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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 26, 2024 10:07:42 GMT
Thanks for all time and effort compiling everything RG, another hectic season....well done!
Fulham v C Palace 1-2. Blackburn v Coventry 0-2. Cardiff v Middlesboro 2-1. Huddersfield v Brum 1-1. Millwall v Plymouth 1-0. Watford v Sunderland 1-2. Wimbledon v Walsall 2-2. Accrington v Tranmere 1-2. Barrow v Mansfield 0-1. Salford v Harrogate 2-1. Swindon v Morecambe 0-3. Wrexham v Stockport 1-1.
Wot no Gas? ..Good luck all...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 25, 2024 6:36:52 GMT
No threats that I can see as the below will soon become above..
How many underfunded clubs continue to outperform us, let alone the bankrolled outfits..
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 23, 2024 18:10:28 GMT
Did one of the Gas Girls get their knob out?
(Ricky Gervais cracked a very similar joke so don't have a go at me!)...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 23, 2024 17:59:24 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 23, 2024 13:29:58 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 23, 2024 13:28:59 GMT
No need, we are the Pirates. We need not only a new manager and team but the owners to be trueful and get their act together. Wish they were all BRISTOLIONS and not Kuwaites, we cannot wait much longer. Have you got a problem with people from Kuwait ? Not unless they're occupation is a Pirate.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 15:06:38 GMT
But it's not just about akinfenwa himself on his own is it?Many others in and around the stadium might have seen and heard it as a form of abuse, as well as, or opposed to comedy value: much like AG or LTN back in the day and taken huge offence. But where do you go if you take that form of abuse in public but it's not recognised as racist homophobic sexist misogynistic anti Semitic islamaphobic (curiously , not Christian phobic though?)? Like my original post alludes, some forms of abuse appear to be protected, others don't because it's funny or just not taken seriously. As mentioned in an earlier post. I think your sentiment is correct, your examples aren't examples that work. Drop the Akinfenwa and use "Who ate all the pies". Then, yes you can continue with your approach. That particular chant make people feel uncomfortable if they are of a certain body type. We shouldn't have any fans that feel uncomfortable. I think essentially, we are in agreement. Gasify... they're the same type of songs just one is more satirically witty than the other. Nice to come from different angles and agree though. You don't see that too often here.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 15:04:21 GMT
Also on the subject of abusing refs, have you noticed the song 'you bald bar steward' has receded (see what I done there?) from our song vocabulary now our ageing fanbase rings one out from the Thatch End!?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 14:59:10 GMT
What if many found Love Thy Neighbour as 'funny'? It ran for many series. Or, Alf Garnett character....? Is that Bantz!? Nope... because racial abuse is a protected abuse. Fat abuse amongst others isn't, but both can be funny and abusive. Can you see the point I'm making?No, not really. The point I was making is that is Akinfenwe thought it was funny, that is OK. If Akinfenwe thought it was out of order then that is not OK. It is about the person receiving the comment. If they voluntary believe is to be funny, then that's fine. If they are unhappy about the comment, then that is not fine. If a gay person used a gay slur to one of their friends, that is OK. If a heterosexual used that same word, it's not OK. Tim Minchin explains this very well: But it's not just about akinfenwa himself on his own is it? Many others in and around the stadium might have seen and heard it as a form of abuse, as well as, or opposed to comedy value: much like AG or LTN back in the day and taken huge offence. But where do you go if you take that form of abuse in public but it's not recognised as racist homophobic sexist misogynistic anti Semitic islamaphobic (curiously , not Christian phobic though?)? Like my original post alludes, some forms of abuse appear to be protected, others don't because it's funny or just not taken seriously.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 13:16:40 GMT
Overall the league really lacked quality in my opinion, think all promoted sides will really struggle with the jump to Championship Yep we missed a trick this season with our poor timing of injury suspension and transition..
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 11:14:30 GMT
Thanks, g but respectfully disagree... because the thrust of what I'm inferring from your post is: It's ok as it's under a comedic banner. Unfortunately cancel culture negates this. This world generally views abuse abuse, no matter what sentiment behind it. The thrust of what I was saying is how it makes that person feel. If that person finds it funny, it's Bants. If the person doesn't then it's bullying. What if many found Love Thy Neighbour as 'funny'? It ran for many series. Or, Alf Garnett character....? Is that Bantz!? Nope... because racial abuse is a protected abuse. Fat abuse amongst others isn't, but both can be funny and abusive. Can you see the point I'm making?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 8:10:30 GMT
I do wonder which one of us has made the most contributions in the season here?
The golden flip flop goes to ....?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:52:31 GMT
How do we know that Martin wasn’t provoked? I doubt he headbut him for no reason. True. And I agree.... but it doesn't look much like self defence...!! 🤭
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:45:33 GMT
It's true. Who was there and laughed and joined in with akinfenwa his t*ts are offside...? Sounds like a resounding abuse to me. No one batted an eyelid. No protection in form of fat shaming then. Or now. Your sentiment is a good one. Your example is poor. I have always been challenged by my weight. If someone sang "Your t*ts are offside" to me, I would find that funny. If however, they sang "Who ate all the pies..." then that would water me off. In fact when fans sing that around me, I feel uncomfortably. When Steve Evans was called a weeble, I felt uncomfortable. When we sang "I want to be ginger haired too" I thought that was hilarious. However there is an argument for inherent misogyny in that song which makes it a bit 'awkward'. The treatment of Snakey Taylor at Cheltenham was out of order when lets have a party was sung. However hilarious when "Taylor is a wan...." was sung for 5 to 10 mins continuously. Especially the "oooohhh" between the repeats. Thanks, g but respectfully disagree... because the thrust of what I'm inferring from your post is: It's ok as it's under a comedic banner. Unfortunately cancel culture negates this. This world generally views abuse abuse, no matter what sentiment behind it.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:19:11 GMT
If it was abhorrent for Barton to be violent, I'm guessing it's the same for CM?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:16:38 GMT
Been looking at the CM incident. Its a clear case of assault. We dont know the circumstances - there must have been serious provocation. However, if the police get involved we could be looking at more that a 4 game ban. CM was there yesterday with his family, laughing and jokin g with supporters. Maybe he should have stayed away in shame. That's a good post. And raises further points. Is it ok to continue to use a violent employee? Some advocated it 'no' for our previous manager....
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:11:26 GMT
To be fair to o2 , I would have thought that the opposite was true. "Any form of abuse is wrong." Nobody is disputing that, I think. So why raise other examples in this particular incident? Lets be honest, O2 appears to be claiming that some claim greater protection than others It's true. Who was there and laughed and joined in with akinfenwa his t*ts are offside...? Sounds like a resounding abuse to me. No one batted an eyelid. No protection in form of fat shaming then. Or now.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2024 7:09:14 GMT
Is it any more or less bigoted to abuse someone for being larger than average, taller than average, or shorter, perhaps having an extremely short haircut or extremely long hairstyle? Or, for being ginger haired? Or even living in a caravan!? Any form of abuse is wrong, but with some factions of society it feels like they have more protection than others. But, it's still abuse. So let's take it,one form of abuse at a time. There is no need at to categorise it, as one worse than the other. Which you seem to be advocating Unfortunately we can't, or at least that's very difficult to do. In safeguarding, some forms of abuse are more protected than others.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2024 10:42:46 GMT
Is it any more or less bigoted to abuse someone for being larger than average, taller than average, or shorter, perhaps having an extremely short haircut or extremely long hairstyle? Or, for being ginger haired?
Or even living in a caravan!?
Any form of abuse is wrong, but with some factions of society it feels like they have more protection than others.
But, it's still abuse.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2024 10:16:30 GMT
Derby rammed it into us. I was there.
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