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Post by Jomo on May 28, 2016 11:47:34 GMT
Over the moon that DC is staying with us. DC is great in motivating players and choosing "freebies" with great potential. However he is very inexperienced with purchasing players - the acquisition of Blissett was frankly a disaster. £50,000 down the drain? A big test for DC is how he now plays the transfer market. To be a top manager in the future he has got to demonstrate that he can "work the transfer market". To be fair, he was signed as "one for the future" but for whatever reasons we got rid. He scored important goals for us and then went and scored important goals for Torquay. Very true, I just think that Blissett's confidence was down after the initial honeymoon period, and he needed somewhere where he could be more of a main man again. He could still make the league if he improves further at Torquay and it seems an ideal fit for him. I don't think the move was a disaster, it just wasn't quite right, and I'm sure as has been the case until now, that DC will get far more right than he does wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:58:32 GMT
Surely that performance bloke will play a big part in helping him with that though? Dubey will indeed essentially act as chief scout. In theory, he should have a list of players ready for DC to scrutinise and pick his favourite. Yes I think we will be looking at players who were way off our radar until now.As long as Darrell still has the final say on their mentality then all will be well.
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Post by youmadethatup on May 28, 2016 12:06:48 GMT
I suspect the big change will occur when the money for the mem site comes through. My complete guess is that the uwe stadium will be financed independently from the mem sale ,with the £30 million ish going to new player purchases. I'm guessing that it will be hoped that the club are in the championship at that point so the £30m + can when added to the existing squad provide a squad that can push for the premier league. Until then I'm guessing moderate money will be made available through the season to gather a squad capable of a playoff push. Which as DC states is what the aim should be every season.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 28, 2016 12:20:19 GMT
£30m going sorely on new player purchases? Given so far Wael's spent zilch on player recruitment where does that figure come from?
As far as the OP what's the point in this thread? DC could live on the moon for all I care if he carries on get us promoted each season but if Neil Warnock can live in Plymouth and Tony Pulis in Bournemouth surely we can cope with DC staying based in Eastleigh.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 12:20:51 GMT
I suspect the big change will occur when the money for the mem site comes through. My complete guess is that the uwe stadium will be financed independently from the mem sale ,with the £30 million ish going to new player purchases. I'm guessing that it will be hoped that the club are in the championship at that point so the £30m + can when added to the existing squad provide a squad that can push for the premier league. Until then I'm guessing moderate money will be made available through the season to gather a squad capable of a playoff push. Which as DC states is what the aim should be every season. Strong username to post correlation.
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Post by axegas on May 28, 2016 13:01:43 GMT
£30m going sorely on new player purchases? Given so far Wael's spent zilch on player recruitment where does that figure come from? As far as the OP what's the point in this thread? DC could live on the moon for all I care if he carries on get us promoted each season but if Neil Warnock can live in Plymouth and Tony Pulis in Bournemouth surely we can cope with DC staying based in Eastleigh. I think he means the 30m will come from the sale of the mem. This is of course is fanciful to say the least, I'd be surprised if the mem was sold for anything over 15m and the profits would go to investors and the clubs infrastructure rather than the wage budget. Talking about the premier league is a bit delusional at this point of time IMO
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Post by Topper Gas on May 28, 2016 14:11:51 GMT
Agreed even if we get to the Championship under DC then becoming the next Bournemouth/Burnley will take massive investment on the playing front.
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Post by aghast on May 28, 2016 15:28:48 GMT
I think we'd need at least £10m in transfer fees and higher salaries to even survive in the Championship. If we did actually manage to get there in two years, presumably the sale of the Mem is expected to cover it. If for some reason we can't sell the ground, I wonder where the money will come from? I can understand backers putting money into a new stadium, but not salaries.
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Post by stevethepirate on May 28, 2016 15:44:58 GMT
To be honest I am more scared he goes off to a sleeping giant like Shrewsbury.
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Post by youmadethatup on May 28, 2016 16:05:50 GMT
£30m going sorely on new player purchases? Given so far Wael's spent zilch on player recruitment where does that figure come from? As far as the OP what's the point in this thread? DC could live on the moon for all I care if he carries on get us promoted each season but if Neil Warnock can live in Plymouth and Tony Pulis in Bournemouth surely we can cope with DC staying based in Eastleigh. The £30m that would be the income from the mem site sale based solely on past figures thrown around. This would allow the owners to invest in the club heavily on the playing front without it actually hitting their own pocket . The same principle of raising outside funds to pay for the uwe stadium instead of using their own money. As DC says if a manager doesn't aim at the playoffs or promotion what message does that send to the players and fans ? In the same way if the board don't aim for the very top what does that say to everyone ? You have to have ambition surely. The overall effect being gaining a good stadium and good team without using much of your own money ,a bit like how banks make money.
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Post by long john silver on May 28, 2016 16:14:09 GMT
I suspect the big change will occur when the money for the mem site comes through. My complete guess is that the uwe stadium will be financed independently from the mem sale ,with the £30 million ish going to new player purchases. I'm guessing that it will be hoped that the club are in the championship at that point so the £30m + can when added to the existing squad provide a squad that can push for the premier league. Until then I'm guessing moderate money will be made available through the season to gather a squad capable of a playoff push. Which as DC states is what the aim should be every season. the amount of guess work and pure speculation to come out of this forum over the last few days is incredible.
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Post by youmadethatup on May 28, 2016 16:18:04 GMT
I suspect the big change will occur when the money for the mem site comes through. My complete guess is that the uwe stadium will be financed independently from the mem sale ,with the £30 million ish going to new player purchases. I'm guessing that it will be hoped that the club are in the championship at that point so the £30m + can when added to the existing squad provide a squad that can push for the premier league. Until then I'm guessing moderate money will be made available through the season to gather a squad capable of a playoff push. Which as DC states is what the aim should be every season. the amount of guess work and pure speculation to come out of this forum over the last few days is incredible. Yes ,but when its labeled as guesses people can understand its a guess and should treat as hypothetical situations. It's when people state things as if they are fact that the problems occur
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Post by Topper Gas on May 28, 2016 16:21:40 GMT
£30m going sorely on new player purchases? Given so far Wael's spent zilch on player recruitment where does that figure come from? As far as the OP what's the point in this thread? DC could live on the moon for all I care if he carries on get us promoted each season but if Neil Warnock can live in Plymouth and Tony Pulis in Bournemouth surely we can cope with DC staying based in Eastleigh. The £30m that would be the income from the mem site sale based solely on past figures thrown around. This would allow the owners to invest in the club heavily on the playing front without it actually hitting their own pocket . The same principle of raising outside funds to pay for the uwe stadium instead of using their own money. As DC says if a manager doesn't aim at the playoffs or promotion what message does that send to the players and fans ? In the same way if the board don't aim for the very top what does that say to everyone ? You have to have ambition surely. The overall effect being gaining a good stadium and good team without using much of your own money ,a bit like how banks make money. £30m was the inflated price Sainsbury's were going to pay to build a supermarket on the land, but even they coughed at paying that much. Waitrose were rumoured to be the next highest at £22m but if Wael wants a quick sale he's likely to go for a residential land sale which would probably "only" make £15m. Regardless, unless I've missed it, I've not seen Wael or SH suggest the proceeds from the sale of the Mem are going to be handed over to DC for player recruitment. For all we know that's going to pay off the wonga loan etc & /or purchase the training ground, they are apparently buying this summer. As Wael takes about evolution not revolution I can't see handing DC a £30m transfer kitty is the former? I can see him just being given a good wage budget for Div 1 which is probably £2.5/£3m this season.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 28, 2016 16:31:55 GMT
I think it depends on how much extra revenue can be generated from the uwe site to service the funds that look like they will be externally provided. If they build a hotel and put office space inside the stadium structure this could be considerable. Let's say we borrow 60m at 3% per annum that's 1.8m per season to find in interest payments. Could this be generated by external revenue, possibly. Add in three concerts a year as well and the debt servicing looks pretty straight forward. Obviously to gain investment at a low interest rate the al qadi's would need to guarantee the loans. If the scheme they are now working on can finance itself without the need for the mem money we really are looking at a whole new ball game.
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Post by long john silver on May 28, 2016 16:35:56 GMT
Steve Hamer stated in a interview that any money made from the sale of the mem will go directly into the UWE site.
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Post by youmadethatup on May 28, 2016 16:37:20 GMT
The £30m that would be the income from the mem site sale based solely on past figures thrown around. This would allow the owners to invest in the club heavily on the playing front without it actually hitting their own pocket . The same principle of raising outside funds to pay for the uwe stadium instead of using their own money. As DC says if a manager doesn't aim at the playoffs or promotion what message does that send to the players and fans ? In the same way if the board don't aim for the very top what does that say to everyone ? You have to have ambition surely. The overall effect being gaining a good stadium and good team without using much of your own money ,a bit like how banks make money. £30m was the inflated price Sainsbury's were going to pay to build a supermarket on the land, but even they coughed at paying that much. Waitrose were rumoured to be the next highest at £22m but if Wael wants a quick sale he's likely to go for a residential land sale which would probably "only" make £15m. Regardless, unless I've missed it, I've not seen Wael or SH suggest the proceeds from the sale of the Mem are going to be handed over to DC for player recruitment. For all we know that's going to pay off the wonga loan etc & /or purchase the training ground, they are apparently buying this summer. As Wael takes about evolution not revolution I can't see handing DC a £30m transfer kitty is the former? I can see him just being given a good wage budget for Div 1 which is probably £2.5/£3m this season. You would be a right mug to announce to the football world "we have £30m to spend on players, now how much do you want for your right back ? " £2m,£10m,£20m,£30m,£40m whatever...it's the funds generated. I thought wonga was already paid off ? £30m is not revolution when contemplating a prem push . I wonder how much Bristol city have paid out in wages,transfer fees and loan signings in the last two years ?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 16:40:06 GMT
The £30m that would be the income from the mem site sale based solely on past figures thrown around. This would allow the owners to invest in the club heavily on the playing front without it actually hitting their own pocket . The same principle of raising outside funds to pay for the uwe stadium instead of using their own money. As DC says if a manager doesn't aim at the playoffs or promotion what message does that send to the players and fans ? In the same way if the board don't aim for the very top what does that say to everyone ? You have to have ambition surely. The overall effect being gaining a good stadium and good team without using much of your own money ,a bit like how banks make money. £30m was the inflated price Sainsbury's were going to pay to build a supermarket on the land, but even they coughed at paying that much. Waitrose were rumoured to be the next highest at £22m but if Wael wants a quick sale he's likely to go for a residential land sale which would probably "only" make £15m. Regardless, unless I've missed it, I've not seen Wael or SH suggest the proceeds from the sale of the Mem are going to be handed over to DC for player recruitment. For all we know that's going to pay off the wonga loan etc & /or purchase the training ground, they are apparently buying this summer. As Wael takes about evolution not revolution I can't see handing DC a £30m transfer kitty is the former? I can see him just being given a good wage budget for Div 1 which is probably £2.5/£3m this season. Read what the man says. He says 'guessing' and 'I guess' at least THREE times!! In his other post.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 28, 2016 16:40:56 GMT
£30m was the inflated price Sainsbury's were going to pay to build a supermarket on the land, but even they coughed at paying that much. Waitrose were rumoured to be the next highest at £22m but if Wael wants a quick sale he's likely to go for a residential land sale which would probably "only" make £15m. Regardless, unless I've missed it, I've not seen Wael or SH suggest the proceeds from the sale of the Mem are going to be handed over to DC for player recruitment. For all we know that's going to pay off the wonga loan etc & /or purchase the training ground, they are apparently buying this summer. As Wael takes about evolution not revolution I can't see handing DC a £30m transfer kitty is the former? I can see him just being given a good wage budget for Div 1 which is probably £2.5/£3m this season. You would be a right mug to announce to the football world "we have £30m to spend on players, now how much do you want for your right back ? " £2m,£10m,£20m,£30m,£40m whatever...it's the funds generated. I thought wonga was already paid off ? £30m is not revolution when contemplating a prem push . I wonder how much Bristol city have paid out in wages,transfer fees and loan signings in the last two years ? Yes exactly which is why wael is keeping everything low key, who actually pays transfer fees in league one anyway, seems to be only championship clubs doing that these days. Forgot about naming rights which will bring in millions over ten years. Wonder how much Amex paid brighton.
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Post by youmadethatup on May 28, 2016 16:45:07 GMT
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Post by newmarketgas on May 28, 2016 16:46:05 GMT
Could the new guys not develop the Mem site themselves ? Huge money to be made then ?
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