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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 10:11:27 GMT
Yet another sensationalist title from the OP.
I think the wheels came off at MK Dons away. We were lucky not to be in at half time 5-0 down. The players looked limited then. Lets not forget we've had quite a few last minute goals to get points. No time for sentimentality, time to get some stronger players in.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Dec 18, 2016 10:25:21 GMT
wael gave dc a pathetic budget which meant he signed a bunch of kids on loan and 2 very ordinary lge 1 players. wael has delivered * all so far but has left our manager struggling signing kids on loan with a silly billy low budget. whats the difference between higgs and wael on the evidence so far? nothing as yet,,what about making some proper signings instead of the little children and failed professionals we have signed so far? why dont we question wael and say what the hell is going on? As you are obviously ITK could you tell us all exactly what are playing budget is and also tell exactly how much of that is being spent on players who will never play? Also can you tell exactly how this compares to the other 23 L1 clubs? No need to hurry give yourself the whole day to reply
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Post by pirate49 on Dec 18, 2016 10:26:20 GMT
DC incentivised (rightly or wrongly) the players with a contract upon promotion toward the end of the season. DCs choice ........but now may have de-incentivsed them by publicly criticizing individuals and letting it be known that a number will be on their way in January
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Post by bluegas on Dec 18, 2016 10:56:26 GMT
Depends on how you want to interpret DCs use of the word budget. He may well have money to spend,but by re-signing most of last years team he has only spent bottom 8 money so far. Agree, use of word budget by DC implies limit, when I suspect he meant actual running costs of squad. It's clear he has been given green light to spend so must be some funds available. But won't put us top 6 in terms of budget I'm sure. Wael wants to run the club sustainably and create value from his investment. That means getting more out than you put in, therefore he will be expecting a higher actual position vs cost of achieving it I'm sure. That's why he us investing in club infrastructure ahead of players, and that includes DC[/quote] Absolutely. Wael is a big football fan. I doubt his family are. So they're not gonna Lt him throw money at the club like confetti. Quite rightly. The club needs to be self-sustaining. Which is what he's said all along. But some people don't listen or only hear what they want to hear.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 18, 2016 11:43:44 GMT
wael gave dc a pathetic budget which meant he signed a bunch of kids on loan and 2 very ordinary lge 1 players. wael has delivered * all so far but has left our manager struggling signing kids on loan with a silly billy low budget. whats the difference between higgs and wael on the evidence so far? nothing as yet,,what about making some proper signings instead of the little children and failed professionals we have signed so far? why dont we question wael and say what the hell is going on? This post is utter crap. In my opinion your ability to write an accurate critical assessment has just hit zero and if this is the best you can manage perhaps you would be better keeping your thoughts to yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 11:56:01 GMT
Do not feed the trolls!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 18, 2016 12:05:05 GMT
Did DC not say he had money to spend?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 12:06:07 GMT
Were you RAT assed when you started this thread. Surely your taking the Micky. New owners done more in 10 months than Higgs and co done in there tenure. Ridiculous comments from some fans. Probably the same fans who said they be happy with survival this season. I look forward to seeing this new test for our young inexperienced manager. Wouldn't say he's had it easy last 2 years but this is the 1st real bad bit of form, and a new challenge to put it right for him. He says he's got funds in January, so lets see what he does about it. IN WAEL I TRUST i know wael delivered on the debt issue but nothing seems to be happening on the new ground project. in the cold light of day the 8 signings have been very poor and got on the cheap in the main. only byron moore is established at this level[yes i know hes struggled too] which never really made sense because the team needed experience to help them this season not youth players and players with a bit of lge 2 experience.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 18, 2016 12:06:55 GMT
Yet another sensationalist title from the OP. I think the wheels came off at MK Dons away. We were lucky not to be in at half time 5-0 down. The players looked limited then. Lets not forget we've had quite a few last minute goals to get points. No time for sentimentality, time to get some stronger players in. This is the problem. We have been conceding for fun all season but we were also scoring. The goals have dried up now so every defensive mistake is costing us dearly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 12:15:22 GMT
The OP yet again reveals he is one of the ITK's, making a claim and not providing a shred of evidence to back it up. well the manager himself said he has a bottom 8 budget,so hes either lying or being let down by wael,its one or the other. also we have signed a bunch of kids or inexperienced players,thats a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 12:18:41 GMT
wael gave dc a pathetic budget which meant he signed a bunch of kids on loan and 2 very ordinary lge 1 players. wael has delivered * all so far but has left our manager struggling signing kids on loan with a silly billy low budget. whats the difference between higgs and wael on the evidence so far? nothing as yet,,what about making some proper signings instead of the little children and failed professionals we have signed so far? why dont we question wael and say what the hell is going on? As you are obviously ITK could you tell us all exactly what are playing budget is and also tell exactly how much of that is being spent on players who will never play? Also can you tell exactly how this compares to the other 23 L1 clubs? No need to hurry give yourself the whole day to reply dc himself said we had a bottom 8 budget,also take a look at the total lack of experience of most of the new signings,they were signed on the cheap basically
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Post by knowall on Dec 18, 2016 12:24:02 GMT
I think you will find the debt was moved, not paid off, That said they have still invested a good few bob, if we are building a new debt or not, we will find out later. Early days yet, but we still look to be going in the right direction. I would be interested to know how NH and the other directors and major shareholders were paid off if Wael had not found the cash from a company which he owns and is therefore was his money.
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Post by ipswichrover on Dec 18, 2016 12:30:16 GMT
Darrell Clarke has done a great job over the last two years but I feel that to describe him 'our greatest manger ever' as someone did above, is a bit premature. (Francis got us promoted to the second tier on a shoestring and Tann took us to verge of the top division). DC has so far operated at a level where he has lots of experience. He has tended to gather players of whom he already has some knowledge. From here on, that doesn't apply quite so much. He is fallible and nobody gets everything right all the time as they advance through their career. He obviously thought he got it right with recruitment in the summer as he originally said back in September that there would be little change in January; now he is saying the opposite. He thought he knew what was needed when he first took over as manager and we know that didn't go quite as he intended. Something has clearly gone wrong now with team spirit, perhaps because managing a large squad is something our manager hasn't done before.
The next few months will show whether our manager can really go on to be a great manager or just someone who does well at L2 and non league level, using players he knows. Fingers crossed he gets it right!
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Post by peterparker on Dec 18, 2016 12:53:54 GMT
The OP yet again reveals he is one of the ITK's, making a claim and not providing a shred of evidence to back it up. well the manager himself said he has a bottom 8 budget,so hes either lying or being let down by wael,its one or the other. also we have signed a bunch of kids or inexperienced players,thats a fact. And if he has a bottom 8 budget, how is Wael letting him down. What budget to you think we would have had with Nick Higgs in charge for instance? What budget do you expect DC to have?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:01:27 GMT
well the manager himself said he has a bottom 8 budget,so hes either lying or being let down by wael,its one or the other. also we have signed a bunch of kids or inexperienced players,thats a fact. And if he has a bottom 8 budget, how is Wael letting him down. What budget to you think we would have had with Nick Higgs in charge for instance? What budget do you expect DC to have? based on our support and our wealthy owner i would have hoped for a top 8 budget. i think we would have had to make do with what we already had mostly if higgs was in charge but the larger squad has hindered more than helped in my view.
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 18, 2016 13:13:19 GMT
Is this thread from 1st November when we were 5th?
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Post by pirate49 on Dec 18, 2016 14:00:17 GMT
Darrell Clarke has done a great job over the last two years but I feel that to describe him 'our greatest manger ever' as someone did above, is a bit premature. (Francis got us promoted to the second tier on a shoestring and Tann took us to verge of the top division). DC has so far operated at a level where he has lots of experience. He has tended to gather players of whom he already has some knowledge. From here on, that doesn't apply quite so much. He is fallible and nobody gets everything right all the time as they advance through their career. He obviously thought he got it right with recruitment in the summer as he originally said back in September that there would be little change in January; now he is saying the opposite. He thought he knew what was needed when he first took over as manager and we know that didn't go quite as he intended. Something has clearly gone wrong now with team spirit, perhaps because managing a large squad is something our manager hasn't done before. The next few months will show whether our manager can really go on to be a great manager or just someone who does well at L2 and non league level, using players he knows. Fingers crossed he gets it right! Absolutely spot on!
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Post by countygroundhotel on Dec 18, 2016 14:26:14 GMT
As you are obviously ITK could you tell us all exactly what are playing budget is and also tell exactly how much of that is being spent on players who will never play? Also can you tell exactly how this compares to the other 23 L1 clubs? No need to hurry give yourself the whole day to reply dc himself said we had a bottom 8 budget,also take a look at the total lack of experience of most of the new signings,they were signed on the cheap basically And he learnt how to understate his budget after reading the Arsene Wenger biography? Not a manager in the game which says my budget is massive and it's a disgrace were underachieving. The only fact is that you know f**k all about our budget or anyone else's. Just another daily thread from you to lash out at someone pathetic.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2016 14:48:24 GMT
Why would DC basically lie about his budget? What if SH or Wael now come out and say it's actually top 8, he'd look a bit of a plonker, wouldn't he?
The honey mood period is well and truly coming to end for Wael it'll be interesting to see how he responds with his backing of DC in January plus what news he releases regarding the training ground, once pp is obtained this month, and also the UWE.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:51:07 GMT
dc himself said we had a bottom 8 budget,also take a look at the total lack of experience of most of the new signings,they were signed on the cheap basically And he learnt how to understate his budget after reading the Arsene Wenger biography? Not a manager in the game which says my budget is massive and it's a disgrace were underachieving. The only fact is that you know f**k all about our budget or anyone else's. Just another daily thread from you to lash out at someone pathetic. so your response to me could just as easily apply to the manager?
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