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Post by baggins on Sept 24, 2022 20:05:39 GMT
Not the squad underperforming? Buck stops at the top in regards to team performance. My philosophy would be to either know and trust a system and during times of injury play the best available player to suit OR to pick a system that would best suit the players I had currently available. Either option would seem sensible. Neither option appears to be being used by Barton. Do not misunderstand me. I am not saying we are sure to be relegated, but I can see little else than an outright relegation fight this season. I am not a betting man, but I believe we will be relegated if nothing changes. September is a ridiculous time to panic however as much can improve. When the 11 take to the pitch, it's down to them, and at the moment, it's not working. Had an awful feeling this Season was going to be hard work, it's still September, let's give them a few weeks to show how up for a fight they are.
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 24, 2022 20:08:03 GMT
Buck stops at the top in regards to team performance. My philosophy would be to either know and trust a system and during times of injury play the best available player to suit OR to pick a system that would best suit the players I had currently available. Either option would seem sensible. Neither option appears to be being used by Barton. Do not misunderstand me. I am not saying we are sure to be relegated, but I can see little else than an outright relegation fight this season. I am not a betting man, but I believe we will be relegated if nothing changes. September is a ridiculous time to panic however as much can improve. When the 11 take to the pitch, it's down to them, and at the moment, it's not working. Had an awful feeling this Season was going to be hard work, it's still September, let's give them a few weeks to show how up for a fight they are. It is down to them, but if they are set up wrong, played out of position and given bad instructions then it becomes harder to blame the players.
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Post by It's a song on Sept 24, 2022 20:09:14 GMT
If we’d had two of Connolly/Gibson/Thomas against Lincoln I think we’d have won. Until we’ve seen JB’s preferred 343 system with players playing in their actual positions it’s unfair to judge
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Post by baggins on Sept 24, 2022 20:11:01 GMT
When the 11 take to the pitch, it's down to them, and at the moment, it's not working. Had an awful feeling this Season was going to be hard work, it's still September, let's give them a few weeks to show how up for a fight they are. It is down to them, but if they are set up wrong, played out of position and given bad instructions then it becomes harder to blame the players. Agreed.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Sept 24, 2022 20:11:42 GMT
For me it's a certainty and I know this post is a massive negative and we are still in September but this has all the makings of disaster written all over it and I'm not just talking about the football on the pitch. Take away our poor luck with injuries so far and look at the bigger picture and I see for 1 that JBs signings this season are his 4th or 5th choice down the line of main targets if not further 🤔2 and again I will be shut down for saying this but (Wael) needs to employ a man who has the knowledge of running a football club and who can make off the field decisions and push this club forward. For all his so say money and debt he's cleared for the club he has no sense on how to progress a football club and we/he is losing 84k per week at Rovers so where is the future for him and us financially? I can see Joey walking by January and personally I don't lay the blame with him for our poor start but Wael has been here long enough and I can't see him being any different than the previous when it comes to progression off the field. With many places to build a stadium and the option to redevelop our current ground we still see and hear nothing good and I'm afraid we are going back to league two. ....in a nutshell! Finally people are smelling the coffee!
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Post by bs16gashead on Sept 24, 2022 20:14:39 GMT
A lot will depend on how we do when we are at or near full strength because let’s be honest we are nowhere near that now.
Connolly has clearly been a big miss imo hopefully he forms a good partnership with Thomas and also gibbons is to come back in, also if Coburn is as promising as some have talked him up to be then we might see things turn around fingers crossed.
My worry is the rot is in and it’s hard to shake off, we’ve also had a lot of home games already against teams considered ‘lesser’ was looking in the programme today and our home run in on paper is brutal.
Probably a bit early to be resigned to it especially with the players out but I do get the concern.
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 24, 2022 20:21:43 GMT
For me it's a certainty and I know this post is a massive negative and we are still in September but this has all the makings of disaster written all over it and I'm not just talking about the football on the pitch. Take away our poor luck with injuries so far and look at the bigger picture and I see for 1 that JBs signings this season are his 4th or 5th choice down the line of main targets if not further 🤔2 and again I will be shut down for saying this but (Wael) needs to employ a man who has the knowledge of running a football club and who can make off the field decisions and push this club forward. For all his so say money and debt he's cleared for the club he has no sense on how to progress a football club and we/he is losing 84k per week at Rovers so where is the future for him and us financially? I can see Joey walking by January and personally I don't lay the blame with him for our poor start but Wael has been here long enough and I can't see him being any different than the previous when it comes to progression off the field. With many places to build a stadium and the option to redevelop our current ground we still see and hear nothing good and I'm afraid we are going back to league two. ....in a nutshell! Finally people are smelling the coffee! God what two depressing posts,suggest we shut up shop now and all f..k off to support god knows who,can't stand the negativity!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2022 20:27:29 GMT
A lot will depend on how we do when we are at or near full strength because let’s be honest we are nowhere near that now. Connolly has clearly been a big miss imo hopefully he forms a good partnership with Thomas and also gibbons is to come back in, also if Coburn is as promising as some have talked him up to be then we might see things turn around fingers crossed. My worry is the rot is in and it’s hard to shake off, we’ve also had a lot of home games already against teams considered ‘lesser’ was looking in the programme today and our home run in on paper is brutal. Probably a bit early to be resigned to it especially with the players out but I do get the concern. Don't Thomas and Connolly favour playing on the left side of our defence (are they both left footed?) if they do they'll struggle to form a good partnership, for me Thomas looks miles off being a first team regular. Coburn's a complete unknown he could be a decent player or just as bad as JB's other summer signings.
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Post by pudseygas on Sept 24, 2022 20:32:55 GMT
Cut adrift at Xmas and then a poor January window, then yeah but till then I'm not too worried 😳
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Post by percy on Sept 24, 2022 20:55:22 GMT
If we’d had two of Connolly/Gibson/Thomas against Lincoln I think we’d have won. Until we’ve seen JB’s preferred 343 system with players playing in their actual positions it’s unfair to judge Haha don’t be ridiculous It’s fair to judge his squad. Especially when 4 or 5 signings are injury gambles. We might be fine. But it’s looking bad.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Sept 24, 2022 20:55:34 GMT
My worry in addition to the results Is that JB now says that players have lost their confidence … Well where does the blame lie for that ?
He keeps talking about tomorrow things will be better but we are playing games today and are dire. I’m not sure things will improve IF some come back - there is no guarantee.
I’m not sure I even trust his judgement in another window when he will be telling us we need six or seven - He delivers three as there is no value to be had in a January window.
Long way still to go but I can see why people are sensing relegation - we have little shape , very few players have stepped up to L1 standard and some have dramatically fallen away all together. We look L2 even Non League at times and are haemorrhaging goals yet again.
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Post by It's a song on Sept 24, 2022 21:33:23 GMT
If we’d had two of Connolly/Gibson/Thomas against Lincoln I think we’d have won. Until we’ve seen JB’s preferred 343 system with players playing in their actual positions it’s unfair to judge Haha don’t be ridiculous It’s fair to judge his squad. Especially when 4 or 5 signings are injury gambles. We might be fine. But it’s looking bad. OK, fair enough to judge now but I think it can only get better considering the players we’re missing in the back 3 which is absolutely key to how JB wants to play
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 22:30:34 GMT
Barton and his mates will finish us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 22:59:03 GMT
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 25, 2022 5:06:23 GMT
As DC had a blind spot with goalkeepers, I think JB has a blind spot with defenders. Had we not have got Connor Taylor I don’t see us getting promoted last year. He’s spend most of his money on midfielders and forwards.
I watched last night on ifollow as I’m a long way from home. We were never at the races. We lacked the quality to play out from the back, a lot of it was our back 3 playing tippy tappy.
It’s getting more and more like Garnerball
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 25, 2022 6:44:36 GMT
I'm getting prepared for it, defence is weak at set pieces, and up top not creating enough = bottom 4
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Post by GasHeadBlues on Sept 25, 2022 7:04:53 GMT
For me it's a certainty and I know this post is a massive negative and we are still in September but this has all the makings of disaster written all over it and I'm not just talking about the football on the pitch. Take away our poor luck with injuries so far and look at the bigger picture and I see for 1 that JBs signings this season are his 4th or 5th choice down the line of main targets if not further 🤔2 and again I will be shut down for saying this but (Wael) needs to employ a man who has the knowledge of running a football club and who can make off the field decisions and push this club forward. For all his so say money and debt he's cleared for the club he has no sense on how to progress a football club and we/he is losing 84k per week at Rovers so where is the future for him and us financially? I can see Joey walking by January and personally I don't lay the blame with him for our poor start but Wael has been here long enough and I can't see him being any different than the previous when it comes to progression off the field. With many places to build a stadium and the option to redevelop our current ground we still see and hear nothing good and I'm afraid we are going back to league two. ....in a nutshell! Finally people are smelling the coffee! Thank God I don't have to smell your coffee. Brings to mind Baldrick's concoctions in the trenches of Blackadder.
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Post by bluey on Sept 25, 2022 7:41:04 GMT
gasheadbatesy there is no away terrace anymore as far as I am aware my son stood there a few games ago. I think the whole of the south stand when needed becomes the away end and that is the reason they will not allow any season ticket holders in there anymore so they can change the allocation.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 25, 2022 7:54:00 GMT
Barton and his mates will finish us. Not sure promotion and increase attendances, so far, this season is going to finish us!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 25, 2022 7:56:52 GMT
As DC had a blind spot with goalkeepers, I think JB has a blind spot with defenders. Had we not have got Connor Taylor I don’t see us getting promoted last year. He’s spend most of his money on midfielders and forwards. I watched last night on ifollow as I’m a long way from home. We were never at the races. We lacked the quality to play out from the back, a lot of it was our back 3 playing tippy tappy.
It’s getting more and more like Garnerball Are you sure you were watching the right game as we had a back 4, two of which couldn't play that type of football if they tried.
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