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Post by Severncider on Jan 3, 2017 11:16:50 GMT
Has anybody actually asked John Keyes if he is aware of this? Yes.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2017 11:32:35 GMT
What did Wael think about the team's performance? I talked to him briefly on the tube after getting off the train. He thought that the marking was poor for the goals and that we gave away to many unnecessary free kicks in dangerous positions. But, he was very positive about 6 points from 9 over the festive period (no argument from me over that one).
So the President and the manager are both blaming the captain, isn't it about time they did something to rectify the problem? I wonder how many goals have been conceded due to individual errors by our captain this season, it's got to be half a dozen or more?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 3, 2017 11:38:05 GMT
I talked to him briefly on the tube after getting off the train. He thought that the marking was poor for the goals and that we gave away to many unnecessary free kicks in dangerous positions. But, he was very positive about 6 points from 9 over the festive period (no argument from me over that one).
So the President and the manager are both blaming the captain, isn't it about time they did something to rectify the problem? I wonder how many goals have been conceded due to individual errors by our captain this season, it's got to be half a dozen or more? I must've misread the quote....can't see the word 'captain' in there?
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jan 3, 2017 11:45:07 GMT
There are some extremely nice people in football, polite, chatty and respectful (I have met both Antonio Conte and Jason Roberts in the last year who both match these qualities). So no surprise that Wael & Steve fit the bill too, particularly as they are Gasheads.
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Post by Langford Gas on Jan 3, 2017 11:45:58 GMT
I talked to him briefly on the tube after getting off the train. He thought that the marking was poor for the goals and that we gave away to many unnecessary free kicks in dangerous positions. But, he was very positive about 6 points from 9 over the festive period (no argument from me over that one).
So the President and the manager are both blaming the captain, isn't it about time they did something to rectify the problem? I wonder how many goals have been conceded due to individual errors by our captain this season, it's got to be half a dozen or more? Surely it was a tongue in cheek comment referring to John Keyes?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 3, 2017 11:48:37 GMT
Didn't Hamer say the same months ago though?? He said then it was going well and we would here an announcement soon. That seems like his normal answer. Did Wael add anything? He is the one that did if not at Uwe, elsewhere, like he was not so confident. Think he's more honest, where as Hamer is a typical chairman and tells you want you want to hear.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 3, 2017 11:51:04 GMT
Didn't Hamer say the same months ago though?? He said then it was going well and we would here an announcement soon. That seems like his normal answer. Did Wael add anything? He is the one that did if not at Uwe, elsewhere, like he was not so confident. Think he's more honest, where as Hamer is a typical chairman and tells you want you want to hear. He only tells us what we want to hear because he is pestered to do so. If he was just left to do his job, he wouldn't have to do this would he?
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Post by yattongas on Jan 3, 2017 11:52:30 GMT
Did he mention crossing the t's and dotting the i's ?
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Post by gasincider on Jan 3, 2017 11:56:47 GMT
John Kayes and Stuart Harding (Uncle Alberts brother) did the whole Sabadell organisation last year and did it on a package deal basis, so that flights, transfers, hotels etc etc were done in a complete deal. It resulted in about 600 of us going over and Sabadell were delighted with the whole event.
If the club want to do it themselves this time I'm glad Peter Parker feels they will be able to do it. I hope they fare better than this years shirts debacle. It seems the club haven't asked JK and SH helping out with this as they have not been asked to. I know because I was with JK yesterday, and he told me that he has not been asked by the club to help, but will be happy to give them the benefit of what he learnt about arranging the last one. In fact I think he was relieved not to do it this time, as it almost took over his life for months.
Remember, the fans were all flown to Gerona (in JKs deal) then bussed to the hotel in Santa Susanna then bussed to the game on the day and back to Santa Susanna for a few more days, before then being bussed back to the airport for the flight home. The players were flown direct to a Barcelona and put up in a top notch country hotel which the club were delighted with, all at no cost to our club.
Will the club do it on the same basis or will we be left to organise ourselves individually? Time will tell, but if most of the arrangements are to be done for ourselves, then I feel we won't get half as many there next time.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 3, 2017 11:59:16 GMT
Didn't Hamer say the same months ago though?? He said then it was going well and we would here an announcement soon. That seems like his normal answer. Did Wael add anything? He is the one that did if not at Uwe, elsewhere, like he was not so confident. Think he's more honest, where as Hamer is a typical chairman and tells you want you want to hear. He only tells us what we want to hear because he is pestered to do so. If he was just left to do his job, he wouldn't have to do this would he? He could have said I can't talk about that. Most fans would accept that, as most clubs don't talk about negotiations, until they are sorted one way or another. To say it's going well, we will hopefully have new in the next few weeks is going to get our hopes up. Hopefully he's right this time. If he's not sure, he does not have to give anything away.
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Post by gasincider on Jan 3, 2017 11:59:37 GMT
Didn't Hamer say the same months ago though?? He said then it was going well and we would here an announcement soon. That seems like his normal answer. Did Wael add anything? He is the one that did if not at Uwe, elsewhere, like he was not so confident. Think he's more honest, where as Hamer is a typical chairman and tells you want you want to hear. He only tells us what we want to hear because he is pestered to do so. If he was just left to do his job, he wouldn't have to do this would he? Quite simple. If you don't want to give an answer say nothing. If you do reply just be honest. That is how I assume Steve answered so fingers crossed.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 3, 2017 12:01:22 GMT
He only tells us what we want to hear because he is pestered to do so. If he was just left to do his job, he wouldn't have to do this would he? He could have said I can't talk about that. Most fans would accept that, as most clubs don't talk about negotiations, until they are sorted one way or another. To say it's going well, we will hopefully have new in the next few weeks is going to get our hopes up. Hopefully he's right this time. If he's not sure, he does not have to give anything away. But you know as well as I do that the pessimists on here would've took that as bad news and decided that it wasn't going well.
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Post by slam on Jan 3, 2017 12:23:12 GMT
So the President and the manager are both blaming the captain, isn't it about time they did something to rectify the problem? I wonder how many goals have been conceded due to individual errors by our captain this season, it's got to be half a dozen or more? I must've misread the quote....can't see the word 'captain' in there? Whilst I am sure that Wael may have his own personal thoughts about individual performances, he made NO reference to any form of individual blame for yesterday's result. Similarly, I cannot recollect him singling out positive individual performances during our ascendancy either.
That is exactly as it should be.
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Post by gonzales on Jan 3, 2017 12:49:05 GMT
Gasincider - Not everybody who went to Sabadell went via Santa Susana, me and my friends organised our own trip as we wanted to stay in Barcelona, we even managed to get a train to Sabadell to watch the match and met quite a few others doing the same. Through Keyes and co we brought out match tickets and entrance to the pre-game meet and greet, I thought at the time that John etc deserves kudos for their efforts and it was a fantastic day. I'm basically taking exception with your comments as I don't see why Rovers and Sabadell can't converse as to when is the best date for the trip and then let John Keyes etc know this information which would allow them to build a similar package... I'm pretty sure he didn't decide when the best time for last years trip was!
I'm mostly disappointed that they aren't coming here, I thought speaking with their fans that this was the plan and I'd like more of our fans to get an opportunity to see Sabadell and strengthen our relationship with them.
RE: UWE, not much to say on that but I'm sure Oldgas is sincere in his report and let's see what happens!
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jan 3, 2017 13:05:22 GMT
John Kayes and Stuart Harding (Uncle Alberts brother) did the whole Sabadell organisation last year and did it on a package deal basis, so that flights, transfers, hotels etc etc were done in a complete deal. It resulted in about 600 of us going over and Sabadell were delighted with the whole event. If the club want to do it themselves this time I'm glad Peter Parker feels they will be able to do it. I hope they fare better than this years shirts debacle. It seems the club haven't asked JK and SH helping out with this as they have not been asked to. I know because I was with JK yesterday, and he told me that he has not been asked by the club to help, but will be happy to give them the benefit of what he learnt about arranging the last one. In fact I think he was relieved not to do it this time, as it almost took over his life for months. Remember, the fans were all flown to Gerona (in JKs deal) then bussed to the hotel in Santa Susanna then bussed to the game on the day and back to Santa Susanna for a few more days, before then being bussed back to the airport for the flight home. The players were flown direct to a Barcelona and put up in a top notch country hotel which the club were delighted with, all at no cost to our club. Will the club do it on the same basis or will we be left to organise ourselves individually? Time will tell, but if most of the arrangements are to be done for ourselves, then I feel we won't get half as many there next time. The downside of the club being rum professionally which people will only realise too late. Still perhaps we'll have an official travel partner by next summer which I'm sure will please all.
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Post by banjoflyer on Jan 3, 2017 13:05:36 GMT
If talking about the UWE is not out of bounds then why wasn't a similar statement made by SH in his Xmas message to the fans. Maybe there has been some positive (or negative) movement in recent days?
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Post by peterparker on Jan 3, 2017 13:08:32 GMT
John Kayes and Stuart Harding (Uncle Alberts brother) did the whole Sabadell organisation last year and did it on a package deal basis, so that flights, transfers, hotels etc etc were done in a complete deal. It resulted in about 600 of us going over and Sabadell were delighted with the whole event. If the club want to do it themselves this time I'm glad Peter Parker feels they will be able to do it. I hope they fare better than this years shirts debacle. It seems the club haven't asked JK and SH helping out with this as they have not been asked to. I know because I was with JK yesterday, and he told me that he has not been asked by the club to help, but will be happy to give them the benefit of what he learnt about arranging the last one. In fact I think he was relieved not to do it this time, as it almost took over his life for months. Remember, the fans were all flown to Gerona (in JKs deal) then bussed to the hotel in Santa Susanna then bussed to the game on the day and back to Santa Susanna for a few more days, before then being bussed back to the airport for the flight home. The players were flown direct to a Barcelona and put up in a top notch country hotel which the club were delighted with, all at no cost to our club. Will the club do it on the same basis or will we be left to organise ourselves individually? Time will tell, but if most of the arrangements are to be done for ourselves, then I feel we won't get half as many there next time. That isn't what I said is it.
I said the club are capable of arranging a pre-season game.
If John Keyes and co want to organise trips and the like they can do so
As the date is not yet finalised it is a bit hard for either party to organise any packages right now
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Post by slam on Jan 3, 2017 13:21:49 GMT
Back to the subject of the stadium development at UWE.
I am not "in the know" and therefore my comments here can only be described as speculative. However, it is my humble opinion that the reason for the delay in progressing this is that the new owners want to BUY the site on which the stadium will be built so that we own and have the rights to everything entailed with the development of stadium . The original business plan when the project started was to build the stadium on land leased from UWE.
There is a massive difference with the two scenarios from the point of view of the owner, BRFC and UWE. That takes some ironing out from all sides. Whilst it is frustrating not to hear the news that the stadium is pushing ahead, I do trust the owners to make sure it is the right deal for the club - even if it extends the timescale.
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Post by gasstrictband on Jan 3, 2017 13:25:15 GMT
Hi Old Gas .Your post I'm know there a song in there somewhere
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Post by xplosivgas on Jan 3, 2017 13:29:12 GMT
John Kayes and Stuart Harding (Uncle Alberts brother) did the whole Sabadell organisation last year and did it on a package deal basis, so that flights, transfers, hotels etc etc were done in a complete deal. It resulted in about 600 of us going over and Sabadell were delighted with the whole event. If the club want to do it themselves this time I'm glad Peter Parker feels they will be able to do it. I hope they fare better than this years shirts debacle. It seems the club haven't asked JK and SH helping out with this as they have not been asked to. I know because I was with JK yesterday, and he told me that he has not been asked by the club to help, but will be happy to give them the benefit of what he learnt about arranging the last one. In fact I think he was relieved not to do it this time, as it almost took over his life for months. Remember, the fans were all flown to Gerona (in JKs deal) then bussed to the hotel in Santa Susanna then bussed to the game on the day and back to Santa Susanna for a few more days, before then being bussed back to the airport for the flight home. The players were flown direct to a Barcelona and put up in a top notch country hotel which the club were delighted with, all at no cost to our club. Will the club do it on the same basis or will we be left to organise ourselves individually? Time will tell, but if most of the arrangements are to be done for ourselves, then I feel we won't get half as many there next time. It certainly must've been pretty headache-inducing to plan all that out. Can I ask what the all-in cost was for the travel / hotel / game tickets?
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