|
Post by bluebeard on Jan 4, 2017 12:15:08 GMT
I find it interesting that people are either blaming the UWE or Wael, Maybe the hold up is with the planning authority ? We have been told that finance isn't a problem and we know that a feasibility study has been commissioned to ensure the figures stack up. In order to get a financial return that satisfies both the club and external investors, the development will need to generate a certain level of non match day income. So, perhaps you're right - flats, a hotel or retail outlets might be part of the revised plan. But if an amended application had been submitted, wouldn't it be in the public domain?
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 12:56:00 GMT
If we are a couple of weeks away from an announcement then how can this statement posted by Gasincider yesterday still be correct? "Now UWE want almost twice as much apparently. What would you call them?" Either UWE don't want double (£16m for the land) or we're nowhere near an announcement, unless that is Wael's found an extra £8m in his Xmas stocking to bridge the gap! Gasincider recieved his information after the millwall game, it's possible there has been further developments since then and both the club and uwe have come to an agreement. I think it's unlikely that Oldgas or gasincider are lying. I'm not a mind reader, given it was posted yesterday in response to the OP I assumed it was fairly up to date info, anyway it's good to see so many posters are ITK as I assumed Wael/SH were keeping their cards close to their chests. Not sure where the suggestion somebody is lying came from as that's not a word I ever use on the forum. Anyway I look forward to the formal announcement later this month which will finally bring this saga to an end.
|
|
|
Post by baggins on Jan 4, 2017 13:40:52 GMT
Gasincider recieved his information after the millwall game, it's possible there has been further developments since then and both the club and uwe have come to an agreement. I think it's unlikely that Oldgas or gasincider are lying. I'm not a mind reader, given it was posted yesterday in response to the OP I assumed it was fairly up to date info, anyway it's good to see so many posters are ITK as I assumed Wael/SH were keeping their cards close to their chests. Not sure where the suggestion somebody is lying came from as that's not a word I ever use on the forum. Anyway I look forward to the formal announcement later this month which will finally bring this saga to an end. It won't.
|
|
|
Post by aghast on Jan 4, 2017 14:09:22 GMT
I'm not a mind reader, given it was posted yesterday in response to the OP I assumed it was fairly up to date info, anyway it's good to see so many posters are ITK as I assumed Wael/SH were keeping their cards close to their chests. Not sure where the suggestion somebody is lying came from as that's not a word I ever use on the forum. Anyway I look forward to the formal announcement later this month which will finally bring this saga to an end. It won't. Yep, all this is just the appetiser. The main course will be a monster.
|
|
|
Post by baggins on Jan 4, 2017 14:12:32 GMT
Yep, all this is just the appetiser. The main course will be a monster. Roasties? Gravy?
|
|
|
Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 15:12:14 GMT
Gasincider recieved his information after the millwall game, it's possible there has been further developments since then and both the club and uwe have come to an agreement. I think it's unlikely that Oldgas or gasincider are lying. I'm not a mind reader, given it was posted yesterday in response to the OP I assumed it was fairly up to date info, anyway it's good to see so many posters are ITK as I assumed Wael/SH were keeping their cards close to their chests. Not sure where the suggestion somebody is lying came from as that's not a word I ever use on the forum. Anyway I look forward to the formal announcement later this month which will finally bring this saga to an end. I assume your use of the BS either stands for bullshit or lies, or brilliantly sound (info). I'll leave you to clarify. Topper, you live on here, so you better than anyone know I have posted on several occasions that Wael spoke to me and others at Millwall. Please dont BS.
|
|
|
Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 15:15:47 GMT
Do elaborate why someone is talking BS? Obviously UWE now want something more or the deal would already be done. Has SH at anytime denied UWE don't want double whatever the notional price of the land was in the NH deal? Has SH or Wael said we won't be paying the new price? Has gasincider said that UWE won't negotiate on the land cost? You obviously know who is telling BS so can you confirm who it is please? I'm not sure where this assumption has come from that UWE want a new price. I know it has been mentioned on here by those apparently ITK but I don't think it has been confirmed by anyone at the club. It is possible that the deal we originally had just wasn't a very good one and the new owners aren't willing to pay the price that NH originally negotiated. That is no fault of the UWE though if that's the case. The reason I know is because Wael said so at Millwall.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 16:37:40 GMT
I'm not a mind reader, given it was posted yesterday in response to the OP I assumed it was fairly up to date info, anyway it's good to see so many posters are ITK as I assumed Wael/SH were keeping their cards close to their chests. Not sure where the suggestion somebody is lying came from as that's not a word I ever use on the forum. Anyway I look forward to the formal announcement later this month which will finally bring this saga to an end. I assume your use of the BS either stands for bullshit or lies, or brilliantly sound (info). I'll leave you to clarify. Topper, you live on here, so you better than anyone know I have posted on several occasions that Wael spoke to me and others at Millwall. Please dont BS. Your inference yesterday was that the UWE were still holding out for £16m, there was no suggestion this was old news, here's the full post: "Three potential sites have been mentioned by S Gloucs, but the probable most likely one is off the ring road near Emersons Green by the Sainsbury's (it would be) depot. The club didn't find this (UWE) site. UWE approached Rovers. Its not a joint venture , it will be wholly owned by Rovers. UWE wanted the land to be leased, but we want ownership of the site. The cost was to be covered by naming rights in favour of UWE. Approx £8m each way. Now UWE want almost twice as much apparently. What would you call them?
Now we come to what SH has supposedly said to a Gashead on the train yesterday. Fingers crossed" Clearly the highlighted sentence should have read "The last I heard before Christmas was... rather than "Now UWE...." hence the confusion (for me).
|
|
|
Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 18:39:42 GMT
Sorry Topper, I'll get you to proof read my posts in future. Dearie dearie me.
All I was doing was trying to answer someone who asked a few sensible questions. I'll leave it for you in future.
|
|
|
Post by stigofthegas on Jan 6, 2017 20:43:48 GMT
If we are a couple of weeks away from an announcement then how can this statement posted by Gasincider yesterday still be correct? "Now UWE want almost twice as much apparently. What would you call them?" Either UWE don't want double (£16m for the land) or we're nowhere near an announcement, unless that is Wael's found an extra £8m in his Xmas stocking to bridge the gap! Just catching up on this thread - what a rediculous argument to suggest someone MUST be lying. Grow up - that's they way my teenage daughter and her bitchy friends behave.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 6, 2017 20:57:40 GMT
If we are a couple of weeks away from an announcement then how can this statement posted by Gasincider yesterday still be correct? "Now UWE want almost twice as much apparently. What would you call them?" Either UWE don't want double (£16m for the land) or we're nowhere near an announcement, unless that is Wael's found an extra £8m in his Xmas stocking to bridge the gap! Just catching up on this thread - what a rediculous argument to suggest someone MUST be lying. Grow up - that's they way my teenage daughter and her bitchy friends behave. If your going to make an incorrect statement at least use spell checker when you make it.
|
|
|
Post by Okebournegas on Jan 6, 2017 21:18:24 GMT
Just catching up on this thread - what a rediculous argument to suggest someone MUST be lying. Grow up - that's they way my teenage daughter and her bitchy friends behave. If your going to make an incorrect statement at least use spell checker when you make it. Spell check yourself before you wreck yourself !
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 6, 2017 21:25:47 GMT
LOL spellchecker thought it was correct!
|
|
|
Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 6, 2017 23:14:16 GMT
Talk of an announcement in the next couple of weeks is fanciful. Both parties are a long way from a deal being done.
|
|
|
Post by Severncider on Jan 7, 2017 2:11:28 GMT
LOL spellchecker thought it was correct! Topper why do you not do us all a favour and give it a rest for a week.
It is really not necessary to answer EVERY thread unless you wish to get to 10,000 messages by the end of this year.
|
|
|
Post by yategas78 on Jan 7, 2017 7:56:08 GMT
What ever happens we will hear officially from the Club when they have something to a announce! We don't wanna get too hung up on the UWE again do we? let's concentrate on the playing side for now !
|
|
|
Post by oldgas on Jan 7, 2017 8:18:31 GMT
What ever happens we will hear officially from the Club when they have something to a announce! We don't wanna get too hung up on the UWE again do we? let's concentrate on the playing side for now ! Quite agree. I only reported to the forum exactly what the Chairman told me. I asked the the question in a way and manner which gave him the opportunity to give a non-committed reply. Unless he is a he sort of person who gets a kick out of laying red herrings, sending people on a wild goose chase (feel free to add any other similes you can think of) then I can only assume he is confident in the time - frame he volunteered. The most important thing is 3 points this afternoon, to put the Charlton debacle to bed.
|
|
|
Post by bluegashead on Jan 7, 2017 10:48:26 GMT
What ever happens we will hear officially from the Club when they have something to a announce! We don't wanna get too hung up on the UWE again do we? let's concentrate on the playing side for now ! Quite agree. I only reported to the forum exactly what the Chairman told me. I asked the the question in a way and manner which gave him the opportunity to give a non-committed reply. Unless he is a he sort of person who gets a kick out of laying red herrings, sending people on a wild goose chase (feel free to add any other similes you can think of) then I can only assume he is confident in the time - frame he volunteered. The most important thing is 3 points this afternoon, to put the Charlton debacle to bed. old gas did he make you feel a bit more confident after speaking to him though?
|
|
|
Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 7, 2017 11:12:51 GMT
If uwe don't move from what they are asking for the land there will be no deal.
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 7, 2017 11:15:24 GMT
If uwe don't move from what they are asking for the land there will be no deal. Think you will find we have moved past that point now
|
|