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Post by islandgas on May 2, 2016 15:01:11 GMT
Therovers, i agree with you. Before Taylor the last great striker we has was Lambert and we had many years playing with little goal threat after he left us. I think people forget quite quickly what it is like when you haven't got a good striker in the team. It changes nearly everything about the match day experience and you lose much more regularly. Decent strikers are very hard to find and dont come cheap. With money anyone is replaceable but how much will we really have next year?
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Post by Strange Gas on May 2, 2016 15:16:08 GMT
Keeping DC will be our number 1 problem in my view. Sort that and I'm sure the squad will take care of itself under his careful management, with or without our current best attackers in tow. I also suspect some of those likely to leave may have a bit more loyalty to DC than they do to BRFC
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Post by therovers on May 2, 2016 15:20:43 GMT
Keeping DC will be our number 1 problem in my view. Sort that and I'm sure the squad will take care of itself under his careful management, with or without our current best attackers in tow. I also suspect some of those likely to leave may have a bit more loyalty to DC than they do to BRFC agree with you about Darrell. Keeping him is ESSENTIAL imo.
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Post by gregsy on May 2, 2016 15:42:16 GMT
Keeping DC will be our number 1 problem in my view. Sort that and I'm sure the squad will take care of itself under his careful management, with or without our current best attackers in tow. I also suspect some of those likely to leave may have a bit more loyalty to DC than they do to BRFC agree with you about Darrell. Keeping him is ESSENTIAL imo. change thread title to:
can we finally keep our best managers
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 15:46:36 GMT
can't see taylor staying if we don't go up. you cant blame him for wanting to play at the highest level but at the end of the day we managed to find goal scorers before matty taylor and we will continue to find them after hes gone. the only disappointment will be us receiving £0 in return for his services if he leaves. It doesn't say alot for Taylor if he's just prepared to walk out on the club for nothing, when they've taken him from the football scrapheap (as an average at best Conference striker ) to the top scorer in league football? Hahaha! Hahaha!
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Post by therovers on May 2, 2016 15:52:46 GMT
It doesn't say alot for Taylor if he's just prepared to walk out on the club for nothing, when they've taken him from the football scrapheap (as an average at best Conference striker ) to the top scorer in league football? Hahaha! Hahaha! yes, we know. He'd be un-ambitious & looking for the easy life if he stayed with the Gas, just like Brown, right? Hell... If the money was right, you'd go and support the sh!t instead of Gas wouldn't you?... UTG
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 16:23:50 GMT
yes, we know. He'd be un-ambitious & looking for the easy life if he stayed with the Gas, just like Brown, right? Hell... If the money was right, you'd go and support the sh!t instead of Gas wouldn't you?... UTG That doesn't make any sense. Footballers and loyalty is rare now due to money. Brown couldn't have been offered enough to leave.. if Taylor got a good offer, who would begrudge him? Even if we went up, if a better offer came in he'd be off. Not sure what your last jibe means? I don't get paid to follow Rovers, I've spent thousands doing it though. I will have a laugh at the statements on here since a while ago, Taylor was sh** and couldn't finish!
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Post by therovers on May 2, 2016 16:34:44 GMT
yes, we know. He'd be un-ambitious & looking for the easy life if he stayed with the Gas, just like Brown, right? Hell... If the money was right, you'd go and support the sh!t instead of Gas wouldn't you?... UTG That doesn't make any sense. Footballers and loyalty is rare now due to money. Brown couldn't have been offered enough to leave.. if Taylor got a good offer, who would begrudge him? Even if we went up, if a better offer came in he'd be off. Not sure what your last jibe means? I don't get paid to follow Rovers, I've spent thousands doing it though. I will have a laugh at the statements on here since a while ago, Taylor was sh** and couldn't finish! well it just seems that you feel it's all about money and that any loyalty that does exist in football, isn't really loyalty at all, there's some other reason (negative, such as laziness or lack of ambition) attached to it that makes them stay with the current club.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 2, 2016 16:35:10 GMT
agree with you about Darrell. Keeping him is ESSENTIAL imo. change thread title to:
can we finally keep our best managers
Haha! Well in my nearly 30 years of supporting the Gas, only 3 managers have actually taken us forward. Gerry Francis, who left for the equivalent of the premier league, Paul Trollope, who we sacked, and our present manager.
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Post by beaver132 on May 2, 2016 16:35:31 GMT
I believe that during an article in 'The Sun, MT made no bones about being willing to sit down with anyone willing to make an offer. I suppose that might mean us as well, but I think it means he has no intention, and indeed no wish, to stay. He's had a strange relationship with the fans if you ask me, some never having taken to him, and I suspect the feeling may be mutual. Don't know why.
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Post by Strange Gas on May 2, 2016 17:00:49 GMT
change thread title to:
can we finally keep our best managers
Haha! Well in my nearly 30 years of supporting the Gas, only 3 managers have actually taken us forward. Gerry Francis, who left for the equivalent of the premier league, Paul Trollope, who we sacked, and our present manager. Haha! indeed, that is very true . . . can we keep our brilliant manager and can our brilliant manager keep being brilliant maybe?! Pretty rare in football generally as so often good managers turn sh**e before they get chance to move on, usually cos they can't make the step up to next level [Cue list of managers this hasn't applied to . . .] but pretty sure DC will look to make the most of his strong position (before he loses his way) to find his next job. So get the handcuffs out please Wael. Given his age, I genuinely think he will be managerial hot property
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 17:06:14 GMT
That doesn't make any sense. Footballers and loyalty is rare now due to money. Brown couldn't have been offered enough to leave.. if Taylor got a good offer, who would begrudge him? Even if we went up, if a better offer came in he'd be off. Not sure what your last jibe means? I don't get paid to follow Rovers, I've spent thousands doing it though. I will have a laugh at the statements on here since a while ago, Taylor was sh** and couldn't finish! well it just seems that you feel it's all about money and that any loyalty that does exist in football, isn't really loyalty at all, there's some other reason (negative, such as laziness or lack of ambition) attached to it that makes them stay with the current club. Yeah, that's right. Your previous post didn't hit the point though. Taylor will leave for more money or better prospects.
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Post by Strange Gas on May 2, 2016 17:08:33 GMT
I believe that during an article in 'The Sun, MT made no bones about being willing to sit down with anyone willing to make an offer. I suppose that might mean us as well, but I think it means he has no intention, and indeed no wish, to stay. He's had a strange relationship with the fans if you ask me, some never having taken to him, and I suspect the feeling may be mutual. Don't know why. I am inclined to agree, but I do think he may have some sense of loyalty to DC (or the set up, inc MS) given the level of faith placed in him against much hostility. However I doubt that will be able to trump a big pay day and as many girls as his tongue can handle at a higher level. I am sure we all really hope he doesn't go cheap though, but thats just us being greedy much like we suspect he will be!!
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Post by therovers on May 2, 2016 17:09:44 GMT
well it just seems that you feel it's all about money and that any loyalty that does exist in football, isn't really loyalty at all, there's some other reason (negative, such as laziness or lack of ambition) attached to it that makes them stay with the current club. Yeah, that's right. Your previous post didn't hit the point though. Taylor will leave for more money or better prospects. and if you were him, you'd leave the Gas wouldn't you? In fact if YOU, the ''gashead'' were in his position, you'd leave the Gas, wouldn't you! You think he'd be an idiot to stay with us, don't you? Certainly your past posts have suggested that this is the case.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 2, 2016 18:01:26 GMT
Yeah, that's right. Your previous post didn't hit the point though. Taylor will leave for more money or better prospects. and if you were him, you'd leave the Gas wouldn't you? In fact if YOU, the ''gashead'' were in his position, you'd leave the Gas, wouldn't you! You think he'd be an idiot to stay with us, don't you? Certainly your past posts have suggested that this is the case. Still feels like a knife in the back to me, DC makes him a prized footballer and he just quits leaving us for nothing, I guess we have to thank Mr Bosnam for that.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 2, 2016 18:05:02 GMT
change thread title to:
can we finally keep our best managers
Haha! Well in my nearly 30 years of supporting the Gas, only 3 managers have actually taken us forward. Gerry Francis, who left for the equivalent of the premier league, Paul Trollope, who we sacked, and our present manager. Hasn't DC just taken us back to where he started? Although he is with Megson, GF, PT/LL one of the handful to get us promoted, perhaps he could become the first shortly to achieve a double promotion, followed by a triple next season if we keep our best players.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 2, 2016 18:11:19 GMT
and if you were him, you'd leave the Gas wouldn't you? In fact if YOU, the ''gashead'' were in his position, you'd leave the Gas, wouldn't you! You think he'd be an idiot to stay with us, don't you? Certainly your past posts have suggested that this is the case. Still feels like a knife in the back to me, DC makes him a prized footballer and he just quits leaving us for nothing, I guess we have to thank Mr Bosnam for that. and if MT stayed another season thanks to DC, would he feel the same if some top club came in for DC and he left us for no money ? Works both ways Money talks i'm sad to say and he will go to the biggest pot of money on offer
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Post by Okebournegas on May 2, 2016 18:18:35 GMT
Yeah, that's right. Your previous post didn't hit the point though. Taylor will leave for more money or better prospects. and if you were him, you'd leave the Gas wouldn't you? In fact if YOU, the ''gashead'' were in his position, you'd leave the Gas, wouldn't you! You think he'd be an idiot to stay with us, don't you? Certainly your past posts have suggested that this is the case. Matty Taylor isn't a rovers fan like us though is he , this is his career and as much as it pains me to say we will end up being a stepping stone in his career. Of course if a bigger club comes along with more money and better prospects he will be off , and can you honestly begrudge him a move after what he's done thus far for us ? Football is not a long career and they have to look after themselves and their families. If I went in to work tomorrow and our rival tyre firm offered to double my money and offer me a better pension plan I would be gone in a heartbeat! What we have to realise is just because we would give our right arm to play for the gas it doesn't mean footballers want to because they aren't supporters it their place of work.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 2, 2016 18:22:43 GMT
Haha! Well in my nearly 30 years of supporting the Gas, only 3 managers have actually taken us forward. Gerry Francis, who left for the equivalent of the premier league, Paul Trollope, who we sacked, and our present manager. Hasn't DC just taken us back to where he started? Although he is with Megson, GF, PT/LL one of the handful to get us promoted, perhaps he could become the first shortly to achieve a double promotion, followed by a triple next season if we keep our best players. I think that's a pretty harsh assessment, to say that we're back where we started. I know that technically, yes we're in the same league as when he inherited a sinking ship, but we are in the higher reaches of the league, rather than teetering on the brink of the relegation places. That is taking the club forward, in my opinion. Here's hoping he can do the back to back promotion, yes. Even then, I'm not sure that the achievement would be quite on a par with Gerry's miracle working on what was truly a shoestring budget.
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Post by bs9trymer on May 2, 2016 18:30:25 GMT
and if you were him, you'd leave the Gas wouldn't you? In fact if YOU, the ''gashead'' were in his position, you'd leave the Gas, wouldn't you! You think he'd be an idiot to stay with us, don't you? Certainly your past posts have suggested that this is the case. Matty Taylor isn't a rovers fan like us though is he , this is his career and as much as it pains me to say we will end up being a stepping stone in his career. Of course if a bigger club comes along with more money and better prospects he will be off , and can you honestly begrudge him a move after what he's done thus far for us ? Football is not a long career and they have to look after themselves and their families. If I went in to work tomorrow and our rival tyre firm offered to double my money and offer me a better pension plan I would be gone in a heartbeat! What we have to realise is just because we would give our right arm to play for the gas it doesn't mean footballers want to because they aren't supporters it their place of work. Exactly,Matty Taylor owes Rovers nothing,he has been paid to do a job and he has done it,if he can get more pay somewhere else then good luck to him,if Rovers want to keep him they have to match the wages. I have seen loads of players and managers go on to bigger clubs,its a fact of life,we used to be pleased for them in fact I remember going to Wembley with other Rovers supporters to see Gary Mabbutt make his England debut against West Germany months after he left for Totts..before that Larry Lloyd went to Liverpool,Graydon to villa etc etc. I think that its supporters that should stay loyal but some even turned their coats in 76 when city got promoted !!!
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