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Post by haddock_n_chips on Jan 18, 2017 22:26:06 GMT
This is an interesting signing for us
To me it stinks of a non DC signing, by this i mean it was a "s*it get someone in quick" situation and DC's 1st/2nd/3rd option all fell through. Possibly someone just recommended to the club through another link (Will Dubey? A N Other Scout) probably not on DC's radar
However, whilst this may or may not be the case, we cannot write the guy off until he's had a chance.
We've had some decent players in on loan pre-DC (Logan, Andersen etc.) so why write off someone that hasn't even been given an opportunity. Look at Jack Butland who was on loan at Charlton whilst still "unproven" or Harry Kane at Orient even, and I hate to admit it!, Tammy Abraham at the s*it
You never know we may be sitting with a gem of a player, there is only one way to find out. Give him some time in training and with the team, then an opportunity at playing. He'll sink or swim we'll see over the next few months
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2017 22:26:25 GMT
Well, the forum is living up to one part or its name - the Gas bit. what a sh** storm over a sodding goalie. He's a Gashead now and he'll do his best and will be welcomed with open arms. Some truly bizarre logic on here at times. - Goalies with limited experience must be poor - so how did the greats ever get started? - If you go on loan and don't play you must be poor - oh, come on people, show some intelligence - using that logic Andy Bond is amazing because he played, whereas Oli BcBurnie must be gash because he hardly got a look-in with us - Young goalies are not what we need (oh, but BTW we don't want old ones either...) - We must get a permanent number 1 now in the January 'joke shop' window - Most teams have 3 keepers so who says Joe is definitely the last keeper coming into the building? he might well be, but with Mildy out and Puddy injury prone, Joe might not be the last in BTW - the lad may not have played many games but he had a game in the Championship at Blackburn in front of 12,000, and an FA Cup game at Notts Forest in front of 14,000, when QPR were rubbish (still are) It might not be much but at least he's been in front of big crowds / big grounds and felt that pressure , so shouldn't be too nervy. Probably DC is sat at home thinking exactly the same, sadly, recent history suggests all our concerns will be proven right. I can't recall you or any other posting posting on here recently that they hoped DC signed another inexperienced young goalie as Nicholls & Roos were so good for us in goal. Our problem is Locks & co are so nervy they seem to need somebody like Mildenhall to calm them down. There must be a reason why experienced goalies are so in demand that DC can't seem to sign one.
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Post by DTGas on Jan 18, 2017 22:29:10 GMT
f**k me there's been some absolute bollocks posted on here.Lee Nichols played a major part in getting Northampton to the league2 play-off final and Kelle Roos played a similar role in Wimbledons promotion last season.The supporters loved them and would have been delighted to retain them.We signed up these keepers because they were proven to be bloody good at that time and I can't recall anyone on here protesting how sh** they were,can anybody else?Yes,they both ended up being f**king disasters with us but hindsight is a magical thing for the football fan and dulls the memories of the pre signing days.Maybe,just maybe,Joe Lumley without a gold star from earlier loans will prove to be the best of the lot,then go elsewhere next year and be sh** for his new team! Football is great innit. I think your missing the point. The reason most are underwhelmed and slightly annoyed by this is because we seem to be stuck on a goalkeeper merry-go-round of failed loans. Why not just invest in a decent permanent keeper like most other clubs instead of constantly relying on other clubs to lend us their young, untested youth players.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jan 18, 2017 22:30:59 GMT
And there I was thinking that I was going to be drooling over purdy between my sticks
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 18, 2017 22:36:18 GMT
Well, the forum is living up to one part or its name - the Gas bit. what a sh** storm over a sodding goalie. He's a Gashead now and he'll do his best and will be welcomed with open arms. Some truly bizarre logic on here at times. - Goalies with limited experience must be poor - so how did the greats ever get started? - If you go on loan and don't play you must be poor - oh, come on people, show some intelligence - using that logic Andy Bond is amazing because he played, whereas Oli BcBurnie must be gash because he hardly got a look-in with us - Young goalies are not what we need (oh, but BTW we don't want old ones either...) - We must get a permanent number 1 now in the January 'joke shop' window - Most teams have 3 keepers so who says Joe is definitely the last keeper coming into the building? he might well be, but with Mildy out and Puddy injury prone, Joe might not be the last in BTW - the lad may not have played many games but he had a game in the Championship at Blackburn in front of 12,000, and an FA Cup game at Notts Forest in front of 14,000, when QPR were rubbish (still are) It might not be much but at least he's been in front of big crowds / big grounds and felt that pressure , so shouldn't be too nervy. Probably DC is sat at home thinking exactly the same, sadly, recent history suggests all our concerns will be proven right. I can't recall you or any other posting posting on here recently that they hoped DC signed another inexperienced young goalie as Nicholls & Roos were so good for us in goal. Our problem is Locks & co are so nervy they seem to need somebody like Mildenhall to calm them down. There must be a reason why experienced goalies are so in demand that DC can't seem to sign one. Not suggesting it's what we wanted but 1) negativity helps no-one 2) judge the lad on playing time 3) it's 18th Jan - when does the window close? 4) Locks and co need MACCA or someone similar, not necessarily an experienced goalie. Centre backs control the defence more than the goalie. sadly macca is not guaranteed a place on his ability/pace/height.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2017 22:38:56 GMT
Absolutely fabulous!
In all seriousness I am very underwhelmed by this signing and I'm not one to criticse DC but suspect he has made a mistake here. A goalkeeper is not a position you take a risk on a 2q year old loanee IMO. Wish him all the best however.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 22:45:27 GMT
Another bench warmer I'm afraid
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Post by lmgas on Jan 18, 2017 23:21:53 GMT
Same all over again, anyone else remember we did this before, some 21 year old kiddy called Fraser Forster, will we never learn?
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Post by madgas on Jan 18, 2017 23:25:33 GMT
What's going on?
Some were almost giddy when we got an Italian on trial. Now this lumley fella ain't up to it?
For me- this signing works. It's clearly a try before you buy scenario. We were never gonna splash out silly money in January. Roos didn't work out perhaps this will.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 23:28:07 GMT
Another bench warmer I'm afraid Well he does have to earn his first team place like all the other newcomers, or at least that's what I kept hearing. Saying that I always say only get a loan player in if they are better than what you have, and there is a very good chance he is better than Puddy.
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Post by madgas on Jan 18, 2017 23:30:50 GMT
People wound up about failed loans?
Why?
Failed loans are better than failed full signings.
There's no obvious solution to this without chucking money at it. 9th in league 1. That's not the time to go gun ho.
Patience girls and boys. We're starting to sound like the Sh1!heads here
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 19, 2017 0:30:13 GMT
Underwhelming. The one position we need someone permanent, someone solid and experienced. We get someone on paper who is lesser than those who came before him.
He could turn out to be the next Nigel Martyn. Yep. But chances are he'll be another player who's making up the bench whilst we rue could have beens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 1:02:14 GMT
Tenth signing of the season,seventh loan,none of the 1st 8 signings improved the team although clarke-salter looked equal to hartley and lockyear. Now we have partington and lumley,very big ask for a very young keeper with no experience to play behind a defence badly lacking in confidence but maybe hes just cover in case puddy gets injured?
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Post by roosty56 on Jan 19, 2017 7:56:27 GMT
Little disappointed in not trying to find a goalkeeper who would have slotted in as the automatic #1 spot. Because surely Puddy is not the answer?
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Post by oldgas on Jan 19, 2017 7:58:04 GMT
Announced this morning on R B that Lumley is likely to make his debut at Walsall on Saturday.
If he does, let's just get behind him.
UTG
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 19, 2017 8:12:16 GMT
Announced this morning on R B that Lumley is likely to make his debut at Walsall on Saturday. If he does, let's just get behind him. UTG Good idea. Get him to stand on the penalty spot, while 1,000 Gasheads wedge themselves into the net.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 19, 2017 8:38:32 GMT
Announced this morning on R B that Lumley is likely to make his debut at Walsall on Saturday. If he does, let's just get behind him. UTG Think everyone wants him to do well, it's just some of us thought we needed an experienced keeper in to sort and command our leaky defence, now he's here all the fans will support and encourage him, he's even got a ready made song, "so lumley" by the police.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:43:56 GMT
Why am i not surprised by this signing/loan
Best of luck lad i hope you do well, but i fear the worst with our current back 4
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Post by wiaww on Jan 19, 2017 8:44:37 GMT
Same all over again, anyone else remember we did this before, some 21 year old kiddy called Fraser Forster, will we never learn? Yeah, but to be fair FF was crap for us. It's all well and good signing keepers that are going to be good in the future but if we don't hold on to them what use is it to BRFC? Not sure if I'm underwhelmed by this signing so much as I'm confused. An experienced, proven keeper seemed nailed on this window. I'm hoping that JL has come in as cover...to whoever will be coming in as No. 1. Will Puddy simply should not be anywhere near the first team.
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Post by wiaww on Jan 19, 2017 8:49:54 GMT
People wound up about failed loans? Why? Failed loans are better than failed full signings. There's no obvious solution to this without chucking money at it. 9th in league 1. That's not the time to go gun ho. Patience girls and boys. We're starting to sound like the Sh1!heads here But surely a goalkeeper is the one position where you can't afford to be thrifty, regardless of whether you plan on finishing first or one point above twenty-first.
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