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Post by bathtubpirate on Feb 1, 2023 16:59:05 GMT
I think Quansah looked very confident and if Bogarde is as good they could end up being excellent signings providing much needed strength at the back.
Also, if Bogarde can play as a defensive midfielder that could give some flexibility.
A couple more in would have been nice, but we didnt sell Collins or have Coburn recalled. Let's see if we get any free agents.
I'd give it a B-
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2023 17:14:07 GMT
What's disappointing is that we seem to have cut the wage budget, just when you'd hoped we push on with a play off push. Now it looks like just getting to 55 pts is the target. Why wouldn't we cut the wage budget,it's our biggest expense,we can't keep shifting £2/£3m losses each year we have to get to a position where Income equal or exceeds expenditure or we have no club Perhaps someone should tell JB then as he's the one continuously talking about promotion/Championship football to the press, he even mentioned this week in his post match presser.
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Post by piedpiper on Feb 1, 2023 17:42:49 GMT
Why wouldn't we cut the wage budget,it's our biggest expense,we can't keep shifting £2/£3m losses each year we have to get to a position where Income equal or exceeds expenditure or we have no club Perhaps someone should tell JB then as he's the one continuously talking about promotion/Championship football to the press, he even mentioned this week in his post match presser. Absolutely. We all want a manager with no ambition or drive, so that we all have nothing to look forward to. He needs to be careful, as with words like that maybe the squad will get the wrong idea, and improve. How are our short term memories meant to be able to cope, with such utter craziness?!
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Post by fintanstack on Feb 1, 2023 17:48:26 GMT
We have become Yeovil.
Taking loans to paper the cracks and hoping they come good.
Half our team are not our players.
It is a very dangerous game to play.
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Post by justin blue on Feb 1, 2023 17:57:25 GMT
For some reason (no logic to back it up), I've got a good feeling about MacDonald. Maybe you were dreaming of a burger Tilly
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Post by bobbyjones on Feb 1, 2023 18:30:07 GMT
He did have a good farm so I hear.
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 1, 2023 18:30:29 GMT
Why wouldn't we cut the wage budget,it's our biggest expense,we can't keep shifting £2/£3m losses each year we have to get to a position where Income equal or exceeds expenditure or we have no club Nothing is going to change until we get a new stadium and can generate decent off field income 24/7. Agree that's part of the picture ,there is also a financial equation to consider,how much extra income will a new stadium attract V the cost of the extra Cost to service the debt etc . In the meantime,we have to live within our means
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 1, 2023 18:31:56 GMT
Why wouldn't we cut the wage budget,it's our biggest expense,we can't keep shifting £2/£3m losses each year we have to get to a position where Income equal or exceeds expenditure or we have no club Perhaps someone should tell JB then as he's the one continuously talking about promotion/Championship football to the press, he even mentioned this week in his post match presser. There is nothing wrong with aspiration ,perhaps he had a bit of a reality check this week
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Post by phillistine on Feb 1, 2023 18:33:42 GMT
We have become Yeovil. Taking loans to paper the cracks and hoping they come good. Half our team are not our players. It is a very dangerous game to play. Sorry but you are wrong. Taking loan players is that best way to go for a club like ours- just ask Plymouth as half their team are on loan too. it is all very well Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday buying players- but look at the size of the crowds and how much they are splashing out to get them. Elliott Anderson and Connor Taylor were key players for the Gas last year but the only reason they came here was because of the loan system. We would not have Coburn and i suspect that we are soon going to find that the 2 youngsters signed this week will be impressive once they get used to the physicality of League1. The difference between the Championship and League 1 is huge and whoever gets promoted will more or less need a new team to survive. If however all the players are under longer term contracts then you are stuck with them even though that are not up to the required standard. When the loan players go back to their clubs at the end of the season then you can sign at least 5 new players capable of playing at the higher level. You are correct of course in that Yeovil got themselves into a pickle - but that was not just the loand players
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Post by oldie on Feb 1, 2023 19:34:54 GMT
Perhaps someone should tell JB then as he's the one continuously talking about promotion/Championship football to the press, he even mentioned this week in his post match presser. There is nothing wrong with aspiration ,perhaps he had a bit of a reality check this week You can bang that drum Clive, but too many want to live in cloud cuckoo land and kid themselves that 2+2 does not equal 4. If you dare press the point you might be told to eff off and support another team.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 1, 2023 19:42:50 GMT
He did have a good farm so I hear. E-I-E-I-E-I-O Up the football league we go?
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Post by The Equaliser on Feb 1, 2023 20:20:09 GMT
There is nothing wrong with aspiration ,perhaps he had a bit of a reality check this week You can bang that drum Clive, but too many want to live in cloud cuckoo land and kid themselves that 2+2 does not equal 4. If you dare press the point you might be told to eff off and support another team. And you combat those posters by inferring other posters or anyone who is optimistic lives in cloud cuckoo land. Gosh the irony.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2023 21:23:34 GMT
Nothing is going to change until we get a new stadium and can generate decent off field income 24/7. Agree that's part of the picture ,there is also a financial equation to consider,how much extra income will a new stadium attract V the cost of the extra Cost to service the debt etc . In the meantime,we have to live within our means There's no way we're living within our means, as you can virtually guarantee we'll lose another £2m+ this year, having probably lost a similar amount last year. We might have knocked a few £'s off the wage bill this month but we've not made any major cuts on either the coaching or playing front.
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 1, 2023 21:49:18 GMT
Agree that's part of the picture ,there is also a financial equation to consider,how much extra income will a new stadium attract V the cost of the extra Cost to service the debt etc . In the meantime,we have to live within our means There's no way we're living within our means, as you can virtually guarantee we'll lose another £2m+ this year, having probably lost a similar amount last year. We might have knocked a few £'s off the wage bill this month but we've not made any major cuts on either the coaching or playing front. Well that Topper is exactly the problem ,we can't keep losing that amount each year just hoping Wael will bail us out,no other business would see that as sustainable and if you can't generate more income you have to cut costs .
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2023 22:25:50 GMT
There's no way we're living within our means, as you can virtually guarantee we'll lose another £2m+ this year, having probably lost a similar amount last year. We might have knocked a few £'s off the wage bill this month but we've not made any major cuts on either the coaching or playing front. Well that Topper is exactly the problem ,we can't keep losing that amount each year just hoping Wael will bail us out,no other business would see that as sustainable and if you can't generate more income you have to cut costs . Why's Wael bailing us out when he's clearly made the decision to finance Rovers loses, it's not like it's a surprise to him we've made a loss when the yearly accounts are published.
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 1, 2023 22:45:07 GMT
Well that Topper is exactly the problem ,we can't keep losing that amount each year just hoping Wael will bail us out,no other business would see that as sustainable and if you can't generate more income you have to cut costs . Why's Wael bailing us out when he's clearly made the decision to finance Rovers loses, it's not like it's a surprise to him we've made a loss when the yearly accounts are published. But Topper surely you can see he's not going to carry on adinfinitm,it's just not possible.
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Post by squire on Feb 1, 2023 22:52:09 GMT
We have a load of doubters on here even before they have seen these youngsters play for gods sake give them a chance. They are obviously good players or they would not be playing for Premiership clubs or be talent they want to enhance
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Post by oldie on Feb 2, 2023 1:43:05 GMT
You can bang that drum Clive, but too many want to live in cloud cuckoo land and kid themselves that 2+2 does not equal 4. If you dare press the point you might be told to eff off and support another team. And you combat those posters by inferring other posters or anyone who is optimistic lives in cloud cuckoo land. Gosh the irony. By definition being a football fan we are all optimistic. But ignoring the facts is not optimism and only ends up in the same place, as Trevorgas articulates.
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Post by fintanstack on Feb 2, 2023 5:48:32 GMT
We have become Yeovil. Taking loans to paper the cracks and hoping they come good. Half our team are not our players. It is a very dangerous game to play. Sorry but you are wrong. Taking loan players is that best way to go for a club like ours- just ask Plymouth as half their team are on loan too. it is all very well Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday buying players- but look at the size of the crowds and how much they are splashing out to get them. Elliott Anderson and Connor Taylor were key players for the Gas last year but the only reason they came here was because of the loan system. We would not have Coburn and i suspect that we are soon going to find that the 2 youngsters signed this week will be impressive once they get used to the physicality of League1. The difference between the Championship and League 1 is huge and whoever gets promoted will more or less need a new team to survive. If however all the players are under longer term contracts then you are stuck with them even though that are not up to the required standard. When the loan players go back to their clubs at the end of the season then you can sign at least 5 new players capable of playing at the higher level. You are correct of course in that Yeovil got themselves into a pickle - but that was not just the loand players You think I am wrong and your opinion has many likes. I am not rigidly stuck to my opinion but your reply has not convinced me I am wrong. With others mentioning sustainability and Wael financing the club, surely there has to be better balance between loan players and sellable assets? I understand that it is possibly less risky in some ways; if players do not make it you can return them. The problem as I see it is that if they are successful it will only be for one season and you get no material gain. Coupled with that, you are guaranteed to have to rebuild your squad every single season. I do not see how that helps the club in the long term and no one has been able to allay my fears.
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 2, 2023 7:45:01 GMT
We have a load of doubters on here even before they have seen these youngsters play for gods sake give them a chance. They are obviously good players or they would not be playing for Premiership clubs or be talent they want to enhance Stop being rational. The doom mongers will be on your case. UTFG 🏴☠️
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