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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jan 22, 2018 19:43:39 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2018 20:17:50 GMT
A salary cap can be increased if the directors gift the club the means in which to do so.
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Post by socrates on Jan 22, 2018 20:20:40 GMT
A salary cap can be increased if the directors gift the club the means in which to do so. Shame Hani doesn’t like football isn’t it.
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Post by 84gas on Jan 22, 2018 20:22:14 GMT
Signing on fees also help...another dig at owners from DC imo...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:30:04 GMT
Signing on fees also help...another dig at owners from DC imo... Not at all. A manager doing his job. Good one. His reputation will only be enhanced
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Post by aghast on Jan 22, 2018 20:33:46 GMT
With not very cheap pay on the day, not very cheap season tickets, and top 8 attendances, I don't understand why we are suffering very much from the League 1 salary cap rules.
I am not convinced.
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Post by peterparker on Jan 22, 2018 20:36:12 GMT
A salary cap can be increased if the directors gift the club the means in which to do so. Gift yes, but why should they. Its a business or should be like any other
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:36:19 GMT
With not very cheap pay on the day, not very cheap season tickets, and top 8 attendances, I don't understand why we are suffering very much from the League 1 salary cap rules. I am not convinced. How does a £1M plus loss convince you?
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 22, 2018 20:37:09 GMT
There is ways round it all if they wanted to spend money
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Post by pirate on Jan 22, 2018 20:37:30 GMT
With not very cheap pay on the day, not very cheap season tickets, and top 8 attendances, I don't understand why we are suffering very much from the League 1 salary cap rules. I am not convinced. How does a £1M plus loss convince you? How much do the others lose?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:38:01 GMT
If we get loans then we need to make sure they are good ones and players who can really change things for us. Would love to see a decent few prem youngsters from the young England teams that have been so successful.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:40:11 GMT
With not very cheap pay on the day, not very cheap season tickets, and top 8 attendances, I don't understand why we are suffering very much from the League 1 salary cap rules. I am not convinced. How does a £1M plus loss convince you? clearly that overspending isn’t coming from the pitch because of the salary cap of 60%- it makes you question the whole set up of the club behind the pitch! Nothing’s changed at the mem and the service is still pretty average. Where does it go?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2018 20:41:45 GMT
A salary cap can be increased if the directors gift the club the means in which to do so. Out of interest how much did EW donate during his time as a director? What happens next season, or the season after that, do you seriously expect the owners just to keep on donating £100K's just so DC can add a couple of additional players to the squad. We need a plan to boost long term revenue income not just short term donations.
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Post by pirate on Jan 22, 2018 20:43:56 GMT
If we get loans then we need to make sure they are good ones and players who can really change things for us. Would love to see a decent few prem youngsters from the young England teams that have been so successful. I was hoping we were in for Cameron Brannagan from Liverpool. The England youth defensive midfielder played 9 times for Liverpool's first team in the past and has now joined Oxford on a permanent.
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Post by aghast on Jan 22, 2018 20:50:48 GMT
The only way I can understand it is that there really is a long term plan, after all.
We are well set up for administration, coaching, youth development and stadium redevelopment staff.
Once all those are in place, the club can then actually work on building training facilities and a redeveloped stadium.
Having done that, they can then work on getting us into the Championship through releasing funds to sign Championship type players.
We've seen countless examples of clubs who spent big on stadiums and players without getting the basics right first, and suffered as a result.
I've suddenly become a convert to our owners. If it's not a long term sensible plan, then the alternative of just under-funding us until they sell us off cheaply makes no sense at all as an investment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 21:14:40 GMT
A salary cap can be increased if the directors gift the club the means in which to do so. That's us f**ked then.
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Post by madgas on Jan 22, 2018 21:19:33 GMT
2 points I want to pick up on...
1) We do actually offer one some of the cheapest tickets in this league. (Rightly so, the facilities are close to the worst).
2) The ‘gifting’ is not as straight forward as mentioned. Clubs ruled to break the rules suffer fines and transfer embargoes. Furthermore, ‘a gift’ is never truely a gift- yes, it is written off in the books, and by virtue no payment is due back. But an ‘on-the-pitch-return’ is expected. Throwing money is not necessarily a guarantee to success.
Until we are profitable it is extremely unlikely that such a gift would be forthcoming.
Take a gift of a million. What would that buy you?
DC has quoted that top end players are asking for up to 6k.
That will get you 2 years this player with 375k to buy them. That’s it. The strategy for this club has to longer term, has be about improving turnover and creating a profit. Those calling out for handouts are crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 21:22:21 GMT
How does a £1M plus loss convince you? clearly that overspending isn’t coming from the pitch because of the salary cap of 60%- it makes you question the whole set up of the club behind the pitch! Nothing’s changed at the mem and the service is still pretty average. Where does it go? By all accounts there has been an increase in backroom staff + development team + Clockwork Gorringe. Wages may have increased as per life in league one. IIRC the breakeven figure under the old board was around 9k, at last reckoning it was 15k(!), I guess all the above factors could account for that increase in running costs totalling 15k crowds every week. The problem is with no increased revenue streams on the horizon how is this need for 15k crowds going to be sustainable in the short term?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 21:35:48 GMT
If we get loans then we need to make sure they are good ones and players who can really change things for us. Would love to see a decent few prem youngsters from the young England teams that have been so successful. Clarke-Salter?
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 22, 2018 21:40:36 GMT
2 points I want to pick up on... 1) We do actually offer one some of the cheapest tickets in this league. (Rightly so, the facilities are close to the worst). 2) The ‘gifting’ is not as straight forward as mentioned. Clubs ruled to break the rules suffer fines and transfer embargoes. Furthermore, ‘a gift’ is never truely a gift- yes, it is written off in the books, and by virtue no payment is due back. But an ‘on-the-pitch-return’ is expected. Throwing money is not necessarily a guarantee to success. Until we are profitable it is extremely unlikely that such a gift would be forthcoming. Take a gift of a million. What would that buy you? DC has quoted that top end players are asking for up to 6k. That will get you 2 years this player with 375k to buy them. That’s it. The strategy for this club has to longer term, has be about improving turnover and creating a profit. Those calling out for handouts are crazy. yeah like selling our best players for peanuts,they are really heading in the right direction
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