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Post by mjhgas on Oct 27, 2016 10:36:10 GMT
The biggest problem won't be with fans supporting one of their own players, it will be when the opposition have an openly gay player who has just scored a last minute winner in front of the Thatchers End! If you were that player, why would you put yourself and your family through the abuse that would undoubtedly follow? Just a thought! Personally, couldn't give a hoot who scores for us or against us (unless they play for City!), but if you are going to hurl abuse at any individual footballer there will be a time when you are asked to leave the ground - most probably when we reach the Premier League  |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:37:35 GMT
Back to the original post - I'd be surprised if any of the Rovers fans boycotted games if we had a gay player - what would that achieve? We already had/have some fans who have boycotted games because "they didn't/don't like the board" and what effect did that have - none, other than some smug people on the forums flashing their boycott credentials like it mattered. Given a choice between a gay player and a non-tryer (no names mentioned but we all know some from 3 - 4 seasons back?) I'd prefer the gay player any day - by prefer, I mean prefer that player in my team - I have no non-tryer or Gay inclinations! So my response to the actual post is "no, I don't think there would be any boycott". What you mean the tool wasn't gay , im shocked to the core As for your comment on smug people i admire people who have the strength of character to do what they say and stay away until things change, it might not change the club or anything else but what it does do is allow them to be themselves without pandering to public opinion |
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Post by wiaww on Oct 27, 2016 10:41:18 GMT
The gayest thing a man can do is worry about what another bloke is doing with his c*ck...
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:50:22 GMT
Nah this is just the type of discussion we need as we all have differing opinions on what is acceptable to us. I was interested in your earlier reply and was thinking if you openly expressed your feelings at work you would be technically hung drawn and quartered, however if a colleague said they disliked you because you were hetro then almost nothing would be said You're talking nonsense. Spouting a rhetoric that supports your prejudices. If a colleague was discriminatory towards you based on your heterosexuality and you reported it and your employer didn't investigate they would be breaking the law. No i'm talking of events that happened, i could fire back that you seem to be one of those who has pandered to popular opinions. I couldn't possibly state on this forum some of the injustice i have seen due to diversity(i'm willing to talk face to face, no threat intended but some things can only be said face to face allegedly as it then become he said /i said in the eyes of the law) . One i can openly state is one of my neighbours on the opposite side of the road is like a sister to me and wend. Had the filth here a while back and she said i'm off now i'm outnumbered by you whiteys, i then said yeah go on sis feck of back to your own side of the road run away like usual, i was then told that if i continued i would be reported for a hate crime, sis went apeshit with the copper, who didn't like being told that she was singling my sis out for not being white The other thing is if someone at work called me a deaf/dumb and stupid white lady garden, i would find it amusing and not think oh i have to run off and report it. As an aside if you genuinely went in and said oh so and so called me a hetro dickhead your boss would probably say ok i will have a word about you being called a dickhead. |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:53:26 GMT
I think it's the minorities (extremists) on the left and right in society that cause the trouble. The rank and file of all faiths and all sexual orientation just live and let live. A friend said her husband had a letter from the management at work to say that they must not wish anyone a 'Happy Christmas'because it would upset the Muslims working there. Instead they should say 'Happy Holidays' When the Muslims saw the letter they were enraged and told the management they didnt want this and wanted Christians to express themselves about Christmas and were happy to be included in the celebrations. Like Ede is an open house to all faiths, the coming together of a joyous occasion. The real enemy here is the ideological minorities who seek to lobby Parliament for their own selfish ends which sadly sells newpaper's as it's drama. The saddest is those that follow them. Exactly it should be up to the individual as to whether or not they want to reveal parts of their private lives to everyone, Can you remember that blithering idiot think his name was thatchell who just because he was gay decided to out as many gay celebrities / politicians he could |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:54:10 GMT
The gayest thing a man can do is worry about what another bloke is doing with his c*ck... Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:57:01 GMT
If there is anyone I'll ban them Why not give them a little badge and bus them off to camps, how dare they hold different beliefs - BAN THEM - Nazis! Sorry to say the nsdap was disbanded in the 50's or 60's and no longer exist as an organisation, however don't forget the left as one country still bans gays from sport etc. The only difference betwixt the extreme right/left is that one tries to hide under the banner of sharing |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 11:06:26 GMT
The gayest thing a man can do is worry about what another bloke is doing with his c*ck... Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's What about a bloke who puts a nice comfy warm blanket over his legs, while sat in the South Stand, to watch the Rovers play? |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 11:08:27 GMT
Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's What about a bloke who puts a nice comfy warm blanket over his legs, while sat in the South Stand, to watch the Rovers play? As long as he doesn't have a pink shirt with DM's on tis fine  |
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Post by wiaww on Oct 27, 2016 11:11:43 GMT
You're talking nonsense. Spouting a rhetoric that supports your prejudices. If a colleague was discriminatory towards you based on your heterosexuality and you reported it and your employer didn't investigate they would be breaking the law. No i'm talking of events that happened, i could fire back that you seem to be one of those who has pandered to popular opinions. I couldn't possibly state on this forum some of the injustice i have seen due to diversity(i'm willing to talk face to face, no threat intended but some things can only be said face to face allegedly as it then become he said /i said in the eyes of the law) . One i can openly state is one of my neighbours on the opposite side of the road is like a sister to me and wend. Had the filth here a while back and she said i'm off now i'm outnumbered by you whiteys, i then said yeah go on sis feck of back to your own side of the road run away like usual, i was then told that if i continued i would be reported for a hate crime, sis went apeshit with the copper, who didn't like being told that she was singling my sis out for not being white The other thing is if someone at work called me a deaf/dumb and stupid white Lady garden, i would find it amusing and not think oh i have to run off and report it. As an aside if you genuinely went in and said oh so and so called me a hetro dickhead your boss would probably say ok i will have a word about you being called a dickhead. The popularity of an opinion doesn’t have a bearing on its validity. Nor does injustice invalidate other injustice. I don’t know what “events” have happened in your life but I don’t see how any of them can justify your awful attitude toward homosexuality. You’ve taken this thread and used it as a platform for your views against “political correctness” and somehow justify your homophobia as “free speech”. Do you believe it is acceptable to judge based on the colour of an individual’s skin, or hair, or eyes? Homosexuality is no more a choice than melanin levels are. As an aside, if you genuinely went in and said "oh so-and-so called me a hetero' dickhead" your boss would be legally obliged to investigate possible discrimination based on sexual orientation. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 27, 2016 11:24:46 GMT
Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's What about a bloke who puts a nice comfy warm blanket over his legs, while sat in the South Stand, to watch the Rovers play? Stop oppressing me. |
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Post by William Wilson on Oct 27, 2016 11:33:15 GMT
What about a bloke who puts a nice comfy warm blanket over his legs, while sat in the South Stand, to watch the Rovers play? Stop oppressing me. Yes, Nobby, stop pressing against him. |
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Post by William Wilson on Oct 27, 2016 11:38:27 GMT
IT wouldn't bother me one little bit if we had an openly gay player. I wouldn't be surprised to learn we do have a gay player anyway, as according to stats, with the number of male employees at the club there is a significant chance there will be at least one gay person. Got to admit, I`d be a bit surprised. None of them look gay to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 11:45:05 GMT
IT wouldn't bother me one little bit if we had an openly gay player. I wouldn't be surprised to learn we do have a gay player anyway, as according to stats, with the number of male employees at the club there is a significant chance there will be at least one gay person. Got to admit, I`d be a bit surprised. None of them look gay to me. Ah, but you need to wise up William. You've obviously led a sheltered life. There is one easy method to use.........and that is........Look for the Left Footers. It's always a dead givaway. |
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 11:48:15 GMT
Are you one of those who believe in free speech as long as it fits in with your own beliefs and opinions.
I fully believe in an individuals right to like or dislike who or what they want,and will always support that as i will support the rights of other to speak out about it.
If you have every looked at my posts on this bollocks people spout about skin colour, i will always maintain that the only race that exists on this earth is the human race, i also openly state that it's only the politically correct/sheep/or so called anti-racist that actually define a person based on colour. The rest of us just see another person after all we are the same.
As for this no choice sh**e, people choose who they are attracted to as i said before a lot of gays try out women first so supposing you are right in your assumption that it's not a choice, why do they choose to try a woman first as surely to support your view they would be genetically programmed to go one way and one way only, and would not use the old adage of oh i didnt want to come out or i wasn't sure, it's simply a matter of they prefer the feel of one sex over another simple as.
where on this thread have i been anti gay,i hate my gay nephew with a vengeance however his boyfriend i get on well with so how is that any different from hating someone else who is straight or as you put it a different colour , the real issue is people would pick up on the fact that my nephew is gay and would start spouting the homophobic bollocks or your a racist bollocks based on their own inherent bandwagon jumping, not realising that a lady garden is a lady garden and im entitled to hate who i want when i want.
Remember the phobia this and phobia that is a recent invention to put down those who disagree with others and to keep freethinkers in their place, do you honestly believe in suppressing free speech just in case someone doesn't like what someone else says, if so you are just carrying on bLairs dirt work.
Again if someone went to their boss and said i was called a hetro dickhead, then the only thing offensive is that you were called a dickhead(unless of course you weren't hetro), besides if others are that worried about saying something that maybe something(aphobic) to others then they must live a life full of worry
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 27, 2016 12:12:45 GMT
IT wouldn't bother me one little bit if we had an openly gay player. I wouldn't be surprised to learn we do have a gay player anyway, as according to stats, with the number of male employees at the club there is a significant chance there will be at least one gay person. I think you are strongly misunderstanding statistics. I've heard it quoted as 1 in 10 or even 1 in 8 are gay, now in the best case scenario this comes from the National Census and worse case it comes from a lot smaller survey that is then extrapolated to cover the whole population (hopefully this would've been caveated with margin of errors). Which ever figure you use is then being employed against a very small group of players, let's say there are 100 professional football clubs employing 30 professional footballers each giving 3000 or say 5000 to allow for greater numbers at the premiership clubs now you look at the total population for England & Wales what about 60 million (?) ie professional footballers represent approximately 0.008% of the population. Statistically that would I guess be far to small a population to apply a %age derived from a population of 60 million against ie statistically there is probably no great likelihood of any gay footballers (which isn't saying there definately isn't any). Then you would have to look at the profession you are applying those statistics against. To put the misuse of statistics into a very easily understood scenario. If you looked at the number of muslims in the UK, I don't know the exact figure but for arguments sake lets say its 5% or 1 in 20. Now if I then applied that statistics to the population that go to church every Sunday then it's obvious that 1 in 20 won't be muslim, equally I couldn't apply that statistic to the population that go to a mosque every week & say only 1 in 20 of you can be muslim. Of course the misuse of statistics does make very easy headlines. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 27, 2016 12:18:00 GMT
In answer to the OP I wouldn't care so long as they turned up looking smart for their signing photos.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 27, 2016 12:21:12 GMT
The gayest thing a man can do is worry about what another bloke is doing with his c*ck... Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's Recent Photo of a footballers night out.... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 12:22:18 GMT
Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's Recent Photo of a footballers night out.... Is that a selfie? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 27, 2016 12:24:23 GMT
Nah the gayest thing a man can do is wear a pink shirt with DM's Recent Photo of a footballers night out.... Those shoes are going to rub without an insole. |
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