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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 5, 2022 9:08:27 GMT
No, he hasn't. At the start of the game on Saturday, we are still in a league lower than we were when he took over. When he took over we were not in the relegation zone. Let's all hope that we will be back in that league come Saturday evening or at the end of May. Otherwise, he hasn't really achieved anything other than relegation. You need to look at the bigger picture - ask the players what has changed at the club since he took over. Exactly tills ! đź’™
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Post by SleepyGas on May 5, 2022 9:44:04 GMT
I hope we have a more successful season this season than Barton ever achieved with Fleetwood!!!! (albeit at a higher level) Fleetwood have been brilliant Since he left haven’t they. 👀He did a fantastic job there mixing it with the big boys for a club their size which was an achievement in itself. Well they are in League One. Let's hope we join them ASAP!
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 5, 2022 10:17:20 GMT
He’s more than made up for it - so far ! Well done Joe ! 💙UTG  No, he hasn't. At the start of the game on Saturday, we are still in a league lower than we were when he took over. When he took over we were not in the relegation zone. Let's all hope that we will be back in that league come Saturday evening or at the end of May. Otherwise, he hasn't really achieved anything other than relegation. Alex Ferguson couldn’t have kept that rabble up. We don’t blame DC for relegation to the conference with a hospital pass from JW - we weren’t in the relegation zone until the last day of the season - so why does JB get the blame?
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Post by percy on May 5, 2022 10:21:44 GMT
No, he hasn't. At the start of the game on Saturday, we are still in a league lower than we were when he took over. When he took over we were not in the relegation zone. Let's all hope that we will be back in that league come Saturday evening or at the end of May. Otherwise, he hasn't really achieved anything other than relegation. Alex Ferguson couldn’t have kept that rabble up. We don’t blame DC for relegation to the conference with a hospital pass from JW - we weren’t in the relegation zone until the last day of the season - so why does JB get the blame? Simple. He gave up. But lets not go over this again. Positive vibes only
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Post by SleepyGas on May 5, 2022 10:27:46 GMT
No, he hasn't. At the start of the game on Saturday, we are still in a league lower than we were when he took over. When he took over we were not in the relegation zone. Let's all hope that we will be back in that league come Saturday evening or at the end of May. Otherwise, he hasn't really achieved anything other than relegation. Alex Ferguson couldn’t have kept that rabble up. We don’t blame DC for relegation to the conference with a hospital pass from JW - we weren’t in the relegation zone until the last day of the season - so why does JB get the blame? DC had fewer games tbf. But even if people do blame him for our relegation - he more than made up for it with the consecutive promotions. If JB can do that then all will be forgiven, I'm sure
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 5, 2022 10:34:40 GMT
Alex Ferguson couldn’t have kept that rabble up. We don’t blame DC for relegation to the conference with a hospital pass from JW - we weren’t in the relegation zone until the last day of the season - so why does JB get the blame? Simple. He gave up. But lets not go over this again. Positive vibes only Gave up or exhausted all avenues? Very much the latter IMO. Absolutely positive vibes only. So why do posters still want to post posts like those that have been posted on this thread when we’re on the brink of returning on first attempt?
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 5, 2022 11:39:52 GMT
It isn't just about promotion though, he's changed the mentality at the club, and improved things for the future by putting a good backroom team in place, and getting better facilities/equipment for the players. He's set the bar high for the standards required, and I hope that the club will continue with this when he's no longer with us. Is he being credited with the development of the training ground now too? Fair play.. Anyway, sure we are playing nice football now and winning often. All good. I really hope we do our bit on Saturday and Northampton fluff it. If not, then of course I hope we make it through the play-offs (eek!). It's an incredible turnaround from earlier in the season regardless; when many of us thought playoffs were out of reach (let alone autos!) But he has far from made up for his part in last season yet imo - and if we don't go up then I'm afraid we will be doing another rebuild in League Two. Hoping on signing loan players the calibre of Taylor, Connolly, Thomas and Eliott Anderson again. Also potentially replacing Evans and Nicholson (and whoever else retires or leaves). It could be another slow start if we don't gel before Christmas again.. (early start to the season because of the winter World Cup too). I suppose we should also acknowledge the magistrate-shaped elephant in the room which might well come up again in the summer But I'm going to try and put all that in the back of my mind for now and enjoy Saturday. A couple of early Rovers goals would be great to put a bit of added pressure on the other teams around us and maybe even set us up for the much-needed GD swing!!!! **fingers crossed** Surprised you are even going on Saturday, holding your nose ? had a downer on Joey for a long time ? imo Joey has done and doing a fantastic job, he is the reason we are in the play offs and pushing for promotion, something Joey said his team would be capable of from the beginning of the season.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 5, 2022 11:42:50 GMT
28 games in charge,how can you not take any blame,your the boss Tommy,take some responsibility mate, looking for another job soon then If you want to give it some balance then look at what our current manager said, after we were relegated plus he said lots more after that, calling the club cancerous and ex mangers not fit to manage. Look at garner now, not doing such a bad job eh. I think JB said much more and much worse. It is just football and it’s rare to have someone as straight up honest, as DC was
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Post by baggins on May 5, 2022 12:00:49 GMT
Recovering from a clear out of all the crap throughout the Club after DC left (and it was probably lingering in the background in his last Season with us), was never going to happen overnight - hence the relegation.
JB coming in (and I didn't like his appointment at the time) in hindsight was the best thing that could have happened. The rubbish has been put out and now we're a Club again.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 5, 2022 12:50:34 GMT
You need to look at the bigger picture - ask the players what has changed at the club since he took over. 100% right tilly. I work with a dad of one of the current first team. He cannot praise the club enough for the changes made behind the scenes since Barton took over. Apparently the training ground set up is unbelievably professional now compared to before and everything is thought out to the nth degree. He honestly raves about the changes that have been brought in and said the club is geared up for success now like never before. He lays praise for the set up now purely at Barton’s feet as he has been the sole driver in setting up the processes behind the scenes. When he leaves for a bigger club which he eventually will I will be forever thankful for what he has done for our football club. Great to have this confirmed by another reliable source - I'm sure that some people think I'm making it up!
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Post by baggins on May 5, 2022 12:56:38 GMT
100% right tilly. I work with a dad of one of the current first team. He cannot praise the club enough for the changes made behind the scenes since Barton took over. Apparently the training ground set up is unbelievably professional now compared to before and everything is thought out to the nth degree. He honestly raves about the changes that have been brought in and said the club is geared up for success now like never before. He lays praise for the set up now purely at Barton’s feet as he has been the sole driver in setting up the processes behind the scenes. When he leaves for a bigger club which he eventually will I will be forever thankful for what he has done for our football club. Great to have this confirmed by another reliable source - I'm sure that some people think I'm making it up! Don't let any facts stand in the way of having a dig at the club though eh?
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Post by aghast on May 5, 2022 17:28:26 GMT
Yes but it was stated that JB has more than made up for the relegation, as if the job has been done and actually done better than required.
Which by any reasonable analysis means we are not only back in L1, but in a better position in that league than we were.
Well we're not. I hope we are, and I think if we are, we'll be well prepared for next season in the league above, because a lot of the behind the scenes measures Joey has put in place seem excellent.
But in a couple of weeks we could be facing another season in L2. So until that awkward issue is fixed, it cannot be said that he has more than made up for what happened last season.
This always happens on gaschat. If you're not totally in favour of something perceived as popular, you must be a sh!thread or not a true fan or not welcome at the Mem.
It's not black and white like that. JB has undoubtedly done well since about November, but he hasn't made up for last season's capitulation. He's on the way to doing so, but he hasn't done it yet.
I don't know why people find that so hard to accept.
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Post by philbemmygas on May 5, 2022 17:33:33 GMT
28 games in charge,how can you not take any blame,your the boss Tommy,take some responsibility mate, looking for another job soon then If you want to give it some balance then look at what our current manager said, after we were relegated plus he said lots more after that, calling the club cancerous and ex mangers not fit to manage. Look at garner now, not doing such a bad job eh. I think JB said much more and much worse. It is just football and it’s rare to have someone as straight up honest, as DC was Jools, a matter of a couple of weeks ago Swindle fans were really disillusioned with Garner ball. Admittedly they have since gone on a late run, they could still f*ck up getting into the play-offs though! Anyone who is interested in learning what makes JB tick, or boil over would be advised to read his autobiography. It certainly helped me to understand more about him. UTG
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 5, 2022 17:35:12 GMT
If you want to give it some balance then look at what our current manager said, after we were relegated plus he said lots more after that, calling the club cancerous and ex mangers not fit to manage. Look at garner now, not doing such a bad job eh. I think JB said much more and much worse. It is just football and it’s rare to have someone as straight up honest, as DC was Jools, a matter of a couple of weeks ago Swindle fans were really disillusioned with Garner ball. Admittedly they have since gone on a late run, they could still f*ck up getting into the play-offs though! Anyone who is interested in learning what makes JB tick, or boil over would be advised to read his autobiography. It certainly helped me to understand more about him. UTG Read it but ghost written
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Post by philbemmygas on May 5, 2022 17:40:08 GMT
Jools, a matter of a couple of weeks ago Swindle fans were really disillusioned with Garner ball. Admittedly they have since gone on a late run, they could still f*ck up getting into the play-offs though! Anyone who is interested in learning what makes JB tick, or boil over would be advised to read his autobiography. It certainly helped me to understand more about him. UTG Read it but ghost written Most autobiographies seem to be ghost written, clearly it was done with his full cooperation
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Post by bidefordgas on May 5, 2022 17:57:54 GMT
As far as I am concerned the team are playing the best football for many a year, they are fitter and better organised than any other Rovers team in the past and the club is vastly improved in many areas. Wael, TG and Joey are all singing from the same hymn sheet. Joey has brought in his own coaching team, a top fitness conditioning coach Tom Short with several years experience in the Premier league and his work is clear to see. Quite clearly Joey has overseen a very successful season and hopefully the icing on the cake will be promotion at the end of it.
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Post by bidefordgas on May 5, 2022 18:04:43 GMT
As regards Joeys autobiography how do people know it was "ghost written"? I'm quite happy to accept its his words and his thoughts on his life up to now. The man is quite clearly intelligent enough to write one, that's why it's an autobiography and not a biography.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 5, 2022 18:06:55 GMT
28 games in charge,how can you not take any blame,your the boss Tommy,take some responsibility mate, looking for another job soon then If you want to give it some balance then look at what our current manager said, after we were relegated plus he said lots more after that, calling the club cancerous and ex mangers not fit to manage. Look at garner now, not doing such a bad job eh. I think JB said much more and much worse. It is just football and it’s rare to have someone as straight up honest, as DC was Perhaps Garner learnt quickly from the mistakes he made at Rovers? One thing he did was make sure that he didn't sign any of the dross he left behind at Rovers when he left. The "cancer" was most likely Wriddington and he's now failed at a National League side.
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Post by philbemmygas on May 5, 2022 18:16:39 GMT
As regards Joeys autobiography how do people know it was "ghost written"? I'm quite happy to accept its his words and his thoughts on his life up to now. The man is quite clearly intelligent enough to write one, that's why it's an autobiography and not a biography. Dave JB actually acknowledges Michael Calvin as the ghost writer, also it explains how much time they spent together in producing this book.
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Post by warehamgas on May 5, 2022 18:32:42 GMT
Jools, a matter of a couple of weeks ago Swindle fans were really disillusioned with Garner ball. Admittedly they have since gone on a late run, they could still f*ck up getting into the play-offs though! Anyone who is interested in learning what makes JB tick, or boil over would be advised to read his autobiography. It certainly helped me to understand more about him. UTG Read it but ghost written Yes, it is but all sport autobiographies have a ghost writer so not surprising. I am actually reading it currently, about half way through. Quite enjoying it and it does explain a lot but as well as being a “very honest self-appraisal,” if everyone from a council estate, even as bad as the one he has described, was destined for prison, like he says then we’d have hundreds of thousands people in prison as opposed to the actual figure of under 100,000. But Phil’s right it has helped me to understand him and some of the things he’s meant to have done esp seeing them from a non-newspaper rag pov. That has been good to read. UTG!
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