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Post by syg on Oct 27, 2016 8:41:05 GMT
What a response!
The world of Pol Cor ness seems to have repressed a lot of people, and all of a sudden this year, i think a brexit/trump release valve, people suddenly feel easier saying things that maybe they wouldnt have before. at least thats my reading of it.
I dont care at all about a persons sxutly, i just want them to be nice.
I find the idea of someone not coming to a Rovers match because a player had come out out, really odd.
If there are any players reading...
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Post by orgasmic on Oct 27, 2016 8:42:57 GMT
What an absolute sh!tfest! For the record I don't care who or what anybody finds sexually attractive. I have better things to do. Sadly this topic in general has become a media circus for something totally irrelevant but that's the modern world for you. Whilst I understand people who might find the idea of homosexuality uncomfortable or strange, the idea that people still think it's unnatural or immoral and would stop supporting Rovers if they had a gay player blows my mind. For those that believe it's unnatural - why do all men have a g spot in their arse? Reproduction isn't the only reason to exist or we'd all die once we could no longer reproduce. For those worried about AIDS - It isn't the most common STI and you are unlikely to contract it without swapping bodily fluids so try to remain calm. For those who think being gay is a choice - How do you know? Is the story that people are born gay a huge lie that all gay men have told for centuries just to legitimise their sexual preference? The whole subject to me is utterly bemusing. I'm not even sure I should get to have an opinion on someone else's sexual preference as surely it's not my business but there you go! Are you telling me, that after 44 years of trying to find a G Spot on any woman, that in fact, I've got my very own G Spot in my arse ! Can you imagine how deflated I am feeling right now? All those wasted years. I am indeed...think of it as an opportunity for the future rather than time wasted!
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Post by althepirate on Oct 27, 2016 8:46:02 GMT
I think it's the minorities (extremists) on the left and right in society that cause the trouble. The rank and file of all faiths and all sexual orientation just live and let live. A friend said her husband had a letter from the management at work to say that they must not wish anyone a 'Happy Christmas'because it would upset the Muslims working there. Instead they should say 'Happy Holidays' When the Muslims saw the letter they were enraged and told the management they didnt want this and wanted Christians to express themselves about Christmas and were happy to be included in the celebrations. Like Ede is an open house to all faiths, the coming together of a joyous occasion. The real enemy here is the ideological minorities who seek to lobby Parliament for their own selfish ends which sadly sells newpaper's as it's drama. The saddest is those that follow them.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 27, 2016 9:13:50 GMT
What an absolute sh!tfest! For the record I don't care who or what anybody finds sexually attractive. I have better things to do. Sadly this topic in general has become a media circus for something totally irrelevant but that's the modern world for you. Whilst I understand people who might find the idea of homosexuality uncomfortable or strange, the idea that people still think it's unnatural or immoral and would stop supporting Rovers if they had a gay player blows my mind. For those that believe it's unnatural - why do all men have a g spot in their arse? Reproduction isn't the only reason to exist or we'd all die once we could no longer reproduce. For those worried about AIDS - It isn't the most common STI and you are unlikely to contract it without swapping bodily fluids so try to remain calm. For those who think being gay is a choice - How do you know? Is the story that people are born gay a huge lie that all gay men have told for centuries just to legitimise their sexual preference? The whole subject to me is utterly bemusing. I'm not even sure I should get to have an opinion on someone else's sexual preference as surely it's not my business but there you go! Are you telling me, that after 44 years of trying to find a G Spot on any woman, that in fact, I've got my very own G Spot in my arse ! Can you imagine how deflated I am feeling right now? All those wasted years. Thats why Baggy has all those "male" vibrating devices available on his ebay shop
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 27, 2016 9:14:47 GMT
Oh the classic "a friend of a friend said Christmas is banned".
Dam hell, this forum.
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Post by Quartermaster on Oct 27, 2016 9:15:33 GMT
I think it's a bit sad in this day that people can't look at others life choices, understand that although those choices may not be the same as their own, have the intelligence to see that those choices hurt no one and, as a previous poster said, live and let live!
Why do we have to label others people's choices as right or wrong when they're none of our damn business?
(Except when that life choice is supporting city...I think we can all agree that's unnatural and just plain wrong!)
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Post by socrates on Oct 27, 2016 9:17:32 GMT
Wouldn't bother me at all. Where a bloke likes to put his knob has got nothing to do with football. If a Rovers player was gay he'd be just the same as any other Rovers player, a footballer. I've got mates who are gay it doesn't make them any more or any less a friend and people who get hung up on these things are stuck in the dark ages in my opinion.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2016 9:19:13 GMT
Oh the classic "a friend of a friend said Christmas is banned". f**king hell, this forum. And we were all just getting along fine until you said that, and caused divisions.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 27, 2016 9:20:30 GMT
Surely the biggest issue here is the allegedly gay footballers who are effectively being persecuted to come out? In the current climate whipped up by the likes of Chris Sutton, seeking to enhance his media career, why as a player would you come out whether you wanted to or not and put yourself at the centre of a media storm? Seems to me that it is going to make it less likely for anyone to come out in football.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2016 9:27:44 GMT
Surely the biggest issue here is the allegedly gay footballers who are effectively being persecuted to come out? In the current climate whipped up by the likes of Chris Sutton, seeking to enhance his media career, why as a player would you come out whether you wanted to or not and put yourself at the centre of a media storm? Seems to me that it is going to make it less likely for anyone to come out in football. Well, that's obviously not the biggest issue (although it is an issue, of course). The fundamental issue is that footballers don't feel comfortable being out in today's society. We don't get Player X photographed in the Daily Mail flaunting his hot HAB like we get Player Y photographed flaunting his hot WAG. It's not a level playing field, in that regard. Obviously.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 27, 2016 9:35:21 GMT
Surely the biggest issue here is the allegedly gay footballers who are effectively being persecuted to come out? In the current climate whipped up by the likes of Chris Sutton, seeking to enhance his media career, why as a player would you come out whether you wanted to or not and put yourself at the centre of a media storm? Seems to me that it is going to make it less likely for anyone to come out in football. Well, that's obviously not the biggest issue (although it is an issue, of course). The fundamental issue is that footballers don't feel comfortable being out in today's society. We don't get Player X photographed in the Daily Mail flaunting his hot HAB like we get Player Y photographed flaunting his hot WAG. It's not a level playing field, in that regard. Obviously. So all players out there are happy to be photographed in their private lives & flaunt it? And the second point is you think players would be more likely to come out after the Chris Sutton article? Of course it would be more of a level playing field if people like Chris Sutton didn't make such a big issue about it, but hey being gay is allegedly news (at least when you are trying to imrprove your media career).
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2016 9:53:59 GMT
Well, that's obviously not the biggest issue (although it is an issue, of course). The fundamental issue is that footballers don't feel comfortable being out in today's society. We don't get Player X photographed in the Daily Mail flaunting his hot HAB like we get Player Y photographed flaunting his hot WAG. It's not a level playing field, in that regard. Obviously. So all players out there are happy to be photographed in their private lives & flaunt it? And the second point is you think players would be more likely to come out after the Chris Sutton article? Of course it would be more of a level playing field if people like Chris Sutton didn't make such a big issue about it, but hey being gay is allegedly news (at least when you are trying to imrprove your media career). No, the Daily Mail eg was just an example of the differences in attitude to hetero- and homo- sexual relationships in society in general. It wasn't a suggestion that all players are happy to be in the papers, not sure where you got that from. And I agreed with you about the Chris Sutton issue. You can read that in my post. I was disagreeing with your idea that it was the biggest issue.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 27, 2016 9:58:18 GMT
If people are genuinely uncomfortable being around people who are gay then they have a lot of growing up to do.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 27, 2016 10:02:14 GMT
Hey this is all getting a little heavy; time to lighten up with some jokes. I'll start the ball rolling with......
Two condoms were walking past a gay bar. One turned to the other and said "Let's go in there and get sh**-faced!"
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 27, 2016 10:17:21 GMT
So all players out there are happy to be photographed in their private lives & flaunt it? And the second point is you think players would be more likely to come out after the Chris Sutton article? Of course it would be more of a level playing field if people like Chris Sutton didn't make such a big issue about it, but hey being gay is allegedly news (at least when you are trying to imrprove your media career). No, the Daily Mail eg was just an example of the differences in attitude to hetero- and homo- sexual relationships in society in general. It wasn't a suggestion that all players are happy to be in the papers, not sure where you got that from. And I agreed with you about the Chris Sutton issue. You can read that in my post. I was disagreeing with your idea that it was the biggest issue. I don't often read the Daily Mail but when I have I've not seen any players photgraphed with their WAGs or indeed just a girl / woman that had picked up for the night. Sure you aren't thinking about the Sun / Mirror / Star? As to the issue I guess it depends on whether you believe a gay player (if there are any) don't want to come out because the media are telling them that fans won't accept it or whether they won't come out because of the media reaction. I think the media have made it quite plain that they will be all over the next player who says they are gay, would I want that as a player personally no. It also comes down to whether any gay players consider it important to come out, I've always had the impression that amongst the gay community some are loud & where it almost as a badge of honour whilst most just want to quietly get on with life just like most heterosexual people do.
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:20:13 GMT
Oh the classic "a friend of a friend said Christmas is banned". f**king hell, this forum. Have you never had diversity training at an employer then, as believe it or not these things are actually said. We had a session saying to tone down xmas in case people of different faiths were offended, although i'm not religious i asked what about christians who are offended that they have to hide their religion whilst others were encouraged to show theirs, I also asked why at ramadan we were asked to not to bring food into the office, rather go off site to eat and why during diwali office staff were encouraged to dress brightly, i was told that it shows respect to differing religions, and also that christians were being narrow minded by forcing their beliefs on others. Interestingly at that session i asked those of other religions if it bothered them in the slightest and they said no, i was also told that if i continued to ask questions i would have to attend head office for more training and if it was felt i had issues then i would have to face disciplinary action. As an aside i then asked if they threaten all people with some form of disability like this and surprise surprise i got a letter saying no further action would be taken. This type of thing is just bandwagon jumping by uneducated idiots, who just make issues and divisions against those who already get on
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:24:08 GMT
Hey this is all getting a little heavy; time to lighten up with some jokes. I'll start the ball rolling with...... Two condoms were walking past a gay bar. One turned to the other and said "Let's go in there and get sh**-faced!" Nah this is just the type of discussion we need as we all have differing opinions on what is acceptable to us. I was interested in your earlier reply and was thinking if you openly expressed your feelings at work you would be technically hung drawn and quartered, however if a colleague said they disliked you because you were hetro then almost nothing would be said
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Post by inee on Oct 27, 2016 10:32:24 GMT
If people are genuinely uncomfortable being around people who are gay then they have a lot of growing up to do. Why do they have growing up to do, just because you believe it's ok, does that make you correct,does it make them wrong, I'm glad i can still have my opinions. The real problem is that the Corporate/governmental sheep_herders are gradually winning not just here but the world over,
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 27, 2016 10:33:08 GMT
Oh the classic "a friend of a friend said Christmas is banned". f**king hell, this forum. Have you never had diversity training at an employer then, as believe it or not these things are actually said. We had a session saying to tone down xmas in case people of different faiths were offended, although i'm not religious i asked what about christians who are offended that they have to hide their religion whilst others were encouraged to show theirs, I also asked why at ramadan we were asked to not to bring food into the office, rather go off site to eat and why during diwali office staff were encouraged to dress brightly, i was told that it shows respect to differing religions, and also that christians were being narrow minded by forcing their beliefs on others. Interestingly at that session i asked those of other religions if it bothered them in the slightest and they said no, i was also told that if i continued to ask questions i would have to attend head office for more training and if it was felt i had issues then i would have to face disciplinary action. As an aside i then asked if they threaten all people with some form of disability like this and surprise surprise i got a letter saying no further action would be taken. This type of thing is just bandwagon jumping by uneducated idiots, who just make issues and divisions against those who already get on You have to laugh at the Diversity & Inclusion agenda. Having recently worked for one of the UKs biggest banks when interviewing for a certain grade (& above) you had to have one interviewee who met the Diversity & Inclusion criteria in this bank the only people that didn't meet the criteria were white, heterosexual males and wash your mouth out if you ask why their diversity isn't included. Of course the way around this is just to list yourself as gay or bisexual when completing any internal monitoring forms.
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Post by wiaww on Oct 27, 2016 10:33:40 GMT
Hey this is all getting a little heavy; time to lighten up with some jokes. I'll start the ball rolling with...... Two condoms were walking past a gay bar. One turned to the other and said "Let's go in there and get sh**-faced!" Nah this is just the type of discussion we need as we all have differing opinions on what is acceptable to us. I was interested in your earlier reply and was thinking if you openly expressed your feelings at work you would be technically hung drawn and quartered, however if a colleague said they disliked you because you were hetro then almost nothing would be said You're talking nonsense. Spouting a rhetoric that supports your prejudices. If a colleague was discriminatory towards you based on your heterosexuality and you reported it and your employer didn't investigate they would be breaking the law.
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