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Post by Gastroenteritis on Dec 12, 2017 23:53:43 GMT
Interesting observations, thanks for posting.... One thing I think we need to understand about the English football league pyramid system these days is that compared to the days of old facilities rule.... Oxford at the manor ground, Luton at Kenilworth were competitive in the top flight in division 1 days with crap facilities.... And why.... Because Liverpool, man utd, arsenal, spurs etc all had crap facilities as well.... Sadly we have not seen an improvement in my lifetime (other than ground ownership) and it's hard to accept that the holy grail of premium football is probably further away than ever.... So many clubs have infrastructure and I think these days it's fair to assume that the bottle-neck to get to the premier league starts half way down league 1.... I understand your feelings.... yeah and I’m not saying it’s easy to do but you imo anything less will just be a club that just hemorages money, surely our owners understand this. Maybe they do have a long term plan but when they say this involves the men it fills me with zero hope. The Mems footprint is not big enough to house the revenue streams. A scheme on a new site it definitely required at minimum, I’m not even saying UWE for me that ship has sailed. That bottle neck will be even lower with each passing season. I’m truly gutted by our current circumstances.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Dec 12, 2017 23:27:31 GMT
I’m currently working in Milton Keynes and staying in the Double Tree hotel, for those who don’t know it, it’s situated within the MK Dons football stadium. Every time I go back to my room after work a feeling of envy comes over me. It really is a fantastic stadium fit for the premiership, but it’s not just the stadium that makes me envious. Although I’m not sure about the business particulars with regards to who owns the ground and who gets the generated revenue, I can’t help but be in awe of the amount of revenue streams their are. I briefly counted at least 8 seperate premises incorporated within the stadium, these included but wasn’t limited to bars, gym, hotel, restaurants and conference spaces, and these were only on one side of the stadium. Just think of all the ground rents being generated as revenue for the club, it truly makes me wonder why MK dons are so sh1t. I’m envious of the car park and surrounding area which is home to a brand new eating and drinking area. The stadium is in my opinion truly brilliant yet modest, I would happily see the gas in this “souless bowl”. The words revenue streams and Bristol Rovers don’t mix, I mean what do we actually have? Match day tickets, club shop and hospitality, it’s no wonder we can’t pay players high salary’s or even the minimum wage. We need this type of setup to progress and that why the Mem will never be a viable option. This brings me to the other part of the thread title ‘crossroad’. For me Bristol rovers are at a crossraod, one way will either allow us to progress to a sustainable club, or the other to our eventual extinction. I say this because we are, as much as people hate to admit it massively effected by our friends across the river. I talk in terms of future potential generations of fans. At the moment we are tinpot...yes I said it, but we do offset that by only being one league behind, plus if we had plans to build a new stadium, regardless of our league position we would capture the hearts of Bristol’s youth by having the underdog appeal. If we were in the championship but still at the Mem we would match their level thus also attracting future fans. Even if they got promoted to the prem and we stayed in league 1 but still had the prospect of a new state of the art ground, we would still recruit support. The problem i fear is that they may well get promoted to the prem. This is a problem not because I’m jealous or hate them, it’s because it leaves us in a precarious position where we cannot attract the the fans of the future. Languishing in league one without two pennies to rub together will not appeal to the young, especially when another team In bristol plays agains the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United etc in a big stadium with good facilities. Yes we will always maintain our die hard gas fanbase but this in time will fade as the individuals on the terraces age and pass. Generations truly lost. I genuinely fear for our future. We need investment, new stadium, and most importantly new revenue streams just to even stay in the race let alone win it.
I believe we need to start organising peacefull protests, nothing aggressive, hostile, nasty or offensive just a way of showing how we fear that without proper investment by any ownership that the club will die. We need to stress that evolution will be too little too late. I admit I don’t have the answers to our woes or have 100million to put in to the club. Some you will be just as happy to watch us in the conference, I respect your loyalty but I for one will not.
Did not mean this to be too negative, just wanted to express the urgency of our situation and see If people had an appetite to mobilise the fan base in a peaceful manner and put pressure on our owners.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 19, 2017 12:23:48 GMT
it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want information even if it's false? well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 19, 2017 12:22:50 GMT
it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke. You want posters to post up falsehoods? well in my opinion if it turns out to be false I don't believe it would be because gasincider is trying to mislead or wind us up, it would be because plans change or never materialise. That's not to say it's all made up.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 19, 2017 10:54:52 GMT
Dead right. But I was asked the question. If you don't like it don't read it. it really wateres me of how people jump on your back. Just so you know people do want the info you provide be it true or false. I personally am on the side of thinking there is no smoke without fire. At the moment there is a lot of smoke.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 7, 2017 22:40:47 GMT
was he not the one who blew the lid on the last problems and take over which turned out to be true. So I cannot understand why a lot on here are totally dismissing him. There is definitely some high strangeness going on at our club surely you can't deny that? He knew not of our current owners, only the 'mystery' consortium whom we're still waiting on. Apparently were splitting hairs a little, he knew a takeover was imminent.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Nov 7, 2017 22:17:36 GMT
Full of guff is gasincider. Posts so much negative nonsense and creates bad vibes on here. Probably his own life is sh** and has nothing better to do. Would be quite happy if he just f**ked off altogether. was he not the one who blew the lid on the last problems and take over which turned out to be true. So I cannot understand why a lot on here are totally dismissing him. There is definitely some high strangeness going on at our club surely you can't deny that?
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Oct 17, 2017 0:14:13 GMT
not at all, I live in Wales and see first hand their absolute disdain for anywhere, anyone and anything English. That's a real shame and really does not match my experience after 30 years also living in South Wales did you go through school in wales I've lived in Merthyr since the age of 13. IMO the Welsh have two faces, if you have an English accent they generally don't say derogatory stuff to you or about england around you, now I have a strong Welsh accent and that's where their true colours really show. Even my father in law said to me 'thank god you're not english' when I first met him, imagine the awkward conversation that followed. Iv had conversation after conversation about rugby to randomers which include 'well I hope we beat those dirty English c#nts'. In the end I stopped mentioning my nationality just so it wasn't awkward. I've been to all of the home nations and generally I find the welsh to be the most bigoted towards the English. Scottish rangers fans were a good crack and so were Northern Ireland football fans. Welsh not British is the motto around my parts.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Oct 13, 2017 18:55:56 GMT
It's sport. It's supposed to be fun, entertainment for the masses. It is, by its very design, supposed to be bi-partisan where the whole point is that 2 teams agree to disagree for 90 mins over a sporting event. That doesn't mean you hate the other countries. It's just fun rivalry. If some people had their way football will turn into a bunch of chinless wonders who all give a jolly round of applause every time the opposition score against us!! I'm perfectly capable of separating enjoying a rival team losing a game and respecting and admiring them as a nation. In my opinion the way so many English people want the home nations to do well is patronising. The greatest sporting respect you can give an opposing country is to treat them as a genuine rival. Again, I will support the home nations when they support us. Until then it's a FUN rivalry. You think some of the responses on here are part of a FUN rivalry, 'cos I don't. Still. I'm not going to change anyone's mind on this so I'll leave it there with one parting shot: View Attachment there's a huge difference between supporting club and country.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Oct 13, 2017 18:53:30 GMT
the home nations never wanna see England do well. Sod em, never forget the Welsh team celebrating us getting knocked out by Iceland. Imagine if the England squad did that, it would be all over the media "arrogant English disrespectful to home nations" or "England football team makes a mockery of British unity". The day I wanna see Wales do well will be the day they cheer for us but that will never happen. 'Little Englander' attitudes - no wonder we are so loved and respected in the world. That said, researchers have found that people with low self-esteem are more likely to feel schadenfreude than are people who have high self-esteem. not at all, I live in Wales and see first hand their absolute disdain for anywhere, anyone and anything English.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Oct 10, 2017 23:42:37 GMT
I can play the imperial march on me banjo string.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Oct 10, 2017 23:35:21 GMT
Nasty and spiteful post, would have liked to have seen Wales and even Scotland make the World Cup Finals and I'm sure Locks, Ellis and BB would be proud to represent their country. Training with an international squad is great experience for Locks as well. the home nations never wanna see England do well. Sod em, never forget the Welsh team celebrating us getting knocked out by Iceland. Imagine if the England squad did that, it would be all over the media "arrogant English disrespectful to home nations" or "England football team makes a mockery of British unity". The day I wanna see Wales do well will be the day they cheer for us but that will never happen.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 9, 2017 1:40:19 GMT
Back peddling? I'm pretty certain I've said it's satire all along, again maybe you should read our conversation this time with your head outside your arsehole. As for me saying about my gay or lesbian friends that's was to make you feel more comfortable as you're clearly getting your knickers in a twist. Here we go then here's some more 'homophobic' humour for you...what do you call a lesbian dinosaur? .........a lickalotapuss. If the mods or a significant amount other users feel I'm being 'homophobic' then I will happily ban myself. As for you, supreme leader of the PC brigade I'm sorry I upset you.
homophobic ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪk,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪk/ adjective adjective: homophobic having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 9, 2017 0:22:05 GMT
First of all what was homophobic about my original post? Satirical yes, homophobic no. The 'snowflake' remark although provocative is clearly true as you're getting awfully uptight at the smallest things and not only at me but with other posters. As I consider myself to have an IQ higher than 0 then the idea of meeting up with some loose cannon for a fisticuffs does not interest me. Toodle pip. If you suddenly can't see that "they protested against a grass in favour of carpet" isn't homophobic then you're as thick as you are cowardly. I've no intention of any sort of violence but I had a pretty good hunch that you'd not be prepared to make the offensive 'jokes' you make behind your internet anonymity in the real world. And it turns out I was right you coward. I'm thick??? You don't know the difference between satire and homophobia. I feel that your whole perception of me being homophobic has touched a nerve. No need to worry about me, I have two immediate gay friends and my missus has a lesbian friend who we bother with collectively. Well if there's no violence involved then I'd be more than happy to discuss my satirical humour with you, or alternatively anything gas related. Disclaimer: I will be equipped with pepper spray.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 8, 2017 23:52:24 GMT
ooh you're hard (Ricky Gervais Style). Why would I wanna have a meet with knuckle dragger like you who's clearly got anger issues. Have a little read back at our conversation, maybe your response to my first post. Offering people out on a forum you're absolutely pathetic. Is happy to spout off homophobic 'humour' from behind the safety of his keyboard online but doesn't want to explain why it's so funny offline: "IMAGINE MY SHOCK". You're an absolute coward. And you've got the nerve to call me a snowflake and a melt hahahahaha. First of all what was homophobic about my original post? Satirical yes, homophobic no. The 'snowflake' remark although provocative is clearly true as you're getting awfully uptight at the smallest things and not only at me but with other posters. As I consider myself to have an IQ higher than 0 then the idea of meeting up with some loose cannon for a fisticuffs does not interest me. Toodle pip.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 8, 2017 23:28:52 GMT
Aww sorry snowflake, if I knew a bit of light hearted humour in these slightly drab times was gonna pull the tampon out yer fanny then I would have thought twice. What a melt. Happy to have you explain the humour in your post on Saturday if your tiny bollocks haven't shriveled up by then. Let me know if you're keen and I'll send you my number xx ooh you're hard (Ricky Gervais Style). Why would I wanna have a meet with knuckle dragger like you who's clearly got anger issues. Have a little read back at our conversation, maybe your response to my first post. Offering people out on a forum you're absolutely pathetic.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 8, 2017 23:15:23 GMT
Mad that I have that I have to share a football club with pathetic throwbacks like you, yes bro. Aww sorry snowflake, if I knew a bit of light hearted humour in these slightly drab times was gonna [annoy you] then I would have thought twice. What a melt. [I've edited this coz you're obviously being deliberately, provocatively misogynistic just to show you can be, and it's (notionally) a family forum, etc. I don't like editing people's posts, and if you have a problem with it, then PM me, or complain to another Mod. Thanks. -AF]
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 8, 2017 22:52:27 GMT
well last time we submitted plans to redevelop the mem they protested against a grass in favour of carpet instead. Hurr hurr hurr. Side splittingly funny you parquet prick. haha you mad bro
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 8, 2017 21:34:50 GMT
Just what we need .. the next three years of Gloucester Road protest groups, radicals, lesbians, do gooders, and total pain in the arses.. whining about lighting, car parking, noise and anything else that might earn them attention and headlines. The carousel is being spun yet again .... buckle up everybody and grab a sick bag. What have lesbians got to do with anything you plank? well last time we submitted plans to redevelop the mem they protested against a grass in favour of carpet instead.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Aug 2, 2017 22:27:51 GMT
Bloody hell we have been taken for a ride by this board, I fear the other rumours may be true as well. Plus side, DC is with us and we're still in league one. I feel as if they don't really want to put millions of their own money into the club.. we have had 2 promotions spending not very much and that has made everything look good. been cheap success.. we will see what the Board are all about in next couple weeks and months. it all seemed so promising, unlike some I am happy with our transfer business less a few players of course, paying fees led me to believe things are different. Maybe things will turn out fine but I can't help but think how are we ever going to grow without a new ground. We're looking at 5 years minimum before that happens.
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