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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 16:49:36 GMT
Could the new guys not develop the Mem site themselves ? Huge money to be made then ? I said the same a while ago. Whichever,Wael certainly has the contacts to either sell or develope.
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Post by gregsy on May 28, 2016 16:57:54 GMT
Could the new guys not develop the Mem site themselves ? Huge money to be made then ? as long as it's a hotel with a tennis court on the roof, and a bar that shows sky sports it should be ok....
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 4:10:24 GMT
who's to say wael didn't buy him a house as a signing on/promotion/wedding bonus? wouldn't cost him f**k all Yeah it would. Houses aren't free you know. Yes they are. If you're a refugee/are unemployed with children, you get free accommodation. if you can't tick the box of being a parent of some sort of victim, it's soup kitchens and homeless shelters pretty much.
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Post by Langford Gas on May 29, 2016 5:17:42 GMT
Over the moon that DC is staying with us. DC is great in motivating players and choosing "freebies" with great potential. However he is very inexperienced with purchasing players - the acquisition of Blissett was frankly a disaster. £50,000 down the drain? A big test for DC is how he now plays the transfer market. To be a top manager in the future he has got to demonstrate that he can "work the transfer market". I wouldn't call Bliss a disaster. 50k was a gamble worth taking and he played his part in getting us out of the conference, scoring a few goals along the way. In fairness to DC and Bliss, I think most of us would have signed him after his performance against us and were happy we did ! I know I was
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 29, 2016 7:45:55 GMT
Yeah it would. Houses aren't free you know. Yes they are. If you're a refugee/are unemployed with children, you get free accommodation. if you can't tick the box of being a parent of some sort of victim, it's soup kitchens and homeless shelters pretty much. Touché!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 29, 2016 8:38:45 GMT
Even so you'd expect some logic behind what somebody posts on here, ...
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Post by Topper Gas on May 29, 2016 8:39:25 GMT
That's already 2 years out of date so that figure is probably £20m+ by now with SKy money £6m alone next season.
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Post by orgasmic on May 29, 2016 10:41:35 GMT
People talking about the Championship and Prem are an embarrassment! We haven't even kicked a ball in L1 yet Ffs! Let's discuss the Championship as and when we are in with a genuine chance of promotion with 10 games to go.
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Post by Jomo on May 29, 2016 10:56:27 GMT
People talking about the Championship and Prem are an embarrassment! We haven't even kicked a ball in L1 yet Ffs! Let's discuss the Championship as and when we are in with a genuine chance of promotion with 10 games to go. I certainly see where you're coming from, but it's mostly just hypothetical discussion as far as I can see, and there's nothing wrong with that. We have more realistic aims of the Championship now than ever before, not necessarily this season or next, but I think it's realistic to think it's only a matter of time before we get there as long as our owners continue the good work and lay the right foundations in place.
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Post by Strange Gas on May 29, 2016 13:08:11 GMT
I can't see any of the money from mem sale being directly spent on playing side and not sure wael is going to spend much / any of his on players either. My guess (I think I can say that) is the investment will be in infrastructure to generate more income so we become sustainable, and then reinvest. Hamer was very clear to say playing budget would be competitive, no more, no less. I think DC relishes that challenge as making himself known for alchemy / turning water in to wine will make him more valuable than being known as a big spender / gambler. It's a rare talent he seems to have, he'd be silly to try and compete with the big spenders for now and must know that is part of the deal here
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Post by youmadethatup on May 29, 2016 13:46:17 GMT
If you were to use BCFC s wage bill from 2012 at £15m and divide that by an average say of £30 a ticket and 23 home games . You would be looking at needing 22,000 every game to cover the wage bill. City's wages were on the lower end of the scale some clubs had double that. As the uwe is supposed to be 21,700 rovers are already off target. Bournemouth's wage bill when in league one was £11m. Commercial activity and sponsorship is going to play a bigger and bigger role I suspect
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 29, 2016 14:13:02 GMT
I can't see any of the money from mem sale being directly spent on playing side and not sure wael is going to spend much / any of his on players either. My guess (I think I can say that) is the investment will be in infrastructure to generate more income so we become sustainable, and then reinvest. Hamer was very clear to say playing budget would be competitive, no more, no less. I think DC relishes that challenge as making himself known for alchemy / turning water in to wine will make him more valuable than being known as a big spender / gambler. It's a rare talent he seems to have, he'd be silly to try and compete with the big spenders for now and must know that is part of the deal here competitive with who though, coventry, sheff utd and charlton or Oldham and Rochdale?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 14:19:25 GMT
If you were to use BCFC s wage bill from 2012 at £15m and divide that by an average say of £30 a ticket and 23 home games . You would be looking at needing 22,000 every game to cover the wage bill. City's wages were on the lower end of the scale some clubs had double that. As the uwe is supposed to be 21,700 rovers are already off target. Bournemouth's wage bill when in league one was £11m. Commercial activity and sponsorship is going to play a bigger and bigger role I suspect Plus what they get for being in the Championship,must be a fair amount
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Post by socrates on May 29, 2016 14:56:34 GMT
I can't see any of the money from mem sale being directly spent on playing side and not sure wael is going to spend much / any of his on players either. My guess (I think I can say that) is the investment will be in infrastructure to generate more income so we become sustainable, and then reinvest. Hamer was very clear to say playing budget would be competitive, no more, no less. I think DC relishes that challenge as making himself known for alchemy / turning water in to wine will make him more valuable than being known as a big spender / gambler. It's a rare talent he seems to have, he'd be silly to try and compete with the big spenders for now and must know that is part of the deal here competitive with who though, coventry, sheff utd and charlton or Oldham and Rochdale? Probably the latter but it's not what you spend its how you spend it.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 29, 2016 15:08:07 GMT
competitive with who though, coventry, sheff utd and charlton or Oldham and Rochdale? Probably the latter but it's not what you spend its how you spend it. I think until uwe is on the horizon it's going to be a holding operation in league one, although i imagine dc has received assurances this will happen within the three years of his contract.
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Post by warehamgas on May 29, 2016 15:34:51 GMT
I wouldn't call Bliss a disaster. 50k was a gamble worth taking and he played his part in getting us out of the conference, scoring a few goals along the way. In fairness to DC and Bliss, I think most of us would have signed him after his performance against us and were happy we did ! I know I was Agree. I think the thing when we signed Bliss was we had to get out of the Conference. Forget about next step, get out of conference. We did that and Bliss was goodish in the season and scored a few goals and played well in play off semi finals against FGR. Dummy for Lines goal was great. Next season different project, DC felt he wasn't going to do it. Was a shame but we know with DC he tells it as it is. I hope Bliss gets Torquay promoted next season but I don't disagree with DC. Simple, straightforward strategy. UTG! ps Sorry, off thread I realised.
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Post by beaver132 on May 29, 2016 16:22:47 GMT
Comments about how much money splashes around the championship is scary. OK for the season you get there, frightening if you go down after a couple of years or so. You can see why Wael and Hammer are always on about being sustainable and an evolutionary process.
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Post by warehamgas on May 29, 2016 17:44:37 GMT
Comments about how much money splashes around the championship is scary. OK for the season you get there, frightening if you go down after a couple of years or so. You can see why Wael and Hammer are always on about being sustainable and an evolutionary process. It is scary. Thing is to be sustainable in the Championship season after season we would need to grow 10 times as big I would imagine. That is what our new owners seem to want, to grow bit by bit and become sustainable after each step. I like a man with a realistic plan! Having seen Bournemouth do it then we can. Bournemouth did it after 2 seasons and with much of the team that was in League 1. They added Calum Wilson and Yann Kermogan (a very good player, but a journeyman) which made a bit of a difference!! But not much else and similarities are obvious. Eddie H added a few players each season to a very close and capable squad. Those that remained just got better and better. But I'm not imagining we could do it that would be silly. Teams don't get promotion 2 years on the trot with a last minute goal to do the second promo. It doesn't happen! UTG!
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Post by youmadethatup on May 29, 2016 18:06:31 GMT
Comments about how much money splashes around the championship is scary. OK for the season you get there, frightening if you go down after a couple of years or so. You can see why Wael and Hammer are always on about being sustainable and an evolutionary process. It is scary. Thing is to be sustainable in the Championship season after season we would need to grow 10 times as big I would imagine. That is what our new owners seem to want, to grow bit by bit and become sustainable after each step. I like a man with a realistic plan! Having seen Bournemouth do it then we can. Bournemouth did it after 2 seasons and with much of the team that was in League 1. They added Calum Wilson and Yann Kermogan (a very good player, but a journeyman) which made a bit of a difference!! But not much else and similarities are obvious. Eddie H added a few players each season to a very close and capable squad. Those that remained just got better and better. But I'm not imagining we could do it that would be silly. Teams don't get promotion 2 years on the trot with a last minute goal to do the second promo. It doesn't happen! UTG! They did go £15m in debt in one season I recall on their journey
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 29, 2016 19:43:09 GMT
Bloke on the radio just said the football industry in Britain is bigger than the steel industry.
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