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Post by Henbury Gas on May 1, 2017 16:38:06 GMT
Just watched the Mansell Video on the main site and he said because the budget is tight next season he could not do the player/coach roll he discussed with DC earlier in the season, but is happy with his new roll offered
Makes you think that the budget is a bit tight again maybe ?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 16:51:39 GMT
I'm sure if DC wasn't confident in the owners and thought there wasn't a sufficient playing budget he would already been off IMO Plenty of time for that, not many decent jobs available....yet.
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 1, 2017 16:53:56 GMT
Just watched the Mansell Video on the main site and he said because the budget is tight next season he could not do the player/coach roll he discussed with DC earlier in the season, but is happy with his new roll offered Makes you think that the budget is a bit tight again maybe ? Pretty sure DC said the budget is being discussed mid May.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 1, 2017 17:06:42 GMT
Time for WAQ to give DC a top 6 budget. DC has made it perfectly clear in setting out his stall in the local media that he wants a competitive budget, which in my opinion he has truly earned, with increased attendances and back to back promotions, with little or no meaningful investment in the team; if Hamer comes out with his "evolution not revolution" business speak, then I guess the vultures will circle and entice DC off to one of the bigger championship clubs. We need to stop thinking and acting like a small club and start to get serious and really compete, otherwise that average attendance that's been built up over the last 2 years will soon have a six at the start again.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 1, 2017 18:06:16 GMT
Time for WAQ to give DC a top 6 budget. DC has made it perfectly clear in setting out his stall in the local media that he wants a competitive budget, which in my opinion he has truly earned, with increased attendances and back to back promotions, with little or no meaningful investment in the team; if Hamer comes out with his "evolution not revolution" business speak, then I guess the vultures will circle and entice DC off to one of the bigger championship clubs. We need to stop thinking and acting like a small club and start to get serious and really compete, otherwise that average attendance that's been built up over the last 2 years will soon have a six at the start again. We're gonna need a bigger tent. Oh, you meant 6,000.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 18:24:48 GMT
Time for WAQ to give DC a top 6 budget. DC has made it perfectly clear in setting out his stall in the local media that he wants a competitive budget, which in my opinion he has truly earned, with increased attendances and back to back promotions, with little or no meaningful investment in the team; if Hamer comes out with his "evolution not revolution" business speak, then I guess the vultures will circle and entice DC off to one of the bigger championship clubs. We need to stop thinking and acting like a small club and start to get serious and really compete, otherwise that average attendance that's been built up over the last 2 years will soon have a six at the start again. Being realistic we are a small club. In 2016 our total income was less than £5 million compare that to the wage bill of an average Championship club of over £20 million.
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Post by Severncider on May 1, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
Just watched the Mansell Video on the main site and he said because the budget is tight next season he could not do the player/coach roll he discussed with DC earlier in the season, but is happy with his new roll offered Makes you think that the budget is a bit tight again maybe ? Perhaps we get a better picture tomorrow night from the Owner, Chairman and DC.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 1, 2017 18:59:23 GMT
Just watched the Mansell Video on the main site and he said because the budget is tight next season he could not do the player/coach roll he discussed with DC earlier in the season, but is happy with his new roll offered Makes you think that the budget is a bit tight again maybe ? Perhaps we get a better picture tomorrow night from the Owner, Chairman and DC. Do you think he will give you a direct answer to that question ? I think not
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 1, 2017 19:00:23 GMT
We need to stop thinking and acting like a small club and start to get serious and really compete, otherwise that average attendance that's been built up over the last 2 years will soon have a six at the start again. Being realistic we are a small club. In 2016 our total income was less than £5 million compare that to the wage bill of an average Championship club of over £20 million. We aren't a small club in this division, can't compare with the championship, TV revenue alone is worth 5m. Our budget is bottom 8 in a division where half the clubs average less than 5k
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Post by bluestone on May 1, 2017 19:27:45 GMT
Surely it doesn't have to be Rubbish or bust.
The budget needs to be increased but with DC's ability I've no doubt he can continue to add value to the squad through the way he does things.
So in my mind to be top 6 we definitely need more than a bottom 6 budget but we don't necessarily need to break the bank by having a top 6 budget. Mid table budget + DC's magic = top 6 finish!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 19:38:37 GMT
I'm sure if DC wasn't confident in the owners and thought there wasn't a sufficient playing budget he would already been off IMO Plenty of time for that, not many decent jobs available....yet. He's under contract he can't just walk off.
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Post by syg on May 1, 2017 19:41:55 GMT
Both Lumley and Sweeney saying goodbye on Twitter.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 19:43:43 GMT
He's probably got a clause in his contract if any offers come along he would like
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Post by socrates on May 1, 2017 20:46:31 GMT
Surely it doesn't have to be Rubbish or bust. The budget needs to be increased but with DC's ability I've no doubt he can continue to add value to the squad through the way he does things. So in my mind to be top 6 we definitely need more than a bottom 6 budget but we don't necessarily need to break the bank by having a top 6 budget. Mid table budget + DC's magic = top 6 finish! I see it this way too. Burton have shown that a well run club with a small budget can survive in the championship. They have spent on players but they haven't spent millions on signings I think they paid £300,000 on one player in the summer and similar amounts on a couple of others which I think we should be able to do if we can continue to get gates of 9000 +. Our player of the season didn't cost us anything neither did Taylor and I'm pretty sure Bodin didn't cost us anything either so if we can continue to bring players of that quality in to the club and make a handful of signings to bolster it then promotion is definitely possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 20:56:00 GMT
Being realistic we are a small club. In 2016 our total income was less than £5 million compare that to the wage bill of an average Championship club of over £20 million. We aren't a small club in this division, can't compare with the championship, TV revenue alone is worth 5m. Our budget is bottom 8 in a division where half the clubs average less than 5k I don't think we will be a top 6 club in terms of total income next year, in 2014 the average income in league 1 was £6.0 m and in 2015 it was £5.2 m (average obviously depends on clubs in division) so I'd guess we might be just about an average club in terms of income at next season. Gate receipts are only part of the story in terms of club finances so just because we have a top 6 attendance (just) does not mean we are top 6 in terms of income. See www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/annual-review-of-football-finance.html
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Post by Topper Gas on May 1, 2017 21:02:37 GMT
Surely it doesn't have to be Rubbish or bust. The budget needs to be increased but with DC's ability I've no doubt he can continue to add value to the squad through the way he does things. So in my mind to be top 6 we definitely need more than a bottom 6 budget but we don't necessarily need to break the bank by having a top 6 budget. Mid table budget + DC's magic = top 6 finish! I see it this way too. Burton have shown that a well run club with a small budget can survive in the championship. They have spent on players but they haven't spent millions on signings I think they paid £300,000 on one player in the summer and similar amounts on a couple of others which I think we should be able to do if we can continue to get gates of 9000 +. Our player of the season didn't cost us anything neither did Taylor and I'm pretty sure Bodin didn't cost us anything either so if we can continue to bring players of that quality in to the club and make a handful of signings to bolster it then promotion is definitely possible. That's virtually a £1m on transfer fees plus signing on fees/wages all against a back drop of a club either just breaking even or still running at a loss, where's the extra £1-2m going to come from? It seems the club either accepts losses will be extra £1-2m p.a. or Wael meets those losses personally, but there's been no suggestion he can or will do that. As far as the club over achieving doesn't that already apply to the likes of Scunthorpe, Rochdale and Oxford? With MK Dons and Charlton plus possibly P'boro underachieving?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 21:06:58 GMT
Surely it doesn't have to be Rubbish or bust. The budget needs to be increased but with DC's ability I've no doubt he can continue to add value to the squad through the way he does things. So in my mind to be top 6 we definitely need more than a bottom 6 budget but we don't necessarily need to break the bank by having a top 6 budget. Mid table budget + DC's magic = top 6 finish! I see it this way too. Burton have shown that a well run club with a small budget can survive in the championship. They have spent on players but they haven't spent millions on signings I think they paid £300,000 on one player in the summer and similar amounts on a couple of others which I think we should be able to do if we can continue to get gates of 9000 +. Our player of the season didn't cost us anything neither did Taylor and I'm pretty sure Bodin didn't cost us anything either so if we can continue to bring players of that quality in to the club and make a handful of signings to bolster it then promotion is definitely possible. Burton Albion had an income of £4.2 m in 2016 and ours was £4.7 so clubs with less income than us can get promotion, and we both spent about the same on wages in 2016.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 21:18:36 GMT
I don't see the owners suddenly throwing lots of cash at the first team squad. For one, there is no evidence so far that DC can manage a big budget team well. I suspect the budget will be higher than this season . However as the stadium is not concrete yet it would be irresponsible to spend a fortune on the squad with only a future at the mem to finance it. DC has mentioned they are changing the way they recruit players so this might lead to better signings {?} If money is spent on transfers it will most likely go on a solid no nonsense centreback and a striker. Don't expect millions though !
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 21:39:04 GMT
I don't see the owners suddenly throwing lots of cash at the first team squad. For one, there is no evidence so far that DC can manage a big budget team well. I suspect the budget will be higher than this season . However as the stadium is not concrete yet it would be irresponsible to spend a fortune on the squad with only a future at the mem to finance it. DC has mentioned they are changing the way they recruit players so this might lead to better signings {?} If money is spent on transfers it will most likely go on a solid no nonsense centreback and a striker. Don't expect millions though ! Exactly how I see it as well...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 22:09:58 GMT
I think many clubs with lower attendances than us make more money,ie like fleetwood or walsall. I thought that was why we needed a new ground,partly so we can make more money aside from matchdays? I havnt read any detail on ffp as its a bit boring so dont really know just wondered if it was an issue for brfc. This 1 page explanation of the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP) is informative. www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.phpThe main points being: In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages. Crucially, the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing club debts. Thanks for that,,,,,,,,,,,this means wael could in theory loan rovers £1m and it wouldnt count against us on ffp rules i think?
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