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Post by faggotygas on Aug 17, 2016 14:19:55 GMT
I really hope that I am totally misinterpreting what you have said in regards to people with anxiety, stress and depression when you say "getting on with it". Can you explain what you mean by this? Don't think you have no. Very simple where people are willing to hold your hand & tell you everything is ok then people will play up to it. As I said in less developed countries, you know ones with real problems like where to get money for your next meal, yep they just get on with life sometimes with a smile, sometimes without a smile. But for them there is no luxury of time if they don't help themselves no-one else will & incredibly the vast majority live without all the help offered to people here with depression, stress (oh how I laugh at that one) & anxieties. Though having said that I suspect this is one of those debates on here that your only allowed an opinion on if you agree with the crowd. No depression in developing countries?
International suicide rates
1. Guyana 2. North Korea ..
5.Sri Lanka 6. Suriname 7. Mozambique 8. Nepal 9. Kazakhstan 10. Tanzania ...
103 UK
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 17, 2016 14:54:39 GMT
Don't think you have no. Very simple where people are willing to hold your hand & tell you everything is ok then people will play up to it. As I said in less developed countries, you know ones with real problems like where to get money for your next meal, yep they just get on with life sometimes with a smile, sometimes without a smile. But for them there is no luxury of time if they don't help themselves no-one else will & incredibly the vast majority live without all the help offered to people here with depression, stress (oh how I laugh at that one) & anxieties. Though having said that I suspect this is one of those debates on here that your only allowed an opinion on if you agree with the crowd. No depression in developing countries?
International suicide rates
1. Guyana 2. North Korea ..
5.Sri Lanka 6. Suriname 7. Mozambique 8. Nepal 9. Kazakhstan 10. Tanzania ...
103 UK
You can prove anything with facts.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 17, 2016 16:18:51 GMT
Don't think you have no. Very simple where people are willing to hold your hand & tell you everything is ok then people will play up to it. As I said in less developed countries, you know ones with real problems like where to get money for your next meal, yep they just get on with life sometimes with a smile, sometimes without a smile. But for them there is no luxury of time if they don't help themselves no-one else will & incredibly the vast majority live without all the help offered to people here with depression, stress (oh how I laugh at that one) & anxieties. Though having said that I suspect this is one of those debates on here that your only allowed an opinion on if you agree with the crowd. No depression in developing countries?
International suicide rates
1. Guyana 2. North Korea ..
5.Sri Lanka 6. Suriname 7. Mozambique 8. Nepal 9. Kazakhstan 10. Tanzania ...
103 UK
Interesting table see Haiti down (or I suppose it should be up) at 153. Yes Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere probably the sort of country that would provide plenty of reasons to be depressed or stressed and what with the chance of a huge earthquake probably a place you could develop an anxiety or two, but I guess that table just shows that they get on with life there.
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Post by pirateman on Aug 17, 2016 17:09:48 GMT
No depression in developing countries?
International suicide rates
1. Guyana 2. North Korea ..
5.Sri Lanka 6. Suriname 7. Mozambique 8. Nepal 9. Kazakhstan 10. Tanzania ...
103 UK
Interesting table see Haiti down (or I suppose it should be up) at 153. Yes Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere probably the sort of country that would provide plenty of reasons to be depressed or stressed and what with the chance of a huge earthquake probably a place you could develop an anxiety or two, but I guess that table just shows that they get on with life there. You don't need to commit suicide in Haiti. You just wait.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 18, 2016 13:35:31 GMT
No depression in developing countries?
International suicide rates
1. Guyana 2. North Korea ..
5.Sri Lanka 6. Suriname 7. Mozambique 8. Nepal 9. Kazakhstan 10. Tanzania ...
103 UK
Interesting table see Haiti down (or I suppose it should be up) at 153. Yes Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere probably the sort of country that would provide plenty of reasons to be depressed or stressed and what with the chance of a huge earthquake probably a place you could develop an anxiety or two, but I guess that table just shows that they get on with life there. You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 18, 2016 16:07:00 GMT
Interesting table see Haiti down (or I suppose it should be up) at 153. Yes Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere probably the sort of country that would provide plenty of reasons to be depressed or stressed and what with the chance of a huge earthquake probably a place you could develop an anxiety or two, but I guess that table just shows that they get on with life there. You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
I wouldn't waste your time in replying to his / her posts to be honest,as his / her views on mental illness are shallow , uneducated , and down right insensitive bordering on sounding like a wum.
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Post by bs9trymer on Aug 18, 2016 17:01:47 GMT
You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
I wouldn't waste your time in replying to his / her posts to be honest,as his / her views on mental illness are shallow , uneducated , and down right insensitive bordering on sounding like a wum. I agree,I think maybe they watched Dr George Whitebread group therapy and based their opinions on it.
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Post by jaunkerr on Aug 18, 2016 17:29:54 GMT
You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
I wouldn't waste your time in replying to his / her posts to be honest,as his / her views on mental illness are shallow , uneducated , and down right insensitive bordering on sounding like a wum. I read both main forums and this guy seems to enjoy upsetting people or just arguing for the hell of it
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Post by bluegas on Aug 18, 2016 17:44:25 GMT
Any chance we could get back to football & BRFC?
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 18, 2016 18:11:21 GMT
Any chance we could get back to football & BRFC? Of course what would you like to discuss ?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 18, 2016 19:15:05 GMT
Any chance we could get back to football & BRFC? More chance of talking about Emmerdale I'd imagine
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 18, 2016 19:19:33 GMT
Any chance we could get back to football & BRFC? More chance of talking about Emmerdale I'd imagine are you this lippy face to face ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 18, 2016 19:28:24 GMT
Any chance we could get back to football & BRFC? There are plenty of threads or you could start one of your own. This one has at least been interesting and meaningful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 20:01:20 GMT
I have started a Mental Health related discussion over in General Chat
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2016 20:08:26 GMT
I have started a Mental Health related discussion over in General ChatOh yeah? Over in namby pamby, floopy doopy, general chat eh? You don't see mental health discussions on hard-nosed forum boards with REAL problems like PASOTI do you? Exactly!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 18, 2016 20:11:46 GMT
I have started a Mental Health related discussion over in General ChatOh yeah? Over in namby pamby, floopy doopy, general chat eh? You don't see mental health discussions on hard-nosed forum boards with REAL problems like PASOTI do you? Exactly! Get a grip and buck your ideas up.
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Post by althepirate on Aug 18, 2016 20:59:15 GMT
Interesting table see Haiti down (or I suppose it should be up) at 153. Yes Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere probably the sort of country that would provide plenty of reasons to be depressed or stressed and what with the chance of a huge earthquake probably a place you could develop an anxiety or two, but I guess that table just shows that they get on with life there. You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
Brilliant post.People don't agree with you CGH because you are totally wrong and misguided. Those who suffer with mental health issues DO GET ON WITH IT. Churchill got on with it winning the war, but he still had depression because GETTING ON WITH IT DOESNT CURE DEPRESSION. I find CGH's remarks such as 'It's very simple' and a 'nanny state offensive and stupid. I find it totally laughable how he thinks he can go to another country and know that people aren't depressed. It's a fact that mental illness isn't to do with the outside world but the inside world. So his remarks about nearby earthquakes and imminent dangers shows how little he knows about mental health as it has no connection with this. He does remind of the saying, 'Some people want to save the world, but they couldn't care less about the bloke next door' I think CGH you should apologise for your stupid remarks, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH OR WEAK?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 19, 2016 7:07:42 GMT
You're just picking outliers with small sample sizes (populations) and ignoring the rest. Look at that top 10.
There's what looks like a more recent table on Wikipedia. That shows that an average person is more than 7 time more likely to commit suicide in Guyana than the UK. 4 times more likely in Suriname, Mozambique, Tanzania or Nepal.
You're talking bunkum.
Were all these people weak-willed, mollycoddled no-marks as you suggest: Abraham Lincoln, Tennessee Williams, Samuel Johnson, Sir Winston Churchill, John Stewart Mill, Buzz Aldrin, Marlon Brando, Frank Bruno, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens, Graham Greene, Tony Hancock, Earnest Hemmingway, Frankie Howerd, John Lennon, Spike Milligan, Mozart, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Isaac Newton, John D. Rockefeller, Bruce Springsteen, Leo Tolostoy, Marcus Trescothick, Mike Tyson, Boris Yeltsin?
From 'How the other half dies', a study on the causes of death in the developing world:
"...all the major psychiatric problems of the developed countries - the depressive disorders, the anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, suicide, and substance abuse - seem to be prevalent in the developing world."
"...Alcohol abuse appears to be on the rise throughout the developing world. In addition to alcohol, certain countries have specific substance abuse problems - cannabis in Nigeria, heroin in Pakistan, toxic inhalant abuse among children and adolescents in Mexico and Brazil."
Depression is not voluntary. You do not choose depression, anyone can suffer from it, and it certainly is not a judgement on a person's character.
Brilliant post.People don't agree with you CGH because you are totally wrong and misguided. Those who suffer with mental health issues DO GET ON WITH IT. Churchill got on with it winning the war, but he still had depression because GETTING ON WITH IT DOESNT CURE DEPRESSION. I find CGH's remarks such as 'It's very simple' and a 'nanny state offensive and stupid. I find it totally laughable how he thinks he can go to another country and know that people aren't depressed. It's a fact that mental illness isn't to do with the outside world but the inside world. So his remarks about nearby earthquakes and imminent dangers shows how little he knows about mental health as it has no connection with this. He does remind of the saying, 'Some people want to save the world, but they couldn't care less about the bloke next door' I think CGH you should apologise for your stupid remarks, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH OR WEAK? Sorry apologise for thinking that the health & welfare systems would be better able to help those who really need help if they weren't clogged up with malingerers and frauds? Well if others are happy with that situation then don't complain about a lack of funding. We live in a country that has everything people need to live a good & happy life, plenty of others live in countries where it is a struggle to even get the very basics of life, like clean water, so I'll apologies if it offends people that I think they have a lot more cause to be depressed or stressed than people living in our nanny state (perfectly illustrated by yesterday's debate over an obesity strategy). Still I did call it correct that you can't have an opinion on the subject unless you agree with the herd.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 19, 2016 7:42:44 GMT
Brilliant post.People don't agree with you CGH because you are totally wrong and misguided. Those who suffer with mental health issues DO GET ON WITH IT. Churchill got on with it winning the war, but he still had depression because GETTING ON WITH IT DOESNT CURE DEPRESSION. I find CGH's remarks such as 'It's very simple' and a 'nanny state offensive and stupid. I find it totally laughable how he thinks he can go to another country and know that people aren't depressed. It's a fact that mental illness isn't to do with the outside world but the inside world. So his remarks about nearby earthquakes and imminent dangers shows how little he knows about mental health as it has no connection with this. He does remind of the saying, 'Some people want to save the world, but they couldn't care less about the bloke next door' I think CGH you should apologise for your stupid remarks, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH OR WEAK? Sorry apologise for thinking that the health & welfare systems would be better able to help those who really need help if they weren't clogged up with malingerers and frauds? Well if others are happy with that situation then don't complain about a lack of funding. We live in a country that has everything people need to live a good & happy life, plenty of others live in countries where it is a struggle to even get the very basics of life, like clean water, so I'll apologies if it offends people that I think they have a lot more cause to be depressed or stressed than people living in our nanny state (perfectly illustrated by yesterday's debate over an obesity strategy). Still I did call it correct that you can't have an opinion on the subject unless you agree with the herd. The problem isn't that you cannot have an opinion, more that yours doesn't appear to be based on any real knowledge or experience and is therefore being challenged. If you state an opinion and 99% of people tell you your wrong that may not mean you are being subjugated by the herd, it may mean that you need to educate yourself or try to understand why so many people disagree with you. Having stuff has absolutely no effect on depression. None whatsoever.
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Post by LJG on Aug 19, 2016 7:44:05 GMT
Brilliant post.People don't agree with you CGH because you are totally wrong and misguided. Those who suffer with mental health issues DO GET ON WITH IT. Churchill got on with it winning the war, but he still had depression because GETTING ON WITH IT DOESNT CURE DEPRESSION. I find CGH's remarks such as 'It's very simple' and a 'nanny state offensive and stupid. I find it totally laughable how he thinks he can go to another country and know that people aren't depressed. It's a fact that mental illness isn't to do with the outside world but the inside world. So his remarks about nearby earthquakes and imminent dangers shows how little he knows about mental health as it has no connection with this. He does remind of the saying, 'Some people want to save the world, but they couldn't care less about the bloke next door' I think CGH you should apologise for your stupid remarks, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH OR WEAK? Sorry apologise for thinking that the health & welfare systems would be better able to help those who really need help if they weren't clogged up with malingerers and frauds? Well if others are happy with that situation then don't complain about a lack of funding. We live in a country that has everything people need to live a good & happy life, plenty of others live in countries where it is a struggle to even get the very basics of life, like clean water, so I'll apologies if it offends people that I think they have a lot more cause to be depressed or stressed than people living in our nanny state (perfectly illustrated by yesterday's debate over an obesity strategy). Still I did call it correct that you can't have an opinion on the subject unless you agree with the herd. The thing is, as with football, I tend to think that the people whose job it is to know something will know more about that thing than I do. So for example I might think DC made a mistake changing the starting 11 on Tuesday but hey ... which one of us manages a LG 1 club? For me it's the same with medicine and that includes mental health. Doctors, researchers, psychologists and psychiatrists all over the world including the countries you've named think the opposite to you. They think that based on decades of scientific research and experience. So, you might think differently but hey ... which one of you and them is best placed to make that call? So the medical profession the world over have followed the herd. The head of the herd in this case, of course, is scientific fact and not just what some bloke on a football forum reckons.
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