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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2022 18:16:07 GMT
If you look at Rossitors initial reaction towards the ref he is claiming the handball by their player and as I saw at the time was astonished and even laughed at their players reaction. As you can see on the video Coutts bent over the player and pointed out to the ref there wasn't a mark on him. It looks like the ref blew for a foul or offside further up the pitch, so the Shrews player just put his hand up to stop the ball, then Rossiter lifted his elbow up for some reason.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2022 18:19:06 GMT
Why suggest the ref wasn't looking, when he was clearly looking at the play when last shown in shot and then ran over to the incident as soon as it occurred, although I've no idea what Rossiter was doing leading elbow first. Only because it's been claimed on this thread that players can be retrospectively charged if the ref hasn't seen the incident. If the ref has seen the incident and called it 'wrong' then they can't be. The video doesn't show the refs face in shot at the time of the incident to show where he was looking, although I presume at the ball. I assume the refs done a Fergie and bottled it when asked why he didn't take any action but it's hard to believe he didn't see it, or the FA have told him to say he didn't see it, so they can give Rovers another kicking.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 29, 2022 18:19:42 GMT
If you look at Rossitors initial reaction towards the ref he is claiming the handball by their player and as I saw at the time was astonished and even laughed at their players reaction. As you can see on the video Coutts bent over the player and pointed out to the ref there wasn't a mark on him. It looks like the ref blew for a foul or offside further up the pitch, so the Shrews player just put his hand up to stop the ball, then Rossiter lifted his elbow up for some reason. You mean we actually had a ref for this game……
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Post by yattongas on Aug 29, 2022 18:24:29 GMT
Watched it twice and still can’t make out what actually happens . Need to see it slow motion I think ! If he’s whacked him he’s def in for at least a 3 match ban .
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Post by playtowin on Aug 29, 2022 18:26:47 GMT
Just have to examine the incident frame by frame to see if the contact was with the ball or player. If its the ball that will be the evidence provided by the club/player.
The officials in league one seem to be very poor . I suspect its not gonna get better either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 18:28:21 GMT
Question is….who initiated the FA review. Did Cheltenham call it in? Assuming you mean Shrewsbury, I don't think Joey Barton will have reported it. My guess is the Shrewsbury commentary team brought it to Shreswbury's attention after the game.
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Post by playtowin on Aug 29, 2022 18:31:25 GMT
Question is….who initiated the FA review. Did Cheltenham call it in? Assuming you mean Shrewsbury, I don't think Joey Barton will have reported it. My guess is the Shrewsbury commentary team brought it to Shreswbury's attention after the game. The officials may watch the game together to review their decisions to see where they can learn and improve.
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Post by richie on Aug 29, 2022 18:31:27 GMT
Very dangerous doing this retrospectively, opens it up for all the other decisions
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 29, 2022 18:36:58 GMT
Question is….who initiated the FA review. Did Cheltenham call it in? Assuming you mean Shrewsbury, I don't think Joey Barton will have reported it. My guess is the Shrewsbury commentary team brought it to Shreswbury's attention after the game. Wondered when you would spot that one…..😵💫
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 29, 2022 18:40:53 GMT
They were a very poor team set up negatively, however, our reputation (Coutts, Finley etc) leads referees to mark our card. In this case the referee could not see it and it was in front of him. I am afraid, though I don't think it is right but Rossiter is looking at a ban. We are losing players to injury and cannot afford disciplinary issues. It is only a matter of time before Finley or Coutts are banned plus Aaron Collins has a reputation for going down easily. Refs talk and know which clubs and players to look out for. It is difficult enough having a marmite manager who referees hate let alone players. Oh well, hopefully by Christmas we may have sorted ourselves out.
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Post by keygas on Aug 29, 2022 18:41:02 GMT
Well that would just top off Saturday, Rossiter picks up a ban & the Shrewsbury school of performing arts get off Scot free.
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 29, 2022 18:44:28 GMT
Is this in relation to that moment everyone’s on about, where their lad tried to get him sent off? Yes. Judge for yourselves... One things for certain, Rossiter certainly bats the ball away. As for elbowing the guy through violent conduct, best of luck to the FA alleging the intent! As mentioned this is a dangerous precedent, they’ll be reviewing hundreds of these every week!
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 29, 2022 18:46:07 GMT
Only because it's been claimed on this thread that players can be retrospectively charged if the ref hasn't seen the incident. If the ref has seen the incident and called it 'wrong' then they can't be. The video doesn't show the refs face in shot at the time of the incident to show where he was looking, although I presume at the ball. I assume the refs done a Fergie and bottled it when asked why he didn't take any action but it's hard to believe he didn't see it, or the FA have told him to say he didn't see it, so they can give Rovers another kicking. Bit weird to suggest there's an FA conspiracy to get at Rovers. Not sure what "doing a Fergie" means, but the ref can't give something he hasn't seen. However, if some serious violent conduct has gone on, we'd want it spotted and dealt with since the technology exists.
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 29, 2022 18:46:58 GMT
Yes. Judge for yourselves... One things for certain, Rossiter certainly bats the ball away. As for elbowing the guy through violent conduct, best of luck to the FA alleging the intent! As mentioned this is a dangerous precedent, they’ll be reviewing hundreds of these every week! I don't think intent comes into it. Or it shouldn't, in any case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 18:47:20 GMT
He is clearly trying to hit the ball. Anti rovers agenda continues.
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 29, 2022 18:50:04 GMT
He is clearly trying to hit the ball. Anti rovers agenda continues. 🤣
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 29, 2022 18:50:44 GMT
Question is….who initiated the FA review. Did Cheltenham call it in? Assuming you mean Shrewsbury, I don't think Joey Barton will have reported it. My guess is the Shrewsbury commentary team brought it to Shreswbury's attention after the game. What, viewing it from 80 yards away towards the back of the east stand. Wasn't aware that the likes of Keith Brookman have a TV screen in front of them.
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 29, 2022 18:53:41 GMT
Very dangerous doing this retrospectively, opens it up for all the other decisions Exactly, surely deliberate cheating can be alleged if the ref has not seen it. Plenty of that going on Saturday.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 29, 2022 19:00:50 GMT
Sums up the FA.Gets involved in one incident amongst a game that was full of incidents which were not within the rules. Their player clearly went to handle the ball and its seems ridiculous that in divisions where there is little television coverage that individual incidents are looked at.The FA seem to have something against us. Bunch of tossers the FA and not fit to run our game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 19:04:55 GMT
Assuming you mean Shrewsbury, I don't think Joey Barton will have reported it. My guess is the Shrewsbury commentary team brought it to Shreswbury's attention after the game. What, viewing it from 80 yards away towards the back of the east stand. Wasn't aware that the likes of Keith Brookman have a TV screen in front of them. Well they called it at the time so they either had good eyesight or an iPad and watched the replay on ifollow. We will soon find out if they were right or not.
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