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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2018 18:05:48 GMT
Surprised nobody has commented before.
I'm not sure which is more concerning, the fact it happened or that the one suspect has been so brazen knowing there is little we can do about it.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 12, 2018 19:08:49 GMT
Surprised nobody has commented before. I'm not sure which is more concerning, the fact it happened or that the one suspect has been so brazen knowing there is little we can do about it. I’m obviously missing something here so I’m going to ask, what’s happened? |
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Post by axegas on Mar 12, 2018 19:31:02 GMT
Surprised nobody has commented before. I'm not sure which is more concerning, the fact it happened or that the one suspect has been so brazen knowing there is little we can do about it. I’m obviously missing something here so I’m going to ask, what’s happened? I presume you live under a rock?  |
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Post by Marshy on Mar 12, 2018 19:52:18 GMT
I thought the thread was about Salisbury City going bust or something, not those bloody dirty Russian bastards! |
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Post by axegas on Mar 12, 2018 19:56:32 GMT
I thought the thread was about Salisbury City going bust or something, not those bloody dirty Russian bastards! No, luckily the club we get half of our players from survives. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2018 19:57:28 GMT
I thought the thread was about Salisbury City going bust or something, not those bloody dirty Russian bastards! Sorry, thought it was implicit being General Chat. Title amended now. |
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Post by Marshy on Mar 12, 2018 20:01:19 GMT
I thought the thread was about Salisbury City going bust or something, not those bloody dirty Russian bastards! Sorry, thought it was implicit being General Chat. Title amended now. Don’t worry Stu, it was me just being dull! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 20:20:34 GMT
Sorry, thought it was implicit being General Chat. Title amended now. Nothings changed while I've been away then  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 20:31:43 GMT
If the Russians want to go round bumping off their own people, then that's fine by me to be honest.
However, it's the way it is done that is causing concern. Last time it was Polonium. Something that only a State could supply. The use of Polonium was a clear message. The Russians were brazenly saying, "it's us, and there is nothing you will ever do to stop us!". Now, it's a Nerve Agent.
Both methods are highly toxic and could cause casualties amongst innocent people, as in the case of the Police Officer this time.
Once again, by the use of this particular NA, something only the Russian State could supply, they Russians are openly saying, "it's us and there is nothing you can do about it!".
I think it's time the British Government did something remarkable. Break off diplomatic relations with Russian, kick out all Embassy staff, freeze all Russian government assets held in the UK, and deny visas to any Russians.
Next time, a lot of innocent people could be caught up in this internal Russian conflict, and many could die. The first job of ANY British Government is protection of the Realm. It's time a British Government were held to account on this.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 12, 2018 21:01:23 GMT
If the Russians want to go round bumping off their own people, then that's fine by me to be honest. However, it's the way it is done that is causing concern. Last time it was Polonium. Something that only a State could supply. The use of Polonium was a clear message. The Russians were brazenly saying, "it's us, and there is nothing you will ever do to stop us!". Now, it's a Nerve Agent. Both methods are highly toxic and could cause casualties a****st innocent people, as in the case of the Police Officer this time. Once again, by the use of this particular NA, something only the Russian State could supply, they Russians are openly saying, "it's us and there is nothing you can do about it!". I think it's time the British Government did something remarkable. Break off diplomatic relations with Russian, kick out all Embassy staff, freeze all Russian government assets held in the UK, and deny visas to any Russians. Next time, a lot of innocent people could be caught up in this internal Russian conflict, and many could die. The first job of ANY British Government is protection of the Realm. It's time a British Government were held to account on this. Totally agree but May is to weak to do anything, must be one of the most lack lustre PMs we've had in years. Anyway more importantly good to see you back Nobby |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:15:14 GMT
If the Russians want to go round bumping off their own people, then that's fine by me to be honest. However, it's the way it is done that is causing concern. Last time it was Polonium. Something that only a State could supply. The use of Polonium was a clear message. The Russians were brazenly saying, "it's us, and there is nothing you will ever do to stop us!". Now, it's a Nerve Agent. Both methods are highly toxic and could cause casualties a****st innocent people, as in the case of the Police Officer this time. Once again, by the use of this particular NA, something only the Russian State could supply, they Russians are openly saying, "it's us and there is nothing you can do about it!". I think it's time the British Government did something remarkable. Break off diplomatic relations with Russian, kick out all Embassy staff, freeze all Russian government assets held in the UK, and deny visas to any Russians. Next time, a lot of innocent people could be caught up in this internal Russian conflict, and many could die. The first job of ANY British Government is protection of the Realm. It's time a British Government were held to account on this. Totally agree but May is to weak to do anything, must be one of the most lack lustre PMs we've had in years. Anyway more importantly good to see you back Nobby Thank you Trevor, good to be back. Yes, she is a weak PM, but fer chrissakes, look at the Opposition ! It doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it ! The NA probably entered the UK via a 'Diplomatic Bag'. The NA mentioned is banned by the UN. |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 12, 2018 21:26:04 GMT
Totally agree but May is to weak to do anything, must be one of the most lack lustre PMs we've had in years. Anyway more importantly good to see you back Nobby Thank you Trevor, good to be back. Yes, she is a weak PM, but fer chrissakes, look at the Opposition ! It doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it ! The NA probably entered the UK via a 'Diplomatic Bag'. The NA mentioned is banned by the UN. Yep said to my better half that the only way it could have got in safely was in the Dip. Bag. Unfortunately the Opposition is part led by a Chancellor who is more of a Marxist than Putin who is an out an out Dictator ala Stalin. May is a ditherer and there is in the background a number of significant Russian donors to the Tory party which may muddy the waters. I fear for our Country and Europe when we have such weak leaders and the Russian Bear sharpening it's claws!! As an aside the names Clive but I live in Trevor. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:31:28 GMT
Thank you Trevor, good to be back. Yes, she is a weak PM, but fer chrissakes, look at the Opposition ! It doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it ! The NA probably entered the UK via a 'Diplomatic Bag'. The NA mentioned is banned by the UN. Yep said to my better half that the only way it could have got in safely was in the Dip. Bag. Unfortunately the Opposition is part led by a Chancellor who is more of a Marxist than Putin who is an out an out Dictator ala Stalin. May is a ditherer and there is in the background a number of significant Russian donors to the Tory party which may muddy the waters. I fear for our Country and Europe when we have such weak leaders and the Russian Bear sharpening it's claws!! As an aside the names Clive but I live in Trevor. My apologies Dave  Seriously, where is Trevor? I've never heard of it! |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 12, 2018 21:35:54 GMT
Yep said to my better half that the only way it could have got in safely was in the Dip. Bag. Unfortunately the Opposition is part led by a Chancellor who is more of a Marxist than Putin who is an out an out Dictator ala Stalin. May is a ditherer and there is in the background a number of significant Russian donors to the Tory party which may muddy the waters. I fear for our Country and Europe when we have such weak leaders and the Russian Bear sharpening it's claws!! As an aside the names Clive but I live in Trevor. My apologies Dave Seriously, where is Trevor? I've never heard of it! Haha no problem. Trevor is in North Wales near Llangollen, it's Welsh name is Trefor but unfortunately over the years it's morphed to Trevor which sounds like a place in Essex!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:41:01 GMT
My apologies Dave Seriously, where is Trevor? I've never heard of it! Haha no problem. Trevor is in North Wales near Llangollen, it's Welsh name is Trefor but unfortunately over the years it's morphed to Trevor which sounds like a place in Essex!! Ooo, across the river eh.....there be Druids there ! |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 12, 2018 21:43:52 GMT
Haha no problem. Trevor is in North Wales near Llangollen, it's Welsh name is Trefor but unfortunately over the years it's morphed to Trevor which sounds like a place in Essex!! Ooo, across the river eh.....there be Druids there ! There's certainly plenty of longhaired Bohemian looking folk around here!! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2018 22:16:40 GMT
There are two separate security reviews going on at the moment. I suspect an increase in the defence and cyber security budgets will be forthcoming.
In terms of options, we are limited. Hopefully we can get allies on board for some further sanctions, maybe expel certain Embassy staff and restrict visas, plus seize assets in London.
May looked very serious today and her language was as close to the diplomatic niceties as she could, short of saying it was an act of war.
Can't say I would like to go to the World Cup, though.
Things could get quite serious if we are not careful.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2018 23:33:37 GMT
Just seen the bit of the statement with JC responding. Think he may have misjudged the mood. Valid questions perhaps, but not at this time.
Watch Emily Thornbury jockeying for position over the next 12 months or so. Between her and Yvette Cooper.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 13, 2018 7:40:48 GMT
Don’t worry Stu, it was me just being dull! Nothings changed while I've been away then Thanks Nobby. Good to have you back, you old tart! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 18:54:49 GMT
"Dear Russia,
In future if you want to poison someone in the UK and get away with it, pay a child grooming gang from Rotherham or Telford to do it for you. That way the media won’t report on it, and it’ll take 20 years before the authorities will be interested in it."
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Seriously, where is Trevor? I've never heard of it!