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Post by socrates on Oct 31, 2017 7:29:34 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 31, 2017 9:53:49 GMT
Probably the most predictable sacking before a ball had been kicked. Would much rather DCs patient approach even if we do miss out on dome targets if this is the alternative.
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 31, 2017 10:27:34 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Agreed, can we all finally agree on this, instead of demanding loads of new players at every transfer window?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 10:55:19 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 31, 2017 10:56:32 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Agreed, can we all finally agree on this, instead of demanding loads of new players at every transfer window? Yet if we don't sign 5 players by July 1st 2018 I guarantee we will be having the same conversations then.
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Post by peterparker on Oct 31, 2017 11:06:43 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall and Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. I think Mildenhall was carrying that injury a lot longer than any of us knew and thats why DC didnt 'trust' him. I dont think he would/could have played 50 games if we wanted him too. Mildy cant be too upset as he is still employed as part of DCs staff. Perhaps the two most important people involved know the truth and thats all that matters, not the perception of any fans As for Easter. Maybe he could have done a job for us, but interesting to see he has retired. Probably bacause Newport cant afford him or dont want him and he has no intention of playing just anywhere.
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Post by socrates on Oct 31, 2017 11:08:01 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. It’s not a sweeping statement the players are constantly on about what a great bunch we’ve got and how morale is high and as for signings like I’ve said the majority of our squad have been brought in by DC and we’ve improved year on year with him in charge.
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 31, 2017 13:00:13 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. Its disgusting for a football manager to prefer some players over others?
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Post by rambo on Oct 31, 2017 13:41:01 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. Slocombe and Smith look decent. Bola looks decent and finally competition for Brown. Broadbent who has never kicked a ball in professional football before has settled in well. Sercombe arguably been our best CM this season. Nichols - jury still out, poor goals record but good all round play and hopefully will now kick on. Telford hasn't played enough but looks ok. I think he needed to buy a couple of leaders and hasn't done that but I can't see his recruitment lately has been 'crappy'. It is actually the trusted old guard of Lockyer, O Clarke, Lines, Brown and Leadbitter who have struggled this season. And Sweeney who looks half the player he was last season. Anyway, this team is DC's, he recruited all of them and those that he didn't, he chose to keep. That team is currently 4 points off the playoffs in league 1 and quite probably would be a point or 3 closer had our best player not got injured so not sure how you van criticise recruitment too much
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 13:51:50 GMT
Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. Its disgusting for a football manager to prefer some players over others? Nothing to do with that!
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 31, 2017 14:19:51 GMT
Don't agree with these sweeping statements. DC's recruitment of late has been pretty crappy - the structure of the team at the moment is completely unbalanced despite spending the best part of £500k in the close season. I'm not sure morale was that brilliant last season particularly with the way he handled Mildenhall & Easter - frankly disgusting particularly with SM when perservering with the two clowns Roos and Puddy over hiim. How do you know morale is right - some of the performances this season might just suggest something different. Slocombe and Smith look decent. Bola looks decent and finally competition for Brown. Broadbent who has never kicked a ball in professional football before has settled in well. Sercombe arguably been our best CM this season. Nichols - jury still out, poor goals record but good all round play and hopefully will now kick on. Telford hasn't played enough but looks ok. I think he needed to buy a couple of leaders and hasn't done that but I can't see his recruitment lately has been 'crappy'. It is actually the trusted old guard of Lockyer, O Clarke, Lines, Brown and Leadbitter who have struggled this season. And Sweeney who looks half the player he was last season. Anyway, this team is DC's, he recruited all of them and those that he didn't, he chose to keep. That team is currently 4 points off the playoffs in league 1 and quite probably would be a point or 3 closer had our best player not got injured so not sure how you van criticise recruitment too much Yep, also £500k (if it was that much) is sod all - it's bang average in League 1. Finally, he said himself that there was some targets that he wasn't able to get.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2017 16:24:39 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. No socrates it doesn’t surprise me either. I also like the way DC does things and the way he builds his squads. By keeping most of the team he wants from previous years he has been able to build gradually in 2015, 2016 and 2017 and avoid sweeping changes like Bury and many others we’ve been competing with over this time have done. Doing it this way is probably too unexciting for some fans who want to be entertained by the club splashing out on a new squad each year but I like it. But doing it gradually requires the manager to be fully trusted by the owners because if the recruitment isn’t spot on then he lays himself open to criticism but I guess DC knows that he has earned everyone’s trust to be able to do it his way. Clark at Bury splashed out on some quality players,some of whom have got injured, and thats placed him under pressure for immediate results. Not getting the results means a change and the next manager will also want his own players in next year, if he survives, another load of dosh to be spent... what a crazy system and from bitter experience we know where that can lead. I guess the other problem for someone like DC recruiting gradually and being very picky about who he signs is that if the players he signs don’t produce immediately he can look as if he hasn’t recruited well. So far this season his recruits have had an inconsistent time. I really like the players he’s got with Liam S, Joe P, Bola and the keepers looking ok. Obviously Tom N hasn’t scored as many as was expected but I still think he’ll come good and Rollin M and Tom B look good for the future. I think the way DC does things is a great fit for the way Rovers are and the finance we have available. We can’t do what many others do and spend lots of money, we have to do it gradually. Doing it graduallymeans he has to get the few signings he does right and I have presumed that DCs failure to sign wide playing players is because he’s wants to play a narrower game or wants to play with FBs creating the width when he wants to play with width. Blimey, 3 years ago in the Conference if someone had said to me that we would be consolidating in League 1 and some fans were moaning about not getting more exciting signings I would have torn their arm off for it! UTG!
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Post by socrates on Oct 31, 2017 18:02:07 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. No socrates it doesn’t surprise me either. I also like the way DC does things and the way he builds his squads. By keeping most of the team he wants from previous years he has been able to build gradually in 2015, 2016 and 2017 and avoid sweeping changes like Bury and many others we’ve been competing with over this time have done. Doing it this way is probably too unexciting for some fans who want to be entertained by the club splashing out on a new squad each year but I like it. But doing it gradually requires the manager to be fully trusted by the owners because if the recruitment isn’t spot on then he lays himself open to criticism but I guess DC knows that he has earned everyone’s trust to be able to do it his way. Clark at Bury splashed out on some quality players,some of whom have got injured, and thats placed him under pressure for immediate results. Not getting the results means a change and the next manager will also want his own players in next year, if he survives, another load of dosh to be spent... what a crazy system and from bitter experience we know where that can lead. I guess the other problem for someone like DC recruiting gradually and being very picky about who he signs is that if the players he signs don’t produce immediately he can look as if he hasn’t recruited well. So far this season his recruits have had an inconsistent time. I really like the players he’s got with Liam S, Joe P, Bola and the keepers looking ok. Obviously Tom N hasn’t scored as many as was expected but I still think he’ll come good and Rollin M and Tom B look good for the future. I think the way DC does things is a great fit for the way Rovers are and the finance we have available. We can’t do what many others do and spend lots of money, we have to do it gradually. Doing it graduallymeans he has to get the few signings he does right and I have presumed that DCs failure to sign wide playing players is because he’s wants to play a narrower game or wants to play with FBs creating the width when he wants to play with width. Blimey, 3 years ago in the Conference if someone had said to me that we would be consolidating in League 1 and some fans were moaning about not getting more exciting signings I would have torn their arm off for it! UTG! Great post and it could have been written in pretty much any of threads this season and would have been the perfect answer or summary.
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Post by garystash on Oct 31, 2017 18:36:42 GMT
I’m not surprised by this at all . It’s very rare that bringing loads of new players in all at once and throwing them together works. I personally like the way DC does things, just adds a few and moves on a few every season, small changes here and there ,it keeps the structure and the morale right. No socrates it doesn’t surprise me either. I also like the way DC does things and the way he builds his squads. By keeping most of the team he wants from previous years he has been able to build gradually in 2015, 2016 and 2017 and avoid sweeping changes like Bury and many others we’ve been competing with over this time have done. Doing it this way is probably too unexciting for some fans who want to be entertained by the club splashing out on a new squad each year but I like it. But doing it gradually requires the manager to be fully trusted by the owners because if the recruitment isn’t spot on then he lays himself open to criticism but I guess DC knows that he has earned everyone’s trust to be able to do it his way. Clark at Bury splashed out on some quality players,some of whom have got injured, and thats placed him under pressure for immediate results. Not getting the results means a change and the next manager will also want his own players in next year, if he survives, another load of dosh to be spent... what a crazy system and from bitter experience we know where that can lead. I guess the other problem for someone like DC recruiting gradually and being very picky about who he signs is that if the players he signs don’t produce immediately he can look as if he hasn’t recruited well. So far this season his recruits have had an inconsistent time. I really like the players he’s got with Liam S, Joe P, Bola and the keepers looking ok. Obviously Tom N hasn’t scored as many as was expected but I still think he’ll come good and Rollin M and Tom B look good for the future. I think the way DC does things is a great fit for the way Rovers are and the finance we have available. We can’t do what many others do and spend lots of money, we have to do it gradually. Doing it graduallymeans he has to get the few signings he does right and I have presumed that DCs failure to sign wide playing players is because he’s wants to play a narrower game or wants to play with FBs creating the width when he wants to play with width. Blimey, 3 years ago in the Conference if someone had said to me that we would be consolidating in League 1 and some fans were moaning about not getting more exciting signings I would have torn their arm off for it! UTG! I agree with what you say in terms of it being a good recruitment strategy. However, at the end of last season DC did say things like "we can't keep over-achieving" and "we want to get 10 or 11 in". This led to high expectations, followed by disappointment, followed by question marks over the owners commitment. If slowly slowly was the strategy all along, then I think he should have said that.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2017 20:02:30 GMT
I don’t disagree with that garystash. As well as his love of tinkering and of projects I also think DC loves causing a bit of surprise and controversy in interviews and I’ve come to take some of what he says with a pinch (lot) of salt. And I’m pretty sure he’s also said in interviews that he always looks at getting the right “person” into the club, not just the right footballer. He might have said 10 or 11 but I was glad to see him get less but imo some good quality. I guess as with all things time will tell. UTG!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 1, 2017 3:13:08 GMT
I don’t disagree with that garystash. As well as his love of tinkering and of projects I also think DC loves causing a bit of surprise and controversy in interviews and I’ve come to take some of what he says with a pinch (lot) of salt. And I’m pretty sure he’s also said in interviews that he always looks at getting the right “person” into the club, not just the right footballer. He might have said 10 or 11 but I was glad to see him get less but imo some good quality. I guess as with all things time will tell. UTG! I think DC expected to bring in more players during the summer; however, for whatever reason either WAQ did not give him the money, or players turned us down, it didn't happen. I still think we still have enough to stay up.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 1, 2017 7:03:16 GMT
I have a feeling Bury will underachieve. Lee Clark is overrated as a manager. Done well with Huddersfield when he had money but no great shakes since. Bury seem to be flashing their cocks about and I'd much rather the way we are quietly but confidently, going about things. Bumpity bump.
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 1, 2017 7:59:54 GMT
I don’t disagree with that garystash. As well as his love of tinkering and of projects I also think DC loves causing a bit of surprise and controversy in interviews and I’ve come to take some of what he says with a pinch (lot) of salt. And I’m pretty sure he’s also said in interviews that he always looks at getting the right “person” into the club, not just the right footballer. He might have said 10 or 11 but I was glad to see him get less but imo some good quality. I guess as with all things time will tell. UTG! I think DC expected to bring in more players during the summer; however, for whatever reason either WAQ did not give him the money, or players turned us down, it didn't happen. I still think we still have enough to stay up. Some good stuff on this thread with regards to DC and his recruitment police over that adopted by Lee Clark at Bury; they went down the route of recruiting (highly paid ?) journeymen. Something that continuely bit us on the proverbial ar*e for a long time; fans love a big name - it doesn't mean the player cares about the club/fans to put in a shift when the going gets tough! DC will recruit a certain type of player, one who will look you in the eye and show commitment. Admittedly one or two of his signings have fallen a little short on that, but in the main they are the type of man you would like to have your back in a difficult time. The January window will be another crucial time within this recruitment policy, Marcus Stewart seemed to indicate there is money available. Lets see how we get on. UTG
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 14, 2018 22:40:20 GMT
Apparently they have just sacked manager Chris Lucketti. He has only been in the job 2 months!
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Post by pirate on Jan 14, 2018 23:11:22 GMT
Apparently they have just sacked manager Chris Lucketti. He has only been in the job 2 months! Not scored a goal in their last 8 league games!
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