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Post by onefindunford on Jan 1, 2024 9:28:32 GMT
My New Year's resolution is to accept with a quiet calm that some people just will always spell the word Lose as Loose. Happy New Year everyone. And Defence as Defense!!!!! And Licence as License.Ban these 'Americanisms' I say. Talking of Americanisms what happened to the new poster BuckNaked? On here for a couple of weeks pretending to be an American Rovers supporter living in NASCAR county. It was obvious at the time that he wasn’t who he was pretending to be (basically lying to fellow supporters). My resolutions are: That everyone only has one account that they keep to. Please don’t lie to other Gasheads. No name dropping. No tittle tattle insider information from the training ground. UTG
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 20, 2023 12:47:43 GMT
Found him extremely frustrating. He had loads of ability but just didn’t appear to have the motivation, wasn’t at all surprised or disappointed when his contract wasn’t renewed. Still that was a long time ago and I’m sure WC will be a great addition to the management team, if he is offered/accepts the job. It’s strange how some players have a different style/attitude when moving into management or coaching. George Graham had a languid, lazy style and was nicknamed Stroller as a player but his management style was ultra disciplined, rigid and workman like!! I agree Eric, the best managers/coaches are the ones that learn from their past mistakes and retaining knowledge (and use it) from previous colleagues/coaches/managers. WC has obviously worked hard as a coach to (hopefully) come to us with such a good reputation. I truly believe that WC could have been a really good player if he’d had put in the hard yards.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 20, 2023 9:38:14 GMT
Ironic he might return as a coach / assistant manager Never rated him as a player here I dunno, he promised much and occasionally delivered some nice Free Kicks as I recall. A highlight in some awful div 4 teams that I have tried to forget. Certainly not the worst player or midfielder of that era. Found him extremely frustrating. He had loads of ability but just didn’t appear to have the motivation, wasn’t at all surprised or disappointed when his contract wasn’t renewed. Still that was a long time ago and I’m sure WC will be a great addition to the management team, if he is offered/accepts the job.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 13, 2023 8:47:20 GMT
If I remember rightly it used to be the case that clubs can claim expenses for an overnight stay etc against the gate receipts if traveling over a certain distance. Regardless, if the the club thinks the competition is a priority then they would be selecting the strongest team. From the FA’s web site regarding FA Cup matches. I do not believe Rovers could claim the expenses for an overnight stay, unless agreed with Crewe, or they had to leave The Quarters before 8:00 am. (i) Where agreement concerning hotel accommodation has been reached, Clubs must confirm the agreement in writing on the Match Arrangement Form. (ii) Where mutual agreement concerning hotel accommodation cannot be reached, and the Visiting Club considers it necessary or desirable to claim hotel expenses, written application must be made to The Association with a copy to the Home Club at least seven days in advance of the first match. The Professional Game Board shall have the power at its absolute discretion whether or not to grant permission. (iii) The grounds for making such an application are that it would be necessary for the Visiting Club to leave its headquarters before 8.00am on the day of the match in order to arrive at the venue for the match no less than 90 minutes prior to the scheduled kick- off, based on reasonable travel time only (determined by reference to the AA Route Planner service) and including a stop of not more than 45 minutes. Expenses, which may be claimed, if actually incurred, shall not exceed £120.00 per person for up to 25 persons in the Qualifying Competition and up to 30 persons in the Competition Proper. (iv) A Club that has been granted hotel expenses by The Association must stay within a 30 mile radius of the ground where the match will be played.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 22:08:53 GMT
For a 19:45 KO I think it is better for them to travel on the day of the game. They either have a light training session at The Quarters in the morning, or travel in the morning and have a light training session early afternoon at a training ground near to Crewe. Fair enough. I disagree and think they’ll be benefitted by less travel on the day of a game. Fair enough it’s healthy to disagree!
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 22:04:27 GMT
Obviously that would be wrong I think we all agree with that. This discussion was about staying overnight before a evening KO. serious question, do you think it’s better for the team to be in a coach on the motorway or already up North on a training ground doing a light session working on shape etc? For a 19:45 KO I think it is better for them to travel on the day of the game. They either have a light training session at The Quarters in the morning, or travel in the morning and have a light training session early afternoon at a training ground near to Crewe.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:56:25 GMT
Derby was a 15:00 KO so I would expect an overnight stay. I can obviously see some benefits but certainly not all, but we are a 3rd Division team trying to watch our expenditure. But they can leave for Derby at 9 and be there for 12? As I’ve said in another post the biggest worry for me is cutting out stuff that will benefit the side Obviously that would be wrong I think we all agree with that. This discussion was about staying overnight before a evening KO.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:51:08 GMT
Again it wasn't a regular thing under DC and Cogs it was for the longer trips. It became a regular thing under JB It was a regular thing. My source is a player that played under both managers. Anything 3 hours or so away they’d be staying. 👍🏻 So under DC and Cogs they stayed overnight if the ground was 3 hours or more away, for an evening KO?
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:48:44 GMT
Correct but that is still arriving at 5 which is nearly 3 hours before kick off. On a Saturday teams turn up 90 minutes before kick off so plenty of time even if they left at 2. Didn't the overnight hotel stays only start after JB came as pretty sure the team travelled to games on the day most of the time before he took over unless it was a long away day. Yes times have changed but surely its not that important to stay over for an evening game. The team stayed away under DC and Cogs as well. They stayed overnight at Derby as well a few weeks ago. Surely people can see a long day travelling isn’t beneficial when they could be working on shape and tactics for the game as a northern clubs training ground. This is basic common sense surely? Derby was a 15:00 KO so I would expect an overnight stay. I can obviously see some benefits but certainly not all, but we are a 3rd Division team trying to watch our expenditure.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:44:04 GMT
I certainly don’t find the overnight stay in Crewe before an evening game being cut as worrying. I think we should be making these cuts. Did we stay overnight before playing away at Reading? Reading is 1.5 hours up the road, gresty road on a good run is 3 There’s a reason all the big clubs do it, Klopp has big issues with 12:30 kick offs due to prep time being affected. You said that they had been doing it for the past 2 years so took it that it was all games. Regarding 12:30 games and 15:00 I understand it 100%, but don’t see a problem with a 19:45 KO.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:39:44 GMT
This 1pm theory also works for Saturday games, you could leave Bristol at 9am for a game at Oxford. DC told Higgs travelling on the day of the game was killing the team in the Conference and Nick listened. They all know more about the game than you Dunny I’m sure that they know more about the game than me. For a Saturday game we should stay overnight, as it’s a much shorter travelling window to KO at 3pm.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:36:34 GMT
It’s a 3 hour bus journey, explaining that seems a waste of time! Like anything in life you leave yourselves plenty of time, so they will probably leave at 1:00pm. It’s not what’s been happening for the last 2 years though! Do you not find ita little worrying they are allegedly making cuts? Ask any manager what they’d prefer and they’ll say an overnight stay the night before the game. There’s a reason all the top clubs do it. I certainly don’t find the overnight stay in Crewe before an evening game being cut as worrying. I think we should be making these cuts. Did we stay overnight before playing away at Reading?
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:32:49 GMT
Guys, we are fans, let’s try and not be sports scientists now! The management don’t understand the decision, all clubs stay over the night before a midweek game who can afford it. And as for this staying in your bed stuff, the big clubs all have their players stay in hotels Friday night now before a home game! Kids coming in at 2am to your bedroom is not good prep for a player! Exactly. I only hear of skint clubs travelling on the day of a game. Worrying that this is allegedly going against the wishes of the management too! Of course we’re a skint club. We play in the 3rd Division and our outgoings are a lot more than our income.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:30:09 GMT
One bad smash up on the M5/M6 and you’ll be arriving very late. Yep, explaining this sort of stuff is a waste of time Jamie Mackie at Oxford had a 2 hour back massage before every game to get on the pitch, he has his spine fused. We wouldn’t make a 4 hour bus journey and start that journey start that evening! It’s a 3 hour bus journey, explaining that seems a waste of time! Like anything in life you leave yourselves plenty of time, so they will probably leave at 1:00pm.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 21:16:30 GMT
A lot of clubs and us, prefer to stay the night before. The players get a lay in, team meeting, lunch time/early afternoon session on team shape on the opposition. A lot of clubs as well pay for an extended afternoon stay so the players can have a mid afternoon sleep rest in their room. It’s a 4 hour bus journey, we can train in Bristol but the players recovery will be 4 hours sat on a bus. They will arrive at 5pm, it’s not the ideal preparation or for any players carrying a knock or say Chris Martin. It's under 3 hours to Crewe on a bus. Exactly, just looked it up 132 miles door to door and mainly motorway. I would say that it is often better for a player to sleep in their own bed and travel up early afternoon, after the morning training session.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 11, 2023 20:39:43 GMT
We were meant to stay over tonight and train up north tomorrow. Why would they stay overnight on a Monday, for a 7:45pm Tuesday kick off with the venue less than 3 hours drive away? Seems a waste of money.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 8, 2023 23:00:12 GMT
I walk along Woodlands Road at least once a week, lovely houses along there. The rich ones give the smallest tips! Back in those days it was the far edge of Posset, before the marina ponces overtook the area ! 😂 Glad to say I’m not a marina ponce, moved to Redcliffe Bay from East Bristol a few years ago.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 8, 2023 21:55:03 GMT
Martin Flook once won the Helpline xmas draw . Think £500 back in 1980's . Think it was drawn in nightclub in city centre. He grabbed prize & said , paraphrasing " that'll help to pay for kids school fees !" As a young lad i did a paper round in Portishead, Flooks house was on my round . A big old Victorian house on woodlands rd , overlooking the Bristol Channel . It was right out on a limb , his driveway was also long and steep. Everyday for a yr i delivered his papers , wearing my Rovers scarf. Never got a tip 🙄😂 Tosser! I walk along Woodlands Road at least once a week, lovely houses along there. The rich ones give the smallest tips!
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 5, 2023 17:26:57 GMT
What's all the fuss. Regarding the "much missed" SW Stand tents only about 15% of supporters have ever sat in them when at full capacity and usually much less! The new SW "temporary" stand will hold 25% of attending supporters until further capacity is attained elsewhere in the Mem. Full licenced capacity is never allowed for football games to allow separation of home/away fans. Thus 25% is not actually true as when at full legal capacity to separate home/away. Thus 75%-85% of home fans could not/would not want to sit in the new stand. Having followed the Gas to over 130 away grounds I have been "forced" mainly to stand on open terraces at the end of the pitch. Rarely have I been allowed to sit pitch side. Probably the worst ground I have been to is Sunderland. You need oxygen to sit in the high level away end stand and can only just see the near goalmouth, the other end is so far away it's guess work who is doing what! The Gas fans out sang and out shouted the Sunderland fans all match possibly because nobody could see what was happening on the pitch the other end. The Mem, nice and cosy at least in my lofty seat in the beautiful East Stand. UTG You've seen Rovers play at over 130 away grounds?? Blimey. That must be close to every stadium we've ever visited. A very good friend of mine has seen Rovers play at 175 away grounds.
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Post by onefindunford on Dec 1, 2023 12:33:07 GMT
I see Taylor had Wayne Carlisle as his assistant at Exeter and Rotherham. I wonder if we'll see Waynerrr return to the gas? Always thought he had a rare bit of quality about him in that poor Graydon side Wayne Carlisle had great ability but so frustrating as he gave little effort. Only seemed to play when he could be bothered. No surprises when he was released at the end of his 2 year contract.
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