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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 4, 2018 22:19:14 GMT
Has it actually been proved yet that it was the Russians? Three reasons that prove that it has to have been the Russians. 1. Putin`s barmy, and he`s capable of anything. 2. Er 3. That`s it. [b I appreciate you were joking, but Putin is certainly not barmy. He does have form, has threatened retribution over traitors, has the means and the motive. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 4, 2018 22:39:44 GMT
I can see where your coming from nobbs ,but tis just the way i'm wired i can't get past the lie on the numbers game especially knowing the majority of people world wide just accept it as the truth. you touched on something i included in my reply but at a slightly different tangent, and that is the synagogue protection , is it any wonder that those measures are necessary ,given the way they are treated by the israelis as i said before you would expect the jews to be peaceable towards others, the reality is unfortunately the opposite (before you start  i detest all organised religions, just some more than others). 2 officers guarding synagogues to me is a show as lets face it if someone wanted to attack 2 officers would not make a blind bit of difference ,the synagogue guards is probably more to do with the past than any real threat ,germany is an odd place with people still expected to be sorry for something that happened in the past ,one thing i heard a while back but never realised was taking in refugees part of the german constitution which would explain why more refugees are settling in germany I quite understand, inee, but your ire is misplaced if it is based on whether it is 6m or 4m or whatever figure is current. It is also missing the non jews who died in the camps in vast numbers too. One good reason for the disparity is that accurate records of such high numbers is hard to work through and yes, initial numbers are often taken as read in lieu of any conclusive proof. It is not just the camp numbers either, are there accurate records on the number of Japanese, Koreans, Soviets or Chinese? Or indeed other events such as Vietnamese in the Indo-china and Vietnam wars or Chinese in the Cultural Revolution. What about further back in history with the Slave Trade or how many died by the hand of Caesar (who may or may not have exaggerated to boost his profile in Rome). It isn't the first time or last numbers vary but there should be no mistake that it happened and on an industrial scale. It isn't the fault of those killed that the Nazis didn't keep a definitive list and we shouldn't forget in quibbling over whether it was 'a lot' or 'loads'. As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 4, 2018 22:45:39 GMT
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Stu some good books to read which for some is a real eyeopener for others just confirms that the rich's involvement in a global elite
ibm and the holocaust(feckin hate that word)
coke machine the dirty truth , touches on ww2 and other evil deeds
a look into henry ford and his help before and during the war
Vatican Assassins: “Wounded In The House Of My Friends” dont take this one literally but some parts are familiar,its a slog of a read
another good book to read is ss1 a book about himmler which focuses later on cooperation from the west to supply steel and other goods through Switzerland
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm still working my way through a backlog of books (I'm currently on one about British submarine development) after Christmas and my birthday but I'll keep a eye out.
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Im reading "ratburger" at the moment by david walliams,its funny. What word would you prefer for "the holocaust"? Why do you hate that word? Because holocaust is a word that only existed in one religion, it's a word that is based on outright lies and when bandied about everyone is supposed to shut up and believe or risk a trip to court for denial , i also hate the word as it gives one religion the power to lord it up over others, is there any other religion that has such a word that can be used whenever they are losing an argument, indeed is there any other religion that continually bleats on about and starts name calling when ever some one says anything they don't like( i don't like your god(corbyn) bb but the amount of stick he is getting from jews and others is ridiculous because of something he did or didn't do etc). Can you imagine how people would laugh if he offended say the catholic church and they said he was anti catholic no one would give it a second thought. One thing that really grates on my nerves is the 6 million figure, 6 million jews did not die at the hands of the germans, i know some will say but millions did, yes millions did die, but not 6 million and it really disturbs me that even today people are taught and still believe that figure, wasn't it bad enough so we made up a number ,only problem is if you use large numbers like that most can't imagine something that big, did you also know that Auschwitz constantly amends the number of people killed at the camp on a regular basis, one of the only places that does as new evidence comes to light. Something else that winds me up is the amount of doctored or staged photo's put out by the allies at the end of the war ,wasn't the truth bad enough ,why the need to embellish something of that magnitude. Something i also find interesting is even today people are silenced over some of those pictures, an american came forward and said he set up one of the famous photos of belsen the one with several corpses on an oven slide he stated that he was told to bulldoze those bodies into position at the request of an officer to show the horror etc and was told several times to keep it quite during his lifetime ,now to me when that was done in the name of propaganda ,the yanks were just as guilty if not more so than the bastards who did the original killing ,using corpses as props shows a level of disrespect of the dead unparalleled . Did millions die in camps through slave labour ,starvation ,abuse and murder yes they did and to deny that is a special kind of stupid ,it's just that i have a problem with the made up figures, ffs let the truth out ie real figures also it's time to get the truth out about just who did the killing and abuse in the camps ,it wasn't just the germans ,but for some reason the roles the jewish camp police played in it all is very well hidden. Other stuff well hidden is the fact that not many countries would take on the jews who managed to get out, i forget the name of a ship laden with escaped jews that was turned back by us and the us ,which was then torpedoes, so are these numbers and propaganda pics an attempt by the allies to kinda shed some of the blame from themselves in turning a blind eye, especially driving some from their land and giving it over to others, who in reality you would think had learned enough to be acceptable and peaceable towards others instead of being constantly at war with those who were displaced. One thing i do know is that during our lifetime the truth will never be known, it's one of the reasons i always say read from both side when looking for answers as the truth is somewhere in between it also shows how enemies will supply raw materials to others for money. To bring it back on topic no-one seems to mention putins close links with senior jews in russia and israel (even though more jews were killed by the russians during ww2 than the germans ,and even more seem to deny that the EU is just the 4th Reich by another name which is advancing east. Hope this answers your question, i'm not a nazi and i dont deny what happened i'm just fed up with how lies have become so believeable to the majority Thats simply a mumbling diatribe that amounts to holocaust denial. "the EU is just the 4th reich by another name" really? the comparison is disrespectful to all victims of the world war 2 in fact its beneath contempt as is your comments on the holocaust. |
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Post by inee on Apr 5, 2018 10:17:57 GMT
I can see where your coming from nobbs ,but tis just the way i'm wired i can't get past the lie on the numbers game especially knowing the majority of people world wide just accept it as the truth. you touched on something i included in my reply but at a slightly different tangent, and that is the synagogue protection , is it any wonder that those measures are necessary ,given the way they are treated by the israelis as i said before you would expect the jews to be peaceable towards others, the reality is unfortunately the opposite (before you start i detest all organised religions, just some more than others). 2 officers guarding synagogues to me is a show as lets face it if someone wanted to attack 2 officers would not make a blind bit of difference ,the synagogue guards is probably more to do with the past than any real threat ,germany is an odd place with people still expected to be sorry for something that happened in the past ,one thing i heard a while back but never realised was taking in refugees part of the german constitution which would explain why more refugees are settling in germany I quite understand, inee, but your ire is misplaced if it is based on whether it is 6m or 4m or whatever figure is current. It is also missing the non jews who died in the camps in vast numbers too. One good reason for the disparity is that accurate records of such high numbers is hard to work through and yes, initial numbers are often taken as read in lieu of any conclusive proof. It is not just the camp numbers either, are there accurate records on the number of Japanese, Koreans, Soviets or Chinese? Or indeed other events such as Vietnamese in the Indo-china and Vietnam wars or Chinese in the Cultural Revolution. What about further back in history with the Slave Trade or how many died by the hand of Caesar (who may or may not have exaggerated to boost his profile in Rome). It isn't the first time or last numbers vary but there should be no mistake that it happened and on an industrial scale. It isn't the fault of those killed that the Nazis didn't keep a definitive list and we shouldn't forget in quibbling over whether it was 'a lot' or 'loads'. As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. My point was stu people still believe that number and accept it as fact ,why is Auschwitz the only place that changes the number who died when new evidence is released ,why is it never mentioned that the jewish camp guards were just as if not more brutal to the prisoners ,why is it not mentioned more the role we played in it ,the whole world failed the jews at that and other points in history but it's easier to put out false numbers as if it somehow makes it easier to deny the part the allies played in it. Again it's the constant reference to 6 million when ever someone questions the jews on their behaviour these days ,look at what they are doing in palestine ,or look at the peaceful way israel has been to it's neighbours since we turfed out the people living there and created israel. You touched another point in that it wasn't just jews who died i know that ,you know that however it's never mentioned or if it is it's just slipped in ,it's always 6 million jews. Yes i know of the other mass killings however the others dont use a number to beat everyone around the head with ,alternatively how many of the other mass killings had many posed photos to hide our and others involvement. For many it's easy to say 6 million jews died at the hands of the germans ,just so they don't have to look at the worlds part in the killings Don't get me started on the japs i read an interesting book years back which told it from the jap side ,can't for the life of me remember the title was written by i think an american with interviews from soldiers and officers from the japanese army and using records from all areas. They stated the reason that prisoners were ill treated was that according to their traditions if someone was captured alive or surrendered they were beneath everything and didn't deserve to live so gave a different take on the atrocities they created ,it doesn't forgive them in any way but reveals why they willingly did what they did ,without any display of remorse. For those who dint realise the brutality of the japs look into the nanking massacre just before ww2, again it seems that history focuses on the brutality of the japs rather than asking again why did we not remove our citizens who were in that area. Stu as for record keeping the germans kept more accurate records and numbers than anyone else there were 2 main reasons for that firstly himmler was a barrack room lawyer and decided that everything would be recorded as accurately as possible as if it was law no one could be blamed,this was evident with the soldiers saying we just carried out orders ,secondly ibm had a massive part to play in not just the efficiency of the gestapo ,but also rounding up jews and others to be sent to the camps(ibm and the holocaust explains the lengths ibm went to to perfect the mass record storage systems which later made them the world leaders in that technology) |
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Post by inee on Apr 5, 2018 10:43:18 GMT
Because holocaust is a word that only existed in one religion, it's a word that is based on outright lies and when bandied about everyone is supposed to shut up and believe or risk a trip to court for denial , i also hate the word as it gives one religion the power to lord it up over others, is there any other religion that has such a word that can be used whenever they are losing an argument, indeed is there any other religion that continually bleats on about and starts name calling when ever some one says anything they don't like( i don't like your god(corbyn) bb but the amount of stick he is getting from jews and others is ridiculous because of something he did or didn't do etc). Can you imagine how people would laugh if he offended say the catholic church and they said he was anti catholic no one would give it a second thought. One thing that really grates on my nerves is the 6 million figure, 6 million jews did not die at the hands of the germans, i know some will say but millions did, yes millions did die, but not 6 million and it really disturbs me that even today people are taught and still believe that figure, wasn't it bad enough so we made up a number ,only problem is if you use large numbers like that most can't imagine something that big, did you also know that Auschwitz constantly amends the number of people killed at the camp on a regular basis, one of the only places that does as new evidence comes to light. Something else that winds me up is the amount of doctored or staged photo's put out by the allies at the end of the war ,wasn't the truth bad enough ,why the need to embellish something of that magnitude. Something i also find interesting is even today people are silenced over some of those pictures, an american came forward and said he set up one of the famous photos of belsen the one with several corpses on an oven slide he stated that he was told to bulldoze those bodies into position at the request of an officer to show the horror etc and was told several times to keep it quite during his lifetime ,now to me when that was done in the name of propaganda ,the yanks were just as guilty if not more so than the bastards who did the original killing ,using corpses as props shows a level of disrespect of the dead unparalleled . Did millions die in camps through slave labour ,starvation ,abuse and murder yes they did and to deny that is a special kind of stupid ,it's just that i have a problem with the made up figures, ffs let the truth out ie real figures also it's time to get the truth out about just who did the killing and abuse in the camps ,it wasn't just the germans ,but for some reason the roles the jewish camp police played in it all is very well hidden. Other stuff well hidden is the fact that not many countries would take on the jews who managed to get out, i forget the name of a ship laden with escaped jews that was turned back by us and the us ,which was then torpedoes, so are these numbers and propaganda pics an attempt by the allies to kinda shed some of the blame from themselves in turning a blind eye, especially driving some from their land and giving it over to others, who in reality you would think had learned enough to be acceptable and peaceable towards others instead of being constantly at war with those who were displaced. One thing i do know is that during our lifetime the truth will never be known, it's one of the reasons i always say read from both side when looking for answers as the truth is somewhere in between it also shows how enemies will supply raw materials to others for money. To bring it back on topic no-one seems to mention putins close links with senior jews in russia and israel (even though more jews were killed by the russians during ww2 than the germans ,and even more seem to deny that the EU is just the 4th Reich by another name which is advancing east. Hope this answers your question, i'm not a nazi and i dont deny what happened i'm just fed up with how lies have become so believeable to the majority Thats simply a mumbling diatribe that amounts to holocaust denial. "the EU is just the 4th reich by another name" really? the comparison is disrespectful to all victims of the world war 2 in fact its beneath contempt as is your comments on the holocaust. Only you could come to the conclusion that i'm a denier when i have said many time it happened, can you read or is does it not fit into what you have believed all your life, please show me where anything i have said is not true look into hitlers plans for europe ,free movement of labour, goods and cash ,one europe with central control and law making from one location , have you never wondered why bosch, bmw, volkswagen mercedes and others are dominant in their fields, have you every wondered how german industry recovered or how so called bankrupt companies had so much cash allowing them to fund the rebuilding of german industry, so quickly after the war ended ,look into the history of those who founded the eec and eu. However as your mind seems firmly closed i expect you wont ,the only thing disrespectful to our heroes who fought for this country is the power the germans now have ,even more disrespectful is people inability to research stuff and blindly follow the herd believing everything they were taught in school without question |
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Post by aghast on Apr 5, 2018 21:04:32 GMT
I quite understand, inee, but your ire is misplaced if it is based on whether it is 6m or 4m or whatever figure is current. It is also missing the non jews who died in the camps in vast numbers too. One good reason for the disparity is that accurate records of such high numbers is hard to work through and yes, initial numbers are often taken as read in lieu of any conclusive proof. ...... It is not just the camp numbers either, are there accurate records on the number of Japanese, Koreans, Soviets or Chinese? Or indeed other events such as Vietnamese in the Indo-china and Vietnam wars or Chinese in the Cultural Revolution. What about further back in history with the Slave Trade or how many died by the hand of Caesar (who may or may not have exaggerated to boost his profile in Rome). It isn't the first time or last numbers vary but there should be no mistake that it happened and on an industrial scale. It isn't the fault of those killed that the Nazis didn't keep a definitive list and we shouldn't forget in quibbling over whether it was 'a lot' or 'loads'. As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. My point was stu people still believe that number and accept it as fact ,why is Auschwitz the only place that changes the number who died when new evidence is released ,why is it never mentioned that the jewish camp guards were just as if not more brutal to the prisoners ,why is it not mentioned more the role we played in it ,the whole world failed the jews at that and other points in history but it's easier to put out false numbers as if it somehow makes it easier to deny the part the allies played in it. Again it's the constant reference to 6 million when ever someone questions the jews on their behaviour these days ,look at what they are doing in palestine ,or look at the peaceful way israel has been to it's neighbours since we turfed out the people living there and created israel. You touched another point in that it wasn't just jews who died i know that ,you know that however it's never mentioned or if it is it's just slipped in ,it's always 6 million jews. Yes i know of the other mass killings however the others dont use a number to beat everyone around the head with ,alternatively how many of the other mass killings had many posed photos to hide our and others involvement. For many it's easy to say 6 million jews died at the hands of the germans ,just so they don't have to look at the worlds part in the killings Don't get me started on the japs i read an interesting book years back which told it from the jap side ,can't for the life of me remember the title was written by i think an american with interviews from soldiers and officers from the japanese army and using records from all areas. They stated the reason that prisoners were ill treated was that according to their traditions if someone was captured alive or surrendered they were beneath everything and didn't deserve to live so gave a different take on the atrocities they created ,it doesn't forgive them in any way but reveals why they willingly did what they did ,without any display of remorse. For those who dint realise the brutality of the japs look into the nanking massacre just before ww2, again it seems that history focuses on the brutality of the japs rather than asking again why did we not remove our citizens who were in that area. Stu as for record keeping the germans kept more accurate records and numbers than anyone else there were 2 main reasons for that firstly himmler was a barrack room lawyer and decided that everything would be recorded as accurately as possible as if it was law no one could be blamed,this was evident with the soldiers saying we just carried out orders ,secondly ibm had a massive part to play in not just the efficiency of the gestapo ,but also rounding up jews and others to be sent to the camps(ibm and the holocaust explains the lengths ibm went to to perfect the mass record storage systems which later made them the world leaders in that technology) I don't understand the point you're making. You say you hate the word Holocaust, yet agree there was a massacre of innocent Jewish civilians. The Jewish population was decimated as a result. In percentage terms, it was the biggest massacre of members of a religious group in the modern world. Many others were also slaughtered. No one disputes that. I have visited a number of holocaust denial websites, because I am interested in the subject, and I all I will say about those is that that I hope you're not using them as your factual source. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 21:47:24 GMT
Thats simply a mumbling diatribe that amounts to holocaust denial. "the EU is just the 4th reich by another name" really? the comparison is disrespectful to all victims of the world war 2 in fact its beneath contempt as is your comments on the holocaust. Only you could come to the conclusion that i'm a denier when i have said many time it happened, can you read or is does it not fit into what you have believed all your life, please show me where anything i have said is not true look into hitlers plans for europe ,free movement of labour, goods and cash ,one europe with central control and law making from one location , have you never wondered why bosch, bmw, volkswagen mercedes and others are dominant in their fields, have you every wondered how german industry recovered or how so called bankrupt companies had so much cash allowing them to fund the rebuilding of german industry, so quickly after the war ended ,look into the history of those who founded the eec and eu. However as your mind seems firmly closed i expect you wont ,the only thing disrespectful to our heroes who fought for this country is the power the germans now have ,even more disrespectful is people inability to research stuff and blindly follow the herd believing everything they were taught in school without question Your just pompously assuming the history that you choose to read is correct and your also making the mistake that everyone else is stupidly believing everything they were told at school. Plenty of well read people including to a degree[well read] myself dont agree with your views. Your the one with the closed mind in truth. |
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Post by inee on Apr 5, 2018 22:22:56 GMT
My point was stu people still believe that number and accept it as fact ,why is Auschwitz the only place that changes the number who died when new evidence is released ,why is it never mentioned that the jewish camp guards were just as if not more brutal to the prisoners ,why is it not mentioned more the role we played in it ,the whole world failed the jews at that and other points in history but it's easier to put out false numbers as if it somehow makes it easier to deny the part the allies played in it. Again it's the constant reference to 6 million when ever someone questions the jews on their behaviour these days ,look at what they are doing in palestine ,or look at the peaceful way israel has been to it's neighbours since we turfed out the people living there and created israel. You touched another point in that it wasn't just jews who died i know that ,you know that however it's never mentioned or if it is it's just slipped in ,it's always 6 million jews. Yes i know of the other mass killings however the others dont use a number to beat everyone around the head with ,alternatively how many of the other mass killings had many posed photos to hide our and others involvement. For many it's easy to say 6 million jews died at the hands of the germans ,just so they don't have to look at the worlds part in the killings Don't get me started on the japs i read an interesting book years back which told it from the jap side ,can't for the life of me remember the title was written by i think an american with interviews from soldiers and officers from the japanese army and using records from all areas. They stated the reason that prisoners were ill treated was that according to their traditions if someone was captured alive or surrendered they were beneath everything and didn't deserve to live so gave a different take on the atrocities they created ,it doesn't forgive them in any way but reveals why they willingly did what they did ,without any display of remorse. For those who dint realise the brutality of the japs look into the nanking massacre just before ww2, again it seems that history focuses on the brutality of the japs rather than asking again why did we not remove our citizens who were in that area. Stu as for record keeping the germans kept more accurate records and numbers than anyone else there were 2 main reasons for that firstly himmler was a barrack room lawyer and decided that everything would be recorded as accurately as possible as if it was law no one could be blamed,this was evident with the soldiers saying we just carried out orders ,secondly ibm had a massive part to play in not just the efficiency of the gestapo ,but also rounding up jews and others to be sent to the camps(ibm and the holocaust explains the lengths ibm went to to perfect the mass record storage systems which later made them the world leaders in that technology) I don't understand the point you're making. You say you hate the word Holocaust, yet agree there was a massacre of innocent Jewish civilians.The Jewish population was decimated as a result. In percentage terms, it was the biggest massacre of members of a religious group in the modern world. Many others were also slaughtered. No one disputes that. I have visited a number of holocaust denial websites, because I am interested in the subject, and I all I will say about those is that that I hope you're not using them as your factual source. Because if you say holocaust it centres on on group of humans and tends to ignore the fact that many others were also killed, you will be hard pressed to get many people to include others like gays, physically disabled ,mentally disabled ,political prisoners ,undesirables ,russian pow's ,germans held in retaliation for relative speaking out etc and many others . As i have said several times the whole world aided the germans in the massacre of jews, not once have i denied it happened ,it's just i have a problem with the word holocaust and the number 6 million, that even to this day is being used falsely. i have also said before as more documents are declassified and released these are never taken into account , denial sites rarely read those sites ,do you really think i would use an ex goalkeeper who believes in reptilian shapeshifters as a source ,nah even im not that dimp |
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Post by inee on Apr 5, 2018 22:48:07 GMT
Only you could come to the conclusion that i'm a denier when i have said many time it happened, can you read or is does it not fit into what you have believed all your life, please show me where anything i have said is not true look into hitlers plans for europe ,free movement of labour, goods and cash ,one europe with central control and law making from one location , have you never wondered why bosch, bmw, volkswagen mercedes and others are dominant in their fields, have you every wondered how german industry recovered or how so called bankrupt companies had so much cash allowing them to fund the rebuilding of german industry, so quickly after the war ended ,look into the history of those who founded the eec and eu. However as your mind seems firmly closed i expect you wont ,the only thing disrespectful to our heroes who fought for this country is the power the germans now have ,even more disrespectful is people inability to research stuff and blindly follow the herd believing everything they were taught in school without question Your just pompously assuming the history that you choose to read is correct and your also making the mistake that everyone else is stupidly believing everything they were told at school. Plenty of well read people including to a degree[well read] myself dont agree with your views. Your the one with the closed mind in truth. Nah my mind is firmly open and if i get something wrong i'm the first person to hold my hands up ,it's up to you if you disagree with me , i have many times in various threads said to yourself if i'm wrong show me where and i will change my view as yet you haven't. look into ibm and their links with germany all the way through the war ,theres a good argument that if ibm hadn't supplied the technology for record keeping that the murder of people in ghetto's and camps could not have been achieved nor would they have been able to keep records of almost the entire population. Again as i asked in my first reply to you ,show me where i have said anything that is a lie, show me where i have denied the mass killing of jews and others by the germans ,show me how i'm wrong about the allies not doing much if anything. As for the eu look into the founding fathers several linked to the nsdap ,look into it's initial funding ,how did those companies and others so quickly recover from the war even when most of their designs were shared amongst the allies. The simple fact is those german companies had a reserve stash to re-establish themselves if the war was lost ,those companies were headed by party members dont forget henry fords help to german industry from before the war , |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 5, 2018 22:53:06 GMT
Meanwhile, back on topic it seems things are getting heated at the UN.
Thankfully the daughter is on the mend, just hope her dad does too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 23:12:18 GMT
Meanwhile, back on topic it seems things are getting heated at the UN. Thankfully the daughter is on the mend, just hope her dad does too. Isnt this a thread about the "fourth reich"? ie the EU? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 5, 2018 23:19:49 GMT
Meanwhile, back on topic it seems things are getting heated at the UN. Thankfully the daughter is on the mend, just hope her dad does too. Isnt this a thread about the "fourth reich"? ie the EU? Inee and I have previously debated this before and we aren't going to change each other's minds on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 23:22:32 GMT
Isnt this a thread about the "fourth reich"? ie the EU? Inee and I have previously debated this before and we aren't going to change each other's minds on it. You cant debate with bigots its a waste of time. |
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Post by inee on Apr 6, 2018 12:38:48 GMT
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Post by inee on Apr 6, 2018 12:47:52 GMT
Inee and I have previously debated this before and we aren't going to change each other's minds on it. You cant debate with bigots its a waste of time. No bigotry in my post ,i'm probably on of the few who is willing to debate any issue on here and if shown proof that what i say is wrong will change my opinions ,can you say the same bb ,yet again please show me what part of what i typed is wrong ,it's a question i find myself asking you repeatedly , however every time i do you either go silent or try to get me to stop questioning things by using labelling me as amongst others a bigot, holocaust denier ,even far right in another thread a while back, i'm open to debate and change it's you sir who seems to be reluctant to debate. maybe you'd prefer if i supported west ham and called myself alf  |
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Post by Marshy on Apr 6, 2018 12:55:35 GMT
You cant debate with bigots its a waste of time. No bigotry in my post ,i'm probably on of the few who is willing to debate any issue on here and if shown proof that what i say is wrong will change my opinions ,can you say the same bb ,yet again please show me what part of what i typed is wrong ,it's a question i find myself asking you repeatedly , however every time i do you either go silent or try to get me to stop questioning things by using labelling me as amongst others a bigot, holocaust denier ,even far right in another thread a while back, i'm open to debate and change it's you sir who seems to be reluctant to debate. maybe you'd prefer if i supported west ham and called myself alf Shut up, silly moo! |
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Post by baggins on Apr 6, 2018 13:04:52 GMT
You cant debate with bigots its a waste of time. No bigotry in my post ,i'm probably on of the few who is willing to debate any issue on here and if shown proof that what i say is wrong will change my opinions ,can you say the same bb ,yet again please show me what part of what i typed is wrong ,it's a question i find myself asking you repeatedly , however every time i do you either go silent or try to get me to stop questioning things by using labelling me as amongst others a bigot, holocaust denier ,even far right in another thread a while back, i'm open to debate and change it's you sir who seems to be reluctant to debate. maybe you'd prefer if i supported west ham and called myself alf Funnily enough, in real life, Warren Mitchel supported Tottenham. Kind of ironic as we're discussing the mass murder of the Jews. |
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Post by inee on Apr 6, 2018 13:40:37 GMT
No bigotry in my post ,i'm probably on of the few who is willing to debate any issue on here and if shown proof that what i say is wrong will change my opinions ,can you say the same bb ,yet again please show me what part of what i typed is wrong ,it's a question i find myself asking you repeatedly , however every time i do you either go silent or try to get me to stop questioning things by using labelling me as amongst others a bigot, holocaust denier ,even far right in another thread a while back, i'm open to debate and change it's you sir who seems to be reluctant to debate. maybe you'd prefer if i supported west ham and called myself alf Funnily enough, in real life, Warren Mitchel supported Tottenham. Kind of ironic as we're discussing the mass murder of the Jews. Indeed |
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Post by aghast on Apr 6, 2018 20:51:16 GMT
You cant debate with bigots its a waste of time. No bigotry in my post ,i'm probably on of the few who is willing to debate any issue on here and if shown proof that what i say is wrong will change my opinions ,can you say the same bb ,yet again please show me what part of what i typed is wrong ,it's a question i find myself asking you repeatedly , however every time i do you either go silent or try to get me to stop questioning things by using labelling me as amongst others a bigot, holocaust denier ,even far right in another thread a while back, i'm open to debate and change it's you sir who seems to be reluctant to debate. maybe you'd prefer if i supported west ham and called myself alf You are the world's first and only anti-left, pro-Maggie, pro-benefits, anti-immigrant, pro-anarchy, anti-police, pro-freedom, anti-EU and anti-censorship person. I don't understand or agree with anything you say, but I congratulate you for being unique and independent of what the rest of us think of as normal society. |
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i detest all organised religions, just some more than others).
