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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 12, 2016 5:53:56 GMT
I'm advised that SH has let it be known that it not appropriate for Radio Bristol and Evening Post from asking questions about UWE. if this is true some of my concerns about Hamer are coming true. Another sleazy politician who doesn't want to be put on the spot with awkward questions. Censoring the media serves to only put the UWE out of site out of mind. Maybe there is just no new news as negotiations are still ongoing so it would be unprofessional to talk about it? Not long ago apparently we we about to here so news we "want to hear" yet it turned into a damp squib.
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Post by Gasshole on Jul 12, 2016 6:11:48 GMT
No news is good news . Right.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 12, 2016 6:27:59 GMT
I think (hope) Hamer has banned the questioning because he's sick of answering with his stock answer of negotiations being in place etc etc landing gear down etc without actually having anything to say - which leads to criticism from fans. Also he got turned over a little bit by the EP with the last press release. It's a bit like Higgs with the negotiations to sell the club to the Al Qadi's A bit like Higgs? Nick Higgs lied about being in negotiations to sell up. I hope SH isn't lying to us as well.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 6:49:49 GMT
When Wael and his family "acquired" the club he did state very early on that conditions have to be right before Stadium construction is started and that included a look at the design of the complex. Clearly that design is not fit for purpose now so have been looking at other complex's to see what is working and what not is working. THESE TASKS ARE STILL GOING ON ! (visit to the sh** tip this week) No new designs have been submitted for planning approval or amendments to existing plans Until they get some idea from the UWE about what is available to us we cannot design a stadium to fit If we submitted designs TODAY it will still be 3 years before we can move in (2 years to build + wait until start of a new season) We just have to wait and see what the next steps are ! If No agreement can be found with the UWE, I'm Sure South Glos have plenty of Industrial Lane available for future developments We just have to sit tight and wait for things to progress. We have a Stadium at the moment which we own and can use for the current status of the club. if by chance we get promoted again then things may need to be addressed again
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 12, 2016 7:24:20 GMT
Pretty sure SH or Wael suggested they would be no major changes to the plans which would require seeking further planning permission, plus it's a 62 week build so we're probably 2 years away from the new stadium being finished, assuming we can come to some agreement with the UWE this summer & can still finance it post Brexit. If we can't and now have to find a new site/stadiumplans we could be 5 or more years away whihc doesn't bare thinking about,.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 7:40:02 GMT
Pretty sure SH or Wael suggested they would be no major changes to the plans which would require seeking further planning permission, plus it's a 62 week build so we're probably 2 years away from the new stadium being finished, assuming we can come to some agreement with the UWE this summer & can still finance it post Brexit. If we can't and now have to find a new site/stadiumplans we could be 5 or more years away whihc doesn't bare thinking about,. it was never a 62 week build that was another Nick Higgs "exaggeration"
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Post by oldgas on Jul 12, 2016 8:54:58 GMT
When Wael and his family "acquired" the club he did state very early on that conditions have to be right before Stadium construction is started and that included a look at the design of the complex. Clearly that design is not fit for purpose now so have been looking at other complex's to see what is working and what not is working. THESE TASKS ARE STILL GOING ON ! (visit to the sh** tip this week) No new designs have been submitted for planning approval or amendments to existing plans Until they get some idea from the UWE about what is available to us we cannot design a stadium to fit If we submitted designs TODAY it will still be 3 years before we can move in (2 years to build + wait until start of a new season) We just have to wait and see what the next steps are ! If No agreement can be found with the UWE, I'm Sure South Glos have plenty of Industrial Lane available for future developments We just have to sit tight and wait for things to progress. We have a Stadium at the moment which we own and can use for the current status of the club. if by chance we get promoted again then things may need to be addressed again Aaaah Henbury. An enigma wrapped in a riddle, as someone once said!.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 9:17:13 GMT
When Wael and his family "acquired" the club he did state very early on that conditions have to be right before Stadium construction is started and that included a look at the design of the complex. Clearly that design is not fit for purpose now so have been looking at other complex's to see what is working and what not is working. THESE TASKS ARE STILL GOING ON ! (visit to the sh** tip this week) No new designs have been submitted for planning approval or amendments to existing plans Until they get some idea from the UWE about what is available to us we cannot design a stadium to fit If we submitted designs TODAY it will still be 3 years before we can move in (2 years to build + wait until start of a new season) We just have to wait and see what the next steps are ! If No agreement can be found with the UWE, I'm Sure South Glos have plenty of Industrial Lane available for future developments We just have to sit tight and wait for things to progress. We have a Stadium at the moment which we own and can use for the current status of the club. if by chance we get promoted again then things may need to be addressed again Aaaah Henbury. An enigma wrapped in a riddle, as someone once said!. Captain James T Kirk i believe
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 12, 2016 10:53:25 GMT
Pretty sure SH or Wael suggested they would be no major changes to the plans which would require seeking further planning permission, plus it's a 62 week build so we're probably 2 years away from the new stadium being finished, assuming we can come to some agreement with the UWE this summer & can still finance it post Brexit. If we can't and now have to find a new site/stadiumplans we could be 5 or more years away whihc doesn't bare thinking about,. it was never a 62 week build that was another Nick Higgs "exaggeration" With his contruction background you'd have thought he'd at least get that bit right! I wonder how long other similar grounds have taken to contruct, having said that how would care how long it took if work ever actually started this decade?
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Post by baggins on Jul 12, 2016 11:15:31 GMT
When Wael and his family "acquired" the club he did state very early on that conditions have to be right before Stadium construction is started and that included a look at the design of the complex. Clearly that design is not fit for purpose now so have been looking at other complex's to see what is working and what not is working. THESE TASKS ARE STILL GOING ON ! (visit to the sh** tip this week) No new designs have been submitted for planning approval or amendments to existing plans Until they get some idea from the UWE about what is available to us we cannot design a stadium to fit If we submitted designs TODAY it will still be 3 years before we can move in (2 years to build + wait until start of a new season) We just have to wait and see what the next steps are ! If No agreement can be found with the UWE, I'm Sure South Glos have plenty of Industrial Lane available for future developments We just have to sit tight and wait for things to progress. We have a Stadium at the moment which we own and can use for the current status of the club. if by chance we get promoted again then things may need to be addressed again Aaaah Henbury. An enigma wrapped in a riddle, as someone once said!. A quote from the film JFK perhaps?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 12, 2016 12:11:30 GMT
Aaaah Henbury. An enigma wrapped in a riddle, as someone once said!. A quote from the film JFK perhaps? Maybe he said it in the missing frames from the Zapruder tapes.
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Post by baggins on Jul 12, 2016 12:17:29 GMT
A quote from the film JFK perhaps? Maybe he said it in the missing frames from the Zapruder tapes. Back and to the left.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 12, 2016 12:41:34 GMT
Maybe he said it in the missing frames from the Zapruder tapes. Back and to the left. "How do you know who your daddy is? Because your momma tells you so."
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 12, 2016 12:45:10 GMT
Pretty sure SH or Wael suggested they would be no major changes to the plans which would require seeking further planning permission, plus it's a 62 week build so we're probably 2 years away from the new stadium being finished, assuming we can come to some agreement with the UWE this summer & can still finance it post Brexit. If we can't and now have to find a new site/stadiumplans we could be 5 or more years away whihc doesn't bare thinking about,. it was never a 62 week build that was another Nick Higgs "exaggeration" Out of interest, what do you (or your planning contact) think is realistic?
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Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2016 13:03:45 GMT
MK Dons and Swansea took around 2 and a bit years each, although the UWE might be slightly simpler being built into a natural bowl.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 13:05:09 GMT
it was never a 62 week build that was another Nick Higgs "exaggeration" Out of interest, what do you (or your planning contact) think is realistic? without an accelerated build ( ie chuck money at it) most capital projects take 18-24 from start to hand over
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 12, 2016 13:13:48 GMT
Out of interest, what do you (or your planning contact) think is realistic? without an accelerated build ( ie chuck money at it) most capital projects take 18-24 from start to hand over I take it, that's months ?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 13:25:10 GMT
without an accelerated build ( ie chuck money at it) most capital projects take 18-24 from start to hand over I take it, that's months ? Lunar Months, that is correct
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 12, 2016 13:36:17 GMT
Out of interest, what do you (or your planning contact) think is realistic? without an accelerated build ( ie chuck money at it) most capital projects take 18-24 from start to hand over Thanks. So to be ready for August 2018 (2 seasons away from now) we have a start window of between a few weeks and 6 months, otherwise we will miss the 2018/19 season. I wonder if we could prioritise sections so we are ready and complete ancillary parts (offices, shops, seating over an agreed number, etc) during the season or if it has to be fully completed for sign off.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 12, 2016 13:41:45 GMT
without an accelerated build ( ie chuck money at it) most capital projects take 18-24 from start to hand over Thanks. So to be ready for August 2018 (2 seasons away from now) we have a start window of between a few weeks and 6 months, otherwise we will miss the 2018/19 season. I wonder if we could prioritise sections so we are ready and complete ancillary parts (offices, shops, seating over an agreed number, etc) during the season or if it has to be fully completed for sign off. i think a part build is possible (Like the sh** did) but the H & S issues would be fun to figure out
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