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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 8:32:34 GMT
I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. At least the money i gave the club will help pay this fine unlike your contribution to the club for this sh** competition Yes, and your sub £5 contribution (max) will go a long way towards paying the fine, great work. Myself and others who didn't attend make a conscious effort to compensate our non-attendance so that argument is very weak. The best contribution anyone could have made to the club's best interests was not to attend, in particular the Reading U21 game. Effectively voting for the introduction of B/U21 teams in competitive competition is certainly nothing to be proud of. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2016 8:33:16 GMT
Puddy didn't start the game because Roos was one of five players that started the previous game as required in the rules. Bringing on Puddy allowed us to effectively only have four from the previous game to be playing. Why should the EFL tell us who we should play when it's supposed to help the England team, and the top clubs play foreigners FFS? But Roos didn't have to be one of the the 5 players? DC wanted to make a point of subbing him after 2 mins and it's backfired with a £3,000 fine, as far as the EFL telling us who we should play I guess that's the rules the majority of the FL clubs accepted when agreeing to enter the Tournament. I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. No, they didn't support the competition, they supported their team. Who the hell are you to condemn people supporting their team? I guess those fans can see the bigger picture, imagine what would have happened if zero home fans turned up, the EFL would be an even bigger laughing stock than they are now. |
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Post by thegasman on Nov 17, 2016 8:42:04 GMT
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 17, 2016 8:58:59 GMT
Puddy didn't start the game because Roos was one of five players that started the previous game as required in the rules. Bringing on Puddy allowed us to effectively only have four from the previous game to be playing. Why should the EFL tell us who we should play when it's supposed to help the England team, and the top clubs play foreigners FFS? But Roos didn't have to be one of the the 5 players? DC wanted to make a point of subbing him after 2 mins and it's backfired with a £3,000 fine, as far as the EFL telling us who we should play I guess that's the rules the majority of the FL clubs accepted when agreeing to enter the Tournament. No, they didn't support the competition, they supported their team. Who the hell are you to condemn people supporting their team? I guess those fans can see the bigger picture, imagine what would have happened if zero home fans turned up, the EFL would be an even bigger laughing stock than they are now.... and if the club wanted a non attendance they should kept normal match day pricing, but no they reduced the prices. So you have to blame the club just as much for encouraging us to attend |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 17, 2016 8:59:51 GMT
Yeah, it's funny how we obeyed the rules but got done for breaking the spirit of the rules, whereas Luton broke the rules but adhered to the spirit of the rules (they couldn't do any more than win their game against a higher team) and got done for that anyway. And, as we were told the tournament was there to help young English talent get a game, every single one of the U23s broke the spirit of the rules with impunity. Clusterfuck. And no doubt fuckwit Harvey will come out and say the tournament was a success. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:02:06 GMT
Amazing isn't it that clubs can be fined for fielding an 'understrength' team, possibly full of youngsters getting their first starts, yet ironically the competition has been rehashed to try and help the future of English football.
Who is to say the future of English football isn't starting at one of the lower league clubs?
Why don't they create their own cup competition for just U23 sides rather than meddle with our competition?
Checkatrade are probably loving it, lots of extra publicity for them.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 17, 2016 9:05:29 GMT
Checkatrade are probably loving it, lots of extra publicity for them. Lots of ill-will towards them, as well, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:06:18 GMT
I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. No, they didn't support the competition, they supported their team. Who the hell are you to condemn people supporting their team? Probably someone who saw the bigger picture and wanted to join the majority of dedicated and loyal Gasheads in selflessly deciding not to attend a game? A decision taken in the best interests of the club and lower league football as a whole. Of course they supported the competition, both in their attendance and financially. This unconditional 'support the team' attitude is why supporters continue to get exploited and taken advantage of by owners and broadcasters across the country. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:12:59 GMT
Checkatrade are probably loving it, lots of extra publicity for them. Lots of ill-will towards them, as well, though.
I think most people with any sort of average intelligence will understand they do not make the rules, but whether its good or bad publicity people have now heard of them and that's a big thing in advertising.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 17, 2016 10:38:22 GMT
Lots of ill-will towards them, as well, though.
I think most people with any sort of average intelligence will understand they do not make the rules, but whether its good or bad publicity people have now heard of them and that's a big thing in advertising.
Well, I read some of the posts they made on Twitter disparaging critics of the competition, when this first blew up, and I won't be using them ever. |
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Post by inee on Nov 17, 2016 10:48:39 GMT
I think most people with any sort of average intelligence will understand they do not make the rules, but whether its good or bad publicity people have now heard of them and that's a big thing in advertising.
Well, I read some of the posts they made on Twitter disparaging critics of the competition, when this first blew up, and I won't be using them ever. agree there huggy, people seem to forget the comment about boycotting fans that checkatrade made, if memory serves there was a thread on here about checkatrades comments, very surprised it took 3 pages to get a mention |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 10:54:00 GMT
I hope Gasheads that attended these matches are glad they supported the competition now. What a f**king shambles. At least the money i gave the club will help pay this fine unlike your contribution to the club for this sh** competition The money you lot put in was taken away again in fines by this shower of a competition. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 17, 2016 10:55:50 GMT
This is one instance when a judicial review wold actually have a reasonable prospect of success.
Oh and anyone who still doesn't think boycotting was the best option has already been proved wrong by the way Harvey has tried to spin the attendances. So well done for supporting the team but ultimately all you've done is damage the prospects of our and all lower league clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 11:00:43 GMT
I think most people with any sort of average intelligence will understand they do not make the rules, but whether its good or bad publicity people have now heard of them and that's a big thing in advertising.
Well, I read some of the posts they made on Twitter disparaging critics of the competition, when this first blew up, and I won't be using them ever.
Yes I saw and commented about how bad that was on a previous thread; they shouldn't be getting involved in that at all, and hopefully the person in charge of posting from that account was removed.
There are plenty of badly judged comments made from lots of official twitter accounts, including our own.
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Post by inee on Nov 17, 2016 11:04:47 GMT
Puddy didn't start the game because Roos was one of five players that started the previous game as required in the rules. Bringing on Puddy allowed us to effectively only have four from the previous game to be playing. Why should the EFL tell us who we should play when it's supposed to help the England team, and the top clubs play foreigners FFS? But Roos didn't have to be one of the the 5 players? DC wanted to make a point of subbing him after 2 mins and it's backfired with a £3,000 fine, as far as the EFL telling us who we should play I guess that's the rules the majority of the FL clubs accepted when agreeing to enter the Tournament. No, they didn't support the competition, they supported their team. Who the hell are you to condemn people supporting their team? I guess those fans can see the bigger picture, imagine what would have happened if zero home fans turned up, the EFL would be an even bigger laughing stock than they are now. I can see both sides, some people just want to see their team play, some took advantage of the cut price, and on that basis if it is maybe one of the few game they can attend due to finances, then who are we to have a dig(talking about every club not just ours). I commented before on an easy solution to make it look an even bigger farce, one of the rules stated that any sending offs or yellows would only apply to this competition, what i mentioned went like this, league side get players sent off until game is abandoned or forfeited, next if anyone played an under 21 side the lost, that way all league clubs would be out quickly, thus only the under 21's would continue in the cup. At least then no one could be fined, DC was just following the rules to the letter, Roos started and was subbed, totally legit, it should be appealed on the ground that at this stage of the league, DC couldn't let roos pick up any injuries as it would be to the detriment of our team and puddy had to be tested under match conditions. Lets not start on fans who went for whatever reason( i went to the cardiff game but have not been to anymore). Does this make me a bad person, oh well  , the simple reality is that clubs have various options open to them to make the competition look as stupid as it really is, oh yeah and if we want more english talent to come through then maybe premier league and championship side should be made to play at least 2 under 21's from england in each game, after all it's their players who are in the u21 sides, genuine question was every under21 player english,scottish ,irish or welsh and if not then maybe the efl should take the fa to court for breaking the rules |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 17, 2016 11:06:49 GMT
This is one instance when a judicial review wold actually have a reasonable prospect of success. Oh and anyone who still doesn't think boycotting was the best option has already been proved wrong by the way Harvey has tried to spin the attendances. So well done for supporting the team but ultimately all you've done is damage the prospects of our and all lower league clubs.... and you have proof of that our is just your own opinion like everybody else on here ? |
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Post by Severncider on Nov 17, 2016 11:14:25 GMT
I do NOT blame any fan for attending or not attending this competition.
I blame the clubs, not BRFC, who voted for this revised set-up. It is assumed that those who voted in favour thought they would make money from having a Premiership club being in their group but the majority of the "big clubs" decided not to take part so any benefit went out of the window. The Premiership clubs already have their own U23 league so why anyone thought that this would benefit them, I have no idea.
I would like BRFC to come out with a very strong statement deriding this competition and pleading with all participating championship clubs to oppose this at the next Chairman's AGM. I would like to hope that Wael and Steve Hamer take every opportunity to "discuss" this with their opposite numbers at every home and away game they attend.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2016 11:18:45 GMT
If no fans turned up can you honestly see the the "trial" continuing next season, as it is then the EFL can still say x amount of fans are attending (which they have already done) so it's not a complete failure lets continue for, say, 5 years now and see what happens in the future. Given the players themselves didn't seem interested in the trophy games I doubt they wanted any support in any event.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 11:39:08 GMT
Lets not start on fans who went for whatever reason( i went to the cardiff game but have not been to anymore). Does this make me a bad person, oh well , the simple reality is that clubs have various options open to them to make the competition look as stupid as it really is, oh yeah and if we want more english talent to come through then maybe premier league and championship side should be made to play at least 2 under 21's from england in each game, after all it's their players who are in the u21 sides, genuine question was every under21 player english,scottish ,irish or welsh and if not then maybe the efl should take the fa to court for breaking the rules The Cardiff game was part of a different competition, so no it doesn't! Sorry but the fans are/were in control of making the competition look stupid. By not attending and the clubs making a loss on the games, the clubs then stick their middle finger up at either the continuation of the competition or an expansion of u23 teams into the league. I had this argument at the time, but the attendees do not realise the impact a League 3 system would have/will have on BRFC and other clubs. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 17, 2016 12:24:34 GMT
But Roos didn't have to be one of the the 5 players? DC wanted to make a point of subbing him after 2 mins and it's backfired with a £3,000 fine, I wouldn't say that's backfired. I would say that emphasises the point we were trying to make. We won't end up paying it, anyway. They don't have a leg to stand on. |
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, the simple reality is that clubs have various options open to them to make the competition look as stupid as it really is, oh yeah and if we want more english talent to come through then maybe premier league and championship side should be made to play at least 2 under 21's from england in each game, after all it's their players who are in the u21 sides, genuine question was every under21 player english,scottish ,irish or welsh and if not then maybe the efl should take the fa to court for breaking the rules 