top of it and have been for 6 weeks and 3 of the top 7 are in terrible form. The points swing in our favour yesterday was massive after Exeter, Mansfield, Northampton and Sutton all dropped points. Using the 6 game block form method shows teams coming into the most recent form which is applicable for upcoming fixtures. If you use that then looking at the upcoming games then Carlisle and Salford are the most difficult games. Tranmere, Northampton and FGR look very winnable fixtures.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Mar 13, 2022 9:29:15 GMT
The next two away games against Northampton and Carlisle, could be season defining, given that we've struggled so far against top 7 teams away from home and Carlisle, since Paul Simpson became manager, have matched us current form wise and EA will miss at least that match. I doubt we can afford not to win at least one of those games if we want automatic promotion. How well we do in the four away games at Northampton, Carlisle, Tranmere & Port Vale will be define our season. We have to win Tuesday night then the aim should then be to avoid defeat at Northampton.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 13, 2022 9:36:33 GMT
Are FGR imploding? - no longer guaranteed automatic imo. Season 1999/2000 we had 74 points (Cureton & Roberts era) and only managed six points from our last 10 matches and failed to even reach the play offs with 80 points. All still to play for I reckon although top spot probably too much, but most of us were saying automatics was unlikely just a few weeks ago. Possibly, but they still have a nine point advantage over 4th place, with a game in hand too. They also play a lot of teams in the bottom half of the table. For me the favourites for the top three currently are FGR, Exeter and Newport. At this stage of the season I would rather be playing teams with something to play for rather than nothing to play for. Each point collected means a good swing in your favour should you get a result. It creates open games where there are more opportunities where as clubs in mid-table safety, the pressure is off, they can just come with a game plan to stifle you as they are expecting a beating. That said we have been fairly disappointing against the top 8 clubs this year but have gotten results W or D against Sutton, Northampton, Tranmere, Exeter and Swindon as well as collecting a few L’s so it’s not all bad.
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 13, 2022 9:41:47 GMT
I think the teams we want to avoid are those fighting for their lives. I think I'd rather play a team in and around us. Thankfully when we do play Scunthorpe, their fate is already sealed id rather Scunthorpe had something to play for, and had to come at us. An team already down, are playing with the weight already off there shoulder.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Mar 13, 2022 9:49:47 GMT
Are FGR imploding? - no longer guaranteed automatic imo. Season 1999/2000 we had 74 points (Cureton & Roberts era) and only managed six points from our last 10 matches and failed to even reach the play offs with 80 points. All still to play for I reckon although top spot probably too much, but most of us were saying automatics was unlikely just a few weeks ago. Has a cheeky fiver on us to win the league at 200/1. I remember us imploding that season and losing becomes a habit just like winning does, so you just never know.
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 13, 2022 9:50:38 GMT
March Colchester H - Win Northampton A - Win Carlisle A - Win April Bradford H - Win Tranmere A - Win Salford H - Win Port Vale A - Win FGR H - Win Rochdale A - Win May Scunthorpe H - Win Just being optimistic and the team won't believe anything else, they'll be going into every match the same. I think we will possibly get draws away at Northampton, Tranmere and port vale but all winnable, need to keep Belly, Connor Taylor Sam Finley and Aaron Collins fit, key players for the run in, have a premonition Ryan Loft will score a decisive goal to send us up, you heard it here first! UTG The Gas are coming!
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Post by socrates on Mar 13, 2022 10:01:45 GMT
I think the teams we want to avoid are those fighting for their lives. I think I'd rather play a team in and around us. Thankfully when we do play Scunthorpe, their fate is already sealed id rather Scunthorpe had something to play for, and had to come at us. An team already down, are playing with the weight already off there shoulder. [br Yeah daggers put up a hell of a fight that promotion day especially their keeper.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 13, 2022 10:05:22 GMT
I think the teams we want to avoid are those fighting for their lives. I think I'd rather play a team in and around us. Thankfully when we do play Scunthorpe, their fate is already sealed id rather Scunthorpe had something to play for, and had to come at us. An team already down, are playing with the weight already off there shoulder. I think it's hard to say in these situations. Depends on the team in question in particular.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 13, 2022 10:13:11 GMT
Well, I watched the last two games. Newport, who are above us, never looked like being beaten. The first 30 minutes yesterday and Harrogate really should have scored two. Their number 9 was an oaf so he was never where he should have been as the ball rolled across our goal, on 2 or 3 occasions. We won't get away with that against teams around us who are equally desperate for points. But the most concerning thing for me is the apparent reliance on E. Anderson. He was carving them up almost everytime he had the ball. Watching both those games I was never quite sure what our tactics are, but it is very clear we have some very good players who should get us promoted. But it is going to take some recruitment in the summer to replace those players who are on loan from clubs higher up the pyramid. But one problem at a time, it's in our hands, win those remaining games and we will be playing L1. Sustainable? Emmmm That’s the problem with being a lower division team ! 💙 UTG
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Post by oldie on Mar 13, 2022 10:14:31 GMT
Well, I watched the last two games. Newport, who are above us, never looked like being beaten. The first 30 minutes yesterday and Harrogate really should have scored two. Their number 9 was an oaf so he was never where he should have been as the ball rolled across our goal, on 2 or 3 occasions. We won't get away with that against teams around us who are equally desperate for points. But the most concerning thing for me is the apparent reliance on E. Anderson. He was carving them up almost everytime he had the ball. Watching both those games I was never quite sure what our tactics are, but it is very clear we have some very good players who should get us promoted. But it is going to take some recruitment in the summer to replace those players who are on loan from clubs higher up the pyramid. But one problem at a time, it's in our hands, win those remaining games and we will be playing L1. Sustainable? Emmmm That’s the problem with being a lower division team ! 💙 UTG Yes, that maybe the reality of it these days.
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Post by playtowin on Mar 13, 2022 10:22:26 GMT
Its impossible to just look at a fixture and say win lose or draw with any certainty. For example colchester are on a reasonable run and Carlisle have won 4 of the last 5 games.
So its best to avoid thinking of individual games but instead use the bigger picture.
Virtually all teams that make the top 7 in league two (over last 12 full seasons) have finished with 20 or more wins. So that will be the minimum aim that JB expects, to reach 20 wins.
You never aim for the playoffs though until that is the only target you have left to go for. Aiming for a playoff place at this point is a mentality of low expectations.
There are 30pts available. That would give Rovers 87pts. Enough to have been champions for 7 of those last 12 full seasons.
80pts will give a high probability of direct promotion. Thats 23 more points ( 7 wins 2 draws) Only 4 times have the 4th placed team had 80 or more points.
To finish in the playoffs... An 8th placed team has not tallied more than 72points. Thats 15 more points or 4 wins 3 draws.
Its in our own hands. At this stage the title is still up for grabs.
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Post by mftc on Mar 13, 2022 10:23:52 GMT
Confidence is high and we have a big squad.
FGR were flying, had a few niggles and a few players loss of form, but they have a small squad, so have absolutely hit the wall.
If they had the likes of Rodders, Pitman, Spence and Brown (who cant even get into our match day squad), in their squad there is no way they would have no win in 6.
Fair play to Wael, he seems he might have bought promotion, even it is at a loss.
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Post by Russgas on Mar 13, 2022 10:28:10 GMT
I think the teams we want to avoid are those fighting for their lives. I think I'd rather play a team in and around us. Thankfully when we do play Scunthorpe, their fate is already sealed id rather Scunthorpe had something to play for, and had to come at us. An team already down, are playing with the weight already off there shoulder. What like we did last season.🤣
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