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Post by allgasandgaiters on Mar 17, 2023 19:47:11 GMT
Could anyone see if the corner ball from Wycombe was in the quadrant or on the line. The ref seemed to be pedantic about that and the player was adamant the ball was legally placed. I couldn’t see from my position. I saw Forest play a couple of years ago. They scored with a header from a corner but the goal was disallowed as the lino advised that the wind had blown the ball out of the quadrant just before the kick was taken. It finished 0-0. If the corner had been on the other side the lino would have been half a pitch away and wouldn't have seen it. Fine margins football ....
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 20, 2023 17:46:54 GMT
I must admit that I don't personally recall hearing any chants specifically relating to the referee's gender.. but have seen a few tweets saying that some fans did shout / chant some unsavoury things. Eg. & if you listen to the latest GasCast pod you can hear Caz's personal testimony of some fans abusing the ref from the North Terrace Surely it would have been sexist Not to have abused her Tuesday night? They make the distinction on the podcast between the abuse aimed at referees for making a decision you disagree with and targeting them because of their race,gender,sexuality. The abuse they (and various other people on social media) were specifically upset by was the sexist abuse. Not nice to hear - especially if you are female fan at the game or there with your daughter or something.
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 20, 2023 19:38:29 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-abuse-rebecca-welch-8271339Bristol Rovers launch investigation into alleged sexist abuse of referee Rebecca Welch
Rebecca Welch, who became the first female referee in EFL history in 2021, took charge of Bristol Rovers' 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week at the Mem
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe has confirmed that the club have launched an investigation following reports of sexist abuse towards referee Rebecca Welch during the Gas’ 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week.
Welch took charge of the League One encounter last Tuesday in her first appearance at the Mem, having previously officiated Rovers’ League Two clash at Hartlepool United towards the beginning of the 2021/22 League Two season.
Consensus opinion was the Washington-based official had a fine game but in his programme notes for Saturday’s visit of Portsmouth, Gorringe detailed how he had been made aware of “abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters” and has promised to take “appropriate action”.
Welch was appointed as an EFL referee in March 2021, having previously worked in the WSL and National League, and has taken charge of 35 games across League One, League Two and the EFL Trophy.
“The match on Tuesday was officiated by Rebecca Welch who oversaw our fixture for the second time,” Gorringe wrote. “For me, she is one of the best officials at this level and once again had a good game, particularly in the first half.
“Sadly, we have been made aware of some abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters during the game. As a club, we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination of any kind.
“Everyone within the stadium on the matchday has the responsibility to represent the club with integrity and act in a manner that doesn’t intimidate or make any fellow supporters feel unwelcome.
“Any complaints made will be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken, should any supporters be found to be acting in a discriminatory way. If you witness any forms of discrimination whilst at the Mem please follow the information on how to report on page 36 of today’s programme or on posters around the ground.
“Finally, if you have any issues, you can contact us on email at feedback@bristolrovers.co.uk. Together we can ensure The Mem remains a friendly environment for all supporters.”
It is the fourth such case of alleged sexist abuse this season, beginning with Rovers' match against Barnsley at Oakwell in August in which a female member of staff was targeted by discriminatory chants and the Tykes were subsequently charged by the FA.
The FA have also looked into claims from their game against Exeter City in October that a female staff member was subjected to inappropriate chants from home fans at St James’ Park.
In between that, Rovers and Accrington Stanley investigated reports that members of the travelling support at the Mem verbally abused some female home fans and subjected them to sexual harassment.
Saturday’s League One encounter against Portsmouth was Rovers’ designated HerGameToo fixture - the campaign part-founded by Gasheads Caz May and Lucy Ford which aims to eradicate sexism in the football industry.
HGT paraphernalia is regularly distributed and posted in an official capacity around the Mem but in April last year, stickers in opposition to the campaign were found at the stadium, including in the clubhouse, with Rovers condemning the act and vowing to investigate.
Manager Joey Barton was criticised for a post on Twitter in February in which, during an exchange with commentator Jackie Oatley who questioned his use of the word “male” in discussing the quality of officials in the professional game, he replied: "Yep Jackie. ‘Male’.
“Mainly because the women’s game, as good as it is, it’s played a slightly different speed to the men’s. So, in terms of velocity and physicality, I’m not sure it would be best suited to ask people who haven’t experienced that to assist the officials.”
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 19:42:26 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-abuse-rebecca-welch-8271339Bristol Rovers launch investigation into alleged sexist abuse of referee Rebecca Welch
Rebecca Welch, who became the first female referee in EFL history in 2021, took charge of Bristol Rovers' 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week at the Mem
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe has confirmed that the club have launched an investigation following reports of sexist abuse towards referee Rebecca Welch during the Gas’ 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week.
Welch took charge of the League One encounter last Tuesday in her first appearance at the Mem, having previously officiated Rovers’ League Two clash at Hartlepool United towards the beginning of the 2021/22 League Two season.
Consensus opinion was the Washington-based official had a fine game but in his programme notes for Saturday’s visit of Portsmouth, Gorringe detailed how he had been made aware of “abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters” and has promised to take “appropriate action”.
Welch was appointed as an EFL referee in March 2021, having previously worked in the WSL and National League, and has taken charge of 35 games across League One, League Two and the EFL Trophy.
“The match on Tuesday was officiated by Rebecca Welch who oversaw our fixture for the second time,” Gorringe wrote. “For me, she is one of the best officials at this level and once again had a good game, particularly in the first half.
“Sadly, we have been made aware of some abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters during the game. As a club, we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination of any kind.
“Everyone within the stadium on the matchday has the responsibility to represent the club with integrity and act in a manner that doesn’t intimidate or make any fellow supporters feel unwelcome.
“Any complaints made will be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken, should any supporters be found to be acting in a discriminatory way. If you witness any forms of discrimination whilst at the Mem please follow the information on how to report on page 36 of today’s programme or on posters around the ground.
“Finally, if you have any issues, you can contact us on email at feedback@bristolrovers.co.uk. Together we can ensure The Mem remains a friendly environment for all supporters.”
It is the fourth such case of alleged sexist abuse this season, beginning with Rovers' match against Barnsley at Oakwell in August in which a female member of staff was targeted by discriminatory chants and the Tykes were subsequently charged by the FA.
The FA have also looked into claims from their game against Exeter City in October that a female staff member was subjected to inappropriate chants from home fans at St James’ Park.
In between that, Rovers and Accrington Stanley investigated reports that members of the travelling support at the Mem verbally abused some female home fans and subjected them to sexual harassment.
Saturday’s League One encounter against Portsmouth was Rovers’ designated HerGameToo fixture - the campaign part-founded by Gasheads Caz May and Lucy Ford which aims to eradicate sexism in the football industry.
HGT paraphernalia is regularly distributed and posted in an official capacity around the Mem but in April last year, stickers in opposition to the campaign were found at the stadium, including in the clubhouse, with Rovers condemning the act and vowing to investigate.
Manager Joey Barton was criticised for a post on Twitter in February in which, during an exchange with commentator Jackie Oatley who questioned his use of the word “male” in discussing the quality of officials in the professional game, he replied: "Yep Jackie. ‘Male’.
“Mainly because the women’s game, as good as it is, it’s played a slightly different speed to the men’s. So, in terms of velocity and physicality, I’m not sure it would be best suited to ask people who haven’t experienced that to assist the officials.” As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2023 20:01:08 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-abuse-rebecca-welch-8271339Bristol Rovers launch investigation into alleged sexist abuse of referee Rebecca Welch
Rebecca Welch, who became the first female referee in EFL history in 2021, took charge of Bristol Rovers' 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week at the Mem
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe has confirmed that the club have launched an investigation following reports of sexist abuse towards referee Rebecca Welch during the Gas’ 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week.
Welch took charge of the League One encounter last Tuesday in her first appearance at the Mem, having previously officiated Rovers’ League Two clash at Hartlepool United towards the beginning of the 2021/22 League Two season.
Consensus opinion was the Washington-based official had a fine game but in his programme notes for Saturday’s visit of Portsmouth, Gorringe detailed how he had been made aware of “abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters” and has promised to take “appropriate action”.
Welch was appointed as an EFL referee in March 2021, having previously worked in the WSL and National League, and has taken charge of 35 games across League One, League Two and the EFL Trophy.
“The match on Tuesday was officiated by Rebecca Welch who oversaw our fixture for the second time,” Gorringe wrote. “For me, she is one of the best officials at this level and once again had a good game, particularly in the first half.
“Sadly, we have been made aware of some abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters during the game. As a club, we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination of any kind.
“Everyone within the stadium on the matchday has the responsibility to represent the club with integrity and act in a manner that doesn’t intimidate or make any fellow supporters feel unwelcome.
“Any complaints made will be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken, should any supporters be found to be acting in a discriminatory way. If you witness any forms of discrimination whilst at the Mem please follow the information on how to report on page 36 of today’s programme or on posters around the ground.
“Finally, if you have any issues, you can contact us on email at feedback@bristolrovers.co.uk. Together we can ensure The Mem remains a friendly environment for all supporters.”
It is the fourth such case of alleged sexist abuse this season, beginning with Rovers' match against Barnsley at Oakwell in August in which a female member of staff was targeted by discriminatory chants and the Tykes were subsequently charged by the FA.
The FA have also looked into claims from their game against Exeter City in October that a female staff member was subjected to inappropriate chants from home fans at St James’ Park.
In between that, Rovers and Accrington Stanley investigated reports that members of the travelling support at the Mem verbally abused some female home fans and subjected them to sexual harassment.
Saturday’s League One encounter against Portsmouth was Rovers’ designated HerGameToo fixture - the campaign part-founded by Gasheads Caz May and Lucy Ford which aims to eradicate sexism in the football industry.
HGT paraphernalia is regularly distributed and posted in an official capacity around the Mem but in April last year, stickers in opposition to the campaign were found at the stadium, including in the clubhouse, with Rovers condemning the act and vowing to investigate.
Manager Joey Barton was criticised for a post on Twitter in February in which, during an exchange with commentator Jackie Oatley who questioned his use of the word “male” in discussing the quality of officials in the professional game, he replied: "Yep Jackie. ‘Male’.
“Mainly because the women’s game, as good as it is, it’s played a slightly different speed to the men’s. So, in terms of velocity and physicality, I’m not sure it would be best suited to ask people who haven’t experienced that to assist the officials.” As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? I can't see how anybody can connect JB's comments on Twitter to the sexist abuse of Tuesday's ref.
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Post by herbertblake on Mar 20, 2023 20:05:28 GMT
Rebecca Welch was superb at her job in controlling the Wycombe match. For me the best so far seen at the Mem.
Kept up with play. Booked offenders quite correctly and I particularly loved it when she told Wycombe corner taker to move the ball back inside the quadrant!
Some of our fans really are!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 20:06:38 GMT
As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? I can't see how anybody can connect JB's comments on Twitter to the sexist abuse of Tuesday's ref. I guess not other than a few other idiots share the same bigoted view.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 20:08:33 GMT
Rebecca Welch was superb at her job in controlling the Wycombe match. For me the best so far seen at the Mem. Kept up with play. Booked offenders quite correctly and I particularly loved it when she told Wycombe corner taker to move the ball back inside the quadrant! Some of our fans really are!! You aren't the only one to share that opinion Herbert. Just proves that if you can do the job it doesn't matter if you are male or female.
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2023 20:11:29 GMT
As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? I can't see how anybody can connect JB's comments on Twitter to the sexist abuse of Tuesday's ref. None but the blind
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2023 20:25:29 GMT
Disappointing that some knuckle draggers still about. She probably one of the best refs we've had down the Mem this season.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 20, 2023 21:48:11 GMT
Disappointing that some knuckle draggers still about. She probably one of the best refs we've had down the Mem this season. Sad state of affairs. Society has plenty of sexists, homophobes, racists etc. etc. and I guess it’s inevitable some of them will appear in a crowd of 8000 people. Shame they darken our club’s (or any club’s) reputation with their views.
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Post by bluegas on Mar 20, 2023 23:24:55 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-abuse-rebecca-welch-8271339Bristol Rovers launch investigation into alleged sexist abuse of referee Rebecca Welch
Rebecca Welch, who became the first female referee in EFL history in 2021, took charge of Bristol Rovers' 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week at the Mem
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe has confirmed that the club have launched an investigation following reports of sexist abuse towards referee Rebecca Welch during the Gas’ 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week.
Welch took charge of the League One encounter last Tuesday in her first appearance at the Mem, having previously officiated Rovers’ League Two clash at Hartlepool United towards the beginning of the 2021/22 League Two season.
Consensus opinion was the Washington-based official had a fine game but in his programme notes for Saturday’s visit of Portsmouth, Gorringe detailed how he had been made aware of “abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters” and has promised to take “appropriate action”.
Welch was appointed as an EFL referee in March 2021, having previously worked in the WSL and National League, and has taken charge of 35 games across League One, League Two and the EFL Trophy.
“The match on Tuesday was officiated by Rebecca Welch who oversaw our fixture for the second time,” Gorringe wrote. “For me, she is one of the best officials at this level and once again had a good game, particularly in the first half.
“Sadly, we have been made aware of some abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters during the game. As a club, we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination of any kind.
“Everyone within the stadium on the matchday has the responsibility to represent the club with integrity and act in a manner that doesn’t intimidate or make any fellow supporters feel unwelcome.
“Any complaints made will be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken, should any supporters be found to be acting in a discriminatory way. If you witness any forms of discrimination whilst at the Mem please follow the information on how to report on page 36 of today’s programme or on posters around the ground.
“Finally, if you have any issues, you can contact us on email at feedback@bristolrovers.co.uk. Together we can ensure The Mem remains a friendly environment for all supporters.”
It is the fourth such case of alleged sexist abuse this season, beginning with Rovers' match against Barnsley at Oakwell in August in which a female member of staff was targeted by discriminatory chants and the Tykes were subsequently charged by the FA.
The FA have also looked into claims from their game against Exeter City in October that a female staff member was subjected to inappropriate chants from home fans at St James’ Park.
In between that, Rovers and Accrington Stanley investigated reports that members of the travelling support at the Mem verbally abused some female home fans and subjected them to sexual harassment.
Saturday’s League One encounter against Portsmouth was Rovers’ designated HerGameToo fixture - the campaign part-founded by Gasheads Caz May and Lucy Ford which aims to eradicate sexism in the football industry.
HGT paraphernalia is regularly distributed and posted in an official capacity around the Mem but in April last year, stickers in opposition to the campaign were found at the stadium, including in the clubhouse, with Rovers condemning the act and vowing to investigate.
Manager Joey Barton was criticised for a post on Twitter in February in which, during an exchange with commentator Jackie Oatley who questioned his use of the word “male” in discussing the quality of officials in the professional game, he replied: "Yep Jackie. ‘Male’.
“Mainly because the women’s game, as good as it is, it’s played a slightly different speed to the men’s. So, in terms of velocity and physicality, I’m not sure it would be best suited to ask people who haven’t experienced that to assist the officials.” As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? Yes, you can blame the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 23:33:18 GMT
As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? Yes, you can blame the fans. Agreed, I think I used the wrong term of phrase. Both as bad as each other more appropriate.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 21, 2023 0:04:29 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-abuse-rebecca-welch-8271339Bristol Rovers launch investigation into alleged sexist abuse of referee Rebecca Welch
Rebecca Welch, who became the first female referee in EFL history in 2021, took charge of Bristol Rovers' 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week at the Mem
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe has confirmed that the club have launched an investigation following reports of sexist abuse towards referee Rebecca Welch during the Gas’ 2-0 defeat to Wycombe Wanderers last week.
Welch took charge of the League One encounter last Tuesday in her first appearance at the Mem, having previously officiated Rovers’ League Two clash at Hartlepool United towards the beginning of the 2021/22 League Two season.
Consensus opinion was the Washington-based official had a fine game but in his programme notes for Saturday’s visit of Portsmouth, Gorringe detailed how he had been made aware of “abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters” and has promised to take “appropriate action”.
Welch was appointed as an EFL referee in March 2021, having previously worked in the WSL and National League, and has taken charge of 35 games across League One, League Two and the EFL Trophy.
“The match on Tuesday was officiated by Rebecca Welch who oversaw our fixture for the second time,” Gorringe wrote. “For me, she is one of the best officials at this level and once again had a good game, particularly in the first half.
“Sadly, we have been made aware of some abuse and discrimination from a minority of supporters during the game. As a club, we have a zero tolerance policy on discrimination of any kind.
“Everyone within the stadium on the matchday has the responsibility to represent the club with integrity and act in a manner that doesn’t intimidate or make any fellow supporters feel unwelcome.
“Any complaints made will be investigated thoroughly and appropriate action taken, should any supporters be found to be acting in a discriminatory way. If you witness any forms of discrimination whilst at the Mem please follow the information on how to report on page 36 of today’s programme or on posters around the ground.
“Finally, if you have any issues, you can contact us on email at feedback@bristolrovers.co.uk. Together we can ensure The Mem remains a friendly environment for all supporters.”
It is the fourth such case of alleged sexist abuse this season, beginning with Rovers' match against Barnsley at Oakwell in August in which a female member of staff was targeted by discriminatory chants and the Tykes were subsequently charged by the FA.
The FA have also looked into claims from their game against Exeter City in October that a female staff member was subjected to inappropriate chants from home fans at St James’ Park.
In between that, Rovers and Accrington Stanley investigated reports that members of the travelling support at the Mem verbally abused some female home fans and subjected them to sexual harassment.
Saturday’s League One encounter against Portsmouth was Rovers’ designated HerGameToo fixture - the campaign part-founded by Gasheads Caz May and Lucy Ford which aims to eradicate sexism in the football industry.
HGT paraphernalia is regularly distributed and posted in an official capacity around the Mem but in April last year, stickers in opposition to the campaign were found at the stadium, including in the clubhouse, with Rovers condemning the act and vowing to investigate.
Manager Joey Barton was criticised for a post on Twitter in February in which, during an exchange with commentator Jackie Oatley who questioned his use of the word “male” in discussing the quality of officials in the professional game, he replied: "Yep Jackie. ‘Male’.
“Mainly because the women’s game, as good as it is, it’s played a slightly different speed to the men’s. So, in terms of velocity and physicality, I’m not sure it would be best suited to ask people who haven’t experienced that to assist the officials.” As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? Barton was referencing the suggestion that ex-players should be used to advise officials on decisions, making use of their experience of playing the game. The rules for football are the same for both sexes, we just need referees (male or female) who know the rules and are able to spot infringements accordingly. However, there isn't a level comparison between the men's and women's game, so he was saying that if this came to pass it would make sense to have ex-male players advising refs officiating in men's football. By default, there would be ex-women players advising officials at the women's game. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Post by oldie on Mar 21, 2023 5:24:08 GMT
As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? Barton was referencing the suggestion that ex-players should be used to advise officials on decisions, making use of their experience of playing the game. The rules for football are the same for both sexes, we just need referees (male or female) who know the rules and are able to spot infringements accordingly. However, there isn't a level comparison between the men's and women's game, so he was saying that if this came to pass it would make sense to have ex-male players advising refs officiating in men's football. By default, there would be ex-women players advising officials at the women's game. Makes perfect sense to me. Wow So the rules of the game are identical but their interpretation is gender dependent? Which world is this where that could be possibly true? Are there no female barristers? Talk about life on Mars.
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Mar 21, 2023 5:30:57 GMT
As the report states, our manager doesn't approve of female officials so you can't blame the fans for supporting the managers views, can you? Barton was referencing the suggestion that ex-players should be used to advise officials on decisions, making use of their experience of playing the game. The rules for football are the same for both sexes, we just need referees (male or female) who know the rules and are able to spot infringements accordingly. However, there isn't a level comparison between the men's and women's game, so he was saying that if this came to pass it would make sense to have ex-male players advising refs officiating in men's football. By default, there would be ex-women players advising officials at the women's game. Makes perfect sense to me. Wowzers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 7:14:58 GMT
"To have to fight and claw and scratch for dignity and respect so easily granted to someone of the opposite gender doing the same job as you, wears you down...over time inequality will grind you down and possibly break you. It is felt. It is damaging. It hurts." – Sarah Gregorius
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Post by justin blue on Mar 21, 2023 8:21:20 GMT
"To have to fight and claw and scratch for dignity and respect so easily granted to someone of the opposite gender doing the same job as you, wears you down...over time inequality will grind you down and possibly break you. It is felt. It is damaging. It hurts." – Sarah Gregorius I think we all have to let go of our pre-conceived views and accept that the game and the world is changing. I think women are equally adept at officiating games, Women are now part of football and we have to accept and respect them as equals within the game.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 21, 2023 8:23:27 GMT
Barton was referencing the suggestion that ex-players should be used to advise officials on decisions, making use of their experience of playing the game. The rules for football are the same for both sexes, we just need referees (male or female) who know the rules and are able to spot infringements accordingly. However, there isn't a level comparison between the men's and women's game, so he was saying that if this came to pass it would make sense to have ex-male players advising refs officiating in men's football. By default, there would be ex-women players advising officials at the women's game. Makes perfect sense to me. Wow So the rules of the game are identical but their interpretation is gender dependent? Which world is this where that could be possibly true? Are there no female barristers? Talk about life on Mars. What is the relevance of female barristers? Nobody was suggesting that female officials should not operate in the men’s game.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 21, 2023 8:34:03 GMT
"To have to fight and claw and scratch for dignity and respect so easily granted to someone of the opposite gender doing the same job as you, wears you down...over time inequality will grind you down and possibly break you. It is felt. It is damaging. It hurts." – Sarah Gregorius I played ladies football long before it became fashionable. Nobody has said that it’s not been difficult for women to make their way in the game as players or officials.
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