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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 18:12:01 GMT
All clubs who have been fined should refuse to enter next year's competition! With a bit of luck we hopefully will be in a league next season that is not eligible for this competition.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 18:13:48 GMT
To be fair Holloway talked nonsense on that occasion. Making 10 changes with a view to resting players in a league game shouldn't be accepted. I'm amazed that the EFL have enforced these fines given the amount of bad publicity the competition has already received. A total shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 18:13:56 GMT
Annoying to be fined £3k, when you think of the effort put into the FFS and the money that has gone to the club from that.
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Post by abbeygas on Nov 16, 2016 18:51:52 GMT
Absolute Chuffing disgrace. And to think that Luton fielded their youth team in one of their matches and actually won the game. Of course our resident sh*thead on the FA is saying that he (Scudamore) wants the same format for next year. And to think that Exeter and Yeovil among others actually think it has been a success. If the under 23's or whatever they are can opt in or out, why can't the rest of us?. More to the point, why should they field foreign players? It's meant to be helping OUR national side. Perhaps clubs that don't want to be in this heap of crap can join together and fund a law suit to sue Scudamore PERSONALLY. Once a sh*thead, always a sh*thead. I think that u23 teams being in efl trophy is a joke but the justification for them being included was to develop English talent so why are they playing foreign players in this competition? Surely it is u23 teams that should be getting fined for not respecting the spirit of the competition!
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Post by Severncider on Nov 16, 2016 19:18:18 GMT
I hope the club appeal against this farcical decision.
If we involve a legal team, I hope and pray it is not the legal team used by the previous regime.
Whilst I appreciate everyone were well aware of the "terms and conditions" regarding this completion, it cannot be right that:-
1 - Different rules apply to the U23 Academy teams and the rest 2 - The rules appear to have changed AFTER the competition is underway
I assume that we CANNOT not take part but at the next Chairman's meeting next year I would hope that all participating Chairman would vote this down as I am lead to believe that this was a one year deal.
Even the clubs that voted for this thought that all the Premiership Academy teams were taking part and apart from Chelsea, they all declined to take part.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 16, 2016 19:28:01 GMT
They change the tournament to 'help develop youth'
Then they fine the fl clubs for playing youth.
Work that one out.
On the plus side they had to drop their whole game solution idea earlier today.
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Post by abbeygas on Nov 16, 2016 19:33:48 GMT
I hope the club appeal against this farcical decision.
If we involve a legal team, I hope and pray it is not the legal team used by the previous regime.
Whilst I appreciate everyone were well aware of the "terms and conditions" regarding this completion, it cannot be right that:-
1 - Different rules apply to the U23 Academy teams and the rest 2 - The rules appear to have changed AFTER the competition is underway
I assume that we CANNOT not take part but at the next Chairman's meeting next year I would hope that all participating Chairman would vote this down as I am lead to believe that this was a one year deal.
Even the clubs that voted for this thought that all the Premiership Academy teams were taking part and apart from Chelsea, they all declined to take part.
And where are the best Chelsea u23 players? Over 40 of them out on loan to get experience so just the dregs getting trotted out for efl trophy games. No chance they will turn into players that will benefit England team just a way of putting them in shop windows so they can make a few quid.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 16, 2016 20:04:26 GMT
Whilst it's a surprise the FA want to bring even more bad publicity on the trophy by fining clubs how can they suddenly make up rules about sub not being in the spirit of the game, all you do have to wonder why Puddy just didn't start the game anyway.
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Post by Briz Red on Nov 16, 2016 20:53:03 GMT
It's pathetic that you've been fined - totally agree with all the boycotts and indifference shown by so many clubs.
It used to be a half-decent competition, now it's just a farce.
The sponsors must be fuming, fair play to them for ploughing good money into football but it doesn't look good, who wants to watch a final at Wembley between, say, Norwich U21 and Southend?!
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Post by gasincider on Nov 16, 2016 20:56:28 GMT
Puddy didn't start the game because Roos was one of five players that started the previous game as required in the rules. Bringing on Puddy allowed us to effectively only have four from the previous game to be playing.
Why should the EFL tell us who we should play when it's supposed to help the England team, and the top clubs play foreigners FFS?
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Post by Briz Red on Nov 16, 2016 21:33:02 GMT
Absolute Chuffing disgrace. And to think that Luton fielded their youth team in one of their matches and actually won the game. Of course our resident sh*thead on the FA is saying that he (Scudamore) wants the same format for next year. And to think that Exeter and Yeovil among others actually think it has been a success. If the under 23's or whatever they are can opt in or out, why can't the rest of us?. More to the point, why should they field foreign players? It's meant to be helping OUR national side. Perhaps clubs that don't want to be in this heap of crap can join together and fund a law suit to sue Scudamore PERSONALLY. Once a sh*thead, always a sh*thead. What's it got to do with Scudamore? He's chairman of the Premier League....totally separate to the FA or the FL...
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Post by bluegas on Nov 16, 2016 22:04:28 GMT
Absolute Chuffing disgrace. And to think that Luton fielded their youth team in one of their matches and actually won the game. Of course our resident sh*thead on the FA is saying that he (Scudamore) wants the same format for next year. And to think that Exeter and Yeovil among others actually think it has been a success. If the under 23's or whatever they are can opt in or out, why can't the rest of us?. More to the point, why should they field foreign players? It's meant to be helping OUR national side. Perhaps clubs that don't want to be in this heap of crap can join together and fund a law suit to sue Scudamore PERSONALLY. Once a sh*thead, always a sh*thead. What's it got to do with Scudamore? He's chairman of the Premier League....totally separate to the FA or the FL... But isn't it the Premier League tail that wags the FA & FL dog (as it were)?
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Post by gasincider on Nov 16, 2016 22:21:21 GMT
I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. No, they didn't support the competition, they supported their team. Who the hell are you to condemn people supporting their team?
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Post by Briz Red on Nov 16, 2016 22:23:56 GMT
What's it got to do with Scudamore? He's chairman of the Premier League....totally separate to the FA or the FL... But isn't it the Premier League tail that wags the FA & FL dog (as it were)? You may be right but I just can't see how the Chairman of the Premier League has any influence over the Checkatrade Trophy?! I really don't think that the top brass at the Premier League even consider the Checkatrade Trophy - I may be incorrect....but hysterical posts about suing 'Sh*thead Scudamore' over the failure of the Checkatrade Trophy are woefully misguided...the top level management of the Premier League has not had input into this competition...
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Post by gasincider on Nov 16, 2016 22:25:00 GMT
What's it got to do with Scudamore? He's chairman of the Premier League....totally separate to the FA or the FL... You are right Premier League. What's it got to do with him? Well let's think about it. Wasn't it them that were supposed to put their youngsters in the competition? F##k him. This was all about Premier League kids getting a few meaningful games. But yeah, what the F##k would he know about football and youngsters? He's only the chairman of the folks who want our help in exchange for a few pieces of silver. Put the teams in the FA Cup and see how the sh** react to playing them. They'd probably have 30,000 there to watch Readings kids.
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Post by mumbles on Nov 17, 2016 0:24:06 GMT
What gets me is that due to EFL rule changes regarding loans this season it effectively means that clubs need larger squads than they used to as they can no longer get short term loans to cover injuries etc. That means there are going to be more fringe players that need games and it's tournaments like this that allow those players to get a run out. The rules are so badly thought out and written it's an absolute joke.
I can't seem to post it here but I liked the Luton Town response which was posted on twitter. How can they be punished the maximum amount for winning their games and getting through to the next round? Madness.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 17, 2016 6:59:41 GMT
The Luton fine is a joke. Not only did they play their kids, against West Brom 'Under 23's' who had two internationals and two guys worth millions, they also beat them!
Peterborough got fined for playing their kids against an 'Under 23' side who beat them thanks to a hat trick from a 29 year old Frenchman.
As for the Premier League, we know they run the show and the FA and FL bow down to them. In my opinion, the premier league is the reason the national team is so sh*te.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 7:26:36 GMT
If you really want fo make an impact, boycott checkatrade if you use them. Tell them youll only send apprentices from overseas to buy there :/)
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 17, 2016 7:31:15 GMT
I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. At least the money i gave the club will help pay this fine unlike your contribution to the club for this sh** competition
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Post by garystash on Nov 17, 2016 7:36:12 GMT
It really is the Mickey Mouse Cup now - Checkatrade must delighted to be associated with a competion which has generated so much negativity this season. true, it's a massive shame for checkatrade to get associated with this when all they were doing was sponsoring a long standing lower divisions football competition with all the best of intentions.... I would hope that the efl give them their money back to be honest.... I bet checkatrade are loving all the extra exposure their brand is getting. Every time there's a news story about it they get a mention. It's probably been a bargain for the amount of marketing the competition has given them.
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