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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 15:34:37 GMT
Errrrr - bang wrong I am afraid. Alex Ferguson was pretty much the first manager to bring in squad rotation. It's a defining characteristic of Ferguson for goodness sake. Liverpool in 2005 didn't have a first X11, as for shankly era to be honest, football was so ametuer then by definition very, very little is applicable today. Ferguson picked a settled 11, perhaps maybe the first season they won only. The fact scholes and giggs et al went on forever - were they in that first 11 for twenty years, game in, game out? No! So you must be keyboard slain for such ignorance! Did any of them ever make SIX changes in a competitive game ? I don't know
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 16:27:33 GMT
Did any of them ever make SIX changes in a competitive game ? I don't know Arsenal apparently made 4 last night
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Post by Gashead51 on Jan 4, 2017 16:47:09 GMT
Arsenal apparently made 4 last night Premiership clubs have quality in depth, we don't have that luxury, even at League 1 level. In my earlier comment I was merely questioning the total change of the midfield four with no creative or forward thinking player. No Lines, Clarke or Colkett. Who was supposed to open up the opposing defence in that line up?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 16:58:27 GMT
How can any sane Rovers supporter take the ramblings on here seriously? One and a half years as a football league manager and Darrel has one promotion and Rovers in mid table. The man has worked miracles since taking over,his record tells us that. But he is also a bit 'uncoufe' if you like,not your stereotype football manager. But we all know and accept that because he has dragged Rovers up by the scruff of its neck and restored some pride and passion in the club with two promotions and a future. Changes? There is a very good Black Sabbath song called Changes about a lost love. Look up and read the lyrics,they are quite apt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:07:30 GMT
How can any sane Rovers supporter take the ramblings on here seriously? One and a half years as a football league manager and Darrel has one promotion and Rovers in mid table. The man has worked miracles since taking over,his record tells us that. But he is also a bit 'uncoufe' if you like,not your stereotype football manager. But we all know and accept that because he has dragged Rovers up by the scruff of its neck and restored some pride and passion in the club with two promotions and a future. Changes? There is a very good Black Sabbath song called Changes about a lost love. Look up and read the lyrics,they are quite apt. I don't think that a record called "changes" is going to do much for those opposed to squad rotation.
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Post by bluegas on Jan 4, 2017 17:12:32 GMT
How can any sane Rovers supporter take the ramblings on here seriously? One and a half years as a football league manager and Darrel has one promotion and Rovers in mid table. The man has worked miracles since taking over,his record tells us that. But he is also a bit 'uncoufe' if you like,not your stereotype football manager. But we all know and accept that because he has dragged Rovers up by the scruff of its neck and restored some pride and passion in the club with two promotions and a future. Changes? There is a very good Black Sabbath song called Changes about a lost love. Look up and read the lyrics,they are quite apt. My thoughts, but look around you at the next home match. There'll be some twat gobbing off, trying to impress all around him with his erudite perception of the game. Why he ain't managing Barcelona or Real is beyond me, but there you go. A couple of crap games (which frankly I was expecting) & that's it - end of the world as we know it. You suspect these people have pretty sad lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:24:17 GMT
How can any sane Rovers supporter take the ramblings on here seriously? One and a half years as a football league manager and Darrel has one promotion and Rovers in mid table. The man has worked miracles since taking over,his record tells us that. But he is also a bit 'uncoufe' if you like,not your stereotype football manager. But we all know and accept that because he has dragged Rovers up by the scruff of its neck and restored some pride and passion in the club with two promotions and a future. Changes? There is a very good Black Sabbath song called Changes about a lost love. Look up and read the lyrics,they are quite apt. I don't think that a record called "changes" is going to do much for those opposed to squad rotation. But it might if they realise 'they lost the best manager, Rovers ever had' just to tweak the lyrics slightly. As for changes on the whole,we have had enough managerial changes to last us a lifetime these past few years so the more you think about 'changes' the more apt the word is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:27:35 GMT
How can any sane Rovers supporter take the ramblings on here seriously? One and a half years as a football league manager and Darrel has one promotion and Rovers in mid table. The man has worked miracles since taking over,his record tells us that. But he is also a bit 'uncoufe' if you like,not your stereotype football manager. But we all know and accept that because he has dragged Rovers up by the scruff of its neck and restored some pride and passion in the club with two promotions and a future. Changes? There is a very good Black Sabbath song called Changes about a lost love. Look up and read the lyrics,they are quite apt. My thoughts, but look around you at the next home match. There'll be some twat gobbing off, trying to impress all around him with his erudite perception of the game. Why he ain't managing Barcelona or Real is beyond me, but there you go. A couple of crap games (which frankly I was expecting) & that's it - end of the world as we know it. You suspect these people have pretty sad lives. I can't get my head around it. It was defensive errors that cost us not 'dads army'. Tom Lockyer name is hardly mentioned as fault by the experts either. Six points out of nine is a good Christmas return,more than these people were expecting as well truth told but there you go.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 4, 2017 17:46:48 GMT
It was the same defence that has made very similar mistakes all season-also the Managers fault but the point is that Charlton especially first half were not thatr good and quite possibly with the team from the previous game we may have gone more than one goal ahead. If we haven't got a new keeper and a tall centre half in by the weekend we will do well to get a result against Northampton but that is not to say we won't do it. Any Manager will know that it was a huge and stupid risk to change all six players in front of the back four taking into account the number of appearances they had made. A central midfield pairing of Mansell and Sinclair alone was going to cause problems because one would run out of steam covering for the other one who would have steam to spare but run all over the place leaving huge holes in the centre of midfield for the other to cover. DC showed totally his inexperience in that move and although the long term is not going to be affected by this result it is annoying to go so far and watch what was probably a team that would have struggled to beat a National League side on the day. I don't for one minute think we will go up this season or in fact really want us to go up this year-nice as it may be but with the right signings now it will help us finish higher and possibly have at least one play off game but more importantly slowly break up this squad which is not good enough to go up rather than have a complete clear out at the end of the season. For half an hour we held our own without too much trouble, apart from a free kick. Yes the same defence, who were more than adequate 48 hours earlier against Wimbledon, have made similar mistakes - why is this DC's fault? Should he have made more changes ? Who MM, who hasn't played all season? We need a better defence, DC has said this for a while now, but I agree with him he should only get the players he wants & fits the bill as far as the team is concerned, until then this is what we have. We all know DC is only in his second season as a league manager, so why do you seem surprised by his inexperience? I went to Charlton, but don't make too many away games nowadays, it was shocking defending that cost us & nothing else,but that's life. If it was like following us when the likes of Graydon,McGhee & Buckle managed us in L2 then I could understand the meltdown. As your comment about Northampton proves its easy to manage the club from behind a keyboard, talk about edging your bets! It seems like DC is dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 18:17:18 GMT
I don't think that a record called "changes" is going to do much for those opposed to squad rotation. But it might if they realise 'they lost the best manager, Rovers ever had' just to tweak the lyrics slightly. As for changes on the whole,we have had enough managerial changes to last us a lifetime these past few years so the more you think about 'changes' the more apt the word is. [. Black sabbath? Here's one for the "Clarke out" brigade: Finished with our gaffer cause he couldn't pick a settled side. Gasheads think I'm insane because I am moaning all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 18:59:07 GMT
But it might if they realise 'they lost the best manager, Rovers ever had' just to tweak the lyrics slightly. As for changes on the whole,we have had enough managerial changes to last us a lifetime these past few years so the more you think about 'changes' the more apt the word is. [. Black sabbath? Here's one for the "Clarke out" brigade: Finished with our gaffer cause he couldn't pick a settled side. Gasheads think I'm insane because I am moaning all the time. Darrell 'ozzy' Clarke....all day long I think of things (formations) but NOTHING seems to Satisfy think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify(the moaning bar stewards).. Can you help me occupy my brain..O f**king yea!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 19:05:10 GMT
[. Black sabbath? Here's one for the "Clarke out" brigade: Finished with our gaffer cause he couldn't pick a settled side. Gasheads think I'm insane because I am moaning all the time. Darrell 'ozzy' Clarke....all day long I think of things (formations) but NOTHING seems to Satisfy think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify(the moaning bar stewards).. Can you help me occupy my brain..O f**king yea! Gas pigs gathered in their masses, Just like pitches with crossfield passes Evil swines who plot destruction Breakers down of Clarkes construction
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 19:25:18 GMT
Darrell 'ozzy' Clarke....all day long I think of things (formations) but NOTHING seems to Satisfy think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify(the moaning bar stewards).. Can you help me occupy my brain..O f**king yea! Gas pigs gathered in their masses, Just like pitches with crossfield passes Evil swines who plot destruction Breakers down of Clarkes construction Very good.. In the field the squad is burning As the moaning machine keeps turning Death and hatred to DC and his kind(it's only lyrics) For poisoning brainwashed minds..O Lord Yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 19:32:41 GMT
Get a room
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 19:34:36 GMT
Gas pigs gathered in their masses, Just like pitches with crossfield passes Evil swines who plot destruction Breakers down of Clarkes construction Very good.. In the field the squad is burning As the moaning machine keeps turning Death and hatred to DC and his kind(it's only lyrics) For poisoning brainwashed minds..O Lord Yeah. Dumdum - dum dum duuuum dum! Brilliant tune. I reckon the faith no more cover is as good as Ozzy's though!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 4, 2017 20:04:39 GMT
Very good.. In the field the squad is burning As the moaning machine keeps turning Death and hatred to DC and his kind(it's only lyrics) For poisoning brainwashed minds..O Lord Yeah. Dumdum - dum dum duuuum dum! Brilliant tune. I reckon the faith no more cover is as good as Ozzy's though! Saw Sabbath back in 1998 at Ozzfest. Had some, ahem, refreshments at the beginning of the day and have no memory of any of the other acts having passed out around the edge of the amphitheatre. I was awoken by the intro to the song 'Black Sabbath' and it felt, weirdly, like a religious experience! Probably partially because of my intoxication-inspired resurrection, this was one of the best gigs I have ever seen. Off to see them again later this month with a little trepidation partly due to the band having aged and partly because I have aged
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 20:09:55 GMT
Dumdum - dum dum duuuum dum! Brilliant tune. I reckon the faith no more cover is as good as Ozzy's though! Saw Sabbath back in 1997 at Ozzfest. Had some, ahem, refreshments at the beginning of the day and have no memory of any of the other acts having passed out around the edge of the amphitheatre. I was awoken by the intro to the song 'Black Sabbath' and it felt, weirdly, like a religious experience! Probably partially because of my intoxication-inspired resurrection, this was one of the best gigs I have ever seen. Off to see them again later this month with a little trepidation partly due to the band having aged and partly because I have aged That sounds like an epic experience. Like an intro to a rock movie! I once observed a man turn into a fruit machine then reassemble as a human being before disappearing on "refreshments" once. Got to love those tea and biscuits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 22:30:27 GMT
Very good.. In the field the squad is burning As the moaning machine keeps turning Death and hatred to DC and his kind(it's only lyrics) For poisoning brainwashed minds..O Lord Yeah. Dumdum - dum dum duuuum dum! Brilliant tune. I reckon the faith no more cover is as good as Ozzy's though Fair enough shout mate but Ozzy and Sabbath are the dogs. Just like DC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 11:32:24 GMT
Who are these 'Ozzy' and 'Sabbath' characters? Are they C&W artists?
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Post by baggins on Jan 5, 2017 12:34:16 GMT
Who are these 'Ozzy' and 'Sabbath' characters? Are they C&W artists? They're like a quiter version of John Denver. Turn the volume up and give it a go.
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